Alternative to MS Virtual PC?

Nebben

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Are there any alternatives to Microsoft's Virtual PC? I had used a trial version of Virtual PC that has expired. I want to use it basically just to mess around with different Linux installations as a learning tool.

But I'm not about to shell out cash for something... :)

I'm sure there are other programs out there, but can't find much from web searches. Anyone?

 

Czar

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virtual pc doesnt even work with anything else but microsoft os's

vmware, try that, much better than virtual pc, but more expensive ( do have 30 day trial )
 

Codewiz

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Virtual PC works fine with Linux. It is just "unsupported" in the current version. Their new version is going to officially support linux.

However, my experiences show that VMWare is a better choice for linux installs.
 

Smilin

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Originally posted by: Czar
virtual pc doesnt even work with anything else but microsoft os's

vmware, try that, much better than virtual pc, but more expensive ( do have 30 day trial )

That is false. Why would you deliberately make a statement that you either:
1. know is a lie
2. something you know nothing of and pass it off as fact?

Please spawn some integrity, educate yourself, or simply STFU.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: Czar
virtual pc doesnt even work with anything else but microsoft os's

vmware, try that, much better than virtual pc, but more expensive ( do have 30 day trial )

That is false. Why would you deliberately make a statement that you either:
1. know is a lie
2. something you know nothing of and pass it off as fact?

Please spawn some integrity, educate yourself, or simply STFU.

how about growing some manners before you mingle with other people
 

Drakkon

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: Czar
virtual pc doesnt even work with anything else but microsoft os's

vmware, try that, much better than virtual pc, but more expensive ( do have 30 day trial )

That is false. Why would you deliberately make a statement that you either:
1. know is a lie
2. something you know nothing of and pass it off as fact?

Please spawn some integrity, educate yourself, or simply STFU.

how about growing some manners before you mingle with other people

I gotta go with smilin on this one...but just cause u posted something that is blatently false doesn't mean by saying your wrong he doesn't have manners :confused:
I have a VirtualPC installed with 10 different OS's only 5 of which are windows based (98/ME/2000/Server 2003/3.11)...4 different distros of *nix (redhat, knoppix, ubuntu, freebsd) and then a little OS/2...so yeah I don't get wtf czar is spewing but it is FALSE, virtual PC so long as you take the time to configure and install things properly will work for most anything that will on a regular pc

 

Smilin

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Originally posted by: Czar

how about growing some manners before you mingle with other people

I feel no obligation to show manners nor respect for someone who is either stupid or a liar.

Had you merely said something that demonstrated ignorance such as "I'm not sure if non-MS OS's will run on VPC". I would have been happy to give a polite response. Instead you passed on misinformation as a fact and I called you on it. Suck it up and deal with it.


Back on topic:
Dude, I would shell out the bucks for a copy of VPC. VMWare has some added features but I've never actually found a use for them. The price on VMWare puts it squarely into the "Work needs to buy me a copy" bracket, whereas VPC is affordable for an individual. I used to support VPC and got a good look at it's stability. There were a few serial port related issues leftover from the connectix code that have been fixed in SP1 and other than that it's a bug free product (afaik). The only remaining problem I've ever seen with it: The GUI response in a 2003 guest OS is poor. The core of the server runs fine, but the GUI / start menu run like crap for some reason. You're looking at Linux distros so this wouldn't be a big deal for you.

As for something free, I seem to remember that a version of VMWare came with some Linux distros. If I remember right it had a timebomb or some other demo-related restriction but I'm not sure exactly what. Ping Nothingman or bsobel, they might be able to point you in the right direction.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: Czar

how about growing some manners before you mingle with other people

I feel no obligation to show manners nor respect for someone who is either stupid or a liar.

Had you merely said something that demonstrated ignorance such as "I'm not sure if non-MS OS's will run on VPC". I would have been happy to give a polite response. Instead you passed on misinformation as a fact and I called you on it. Suck it up and deal with it.

wow, that they let people like that out, here is a :cookie:
 

Smilin

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: Czar

how about growing some manners before you mingle with other people

I feel no obligation to show manners nor respect for someone who is either stupid or a liar.

Had you merely said something that demonstrated ignorance such as "I'm not sure if non-MS OS's will run on VPC". I would have been happy to give a polite response. Instead you passed on misinformation as a fact and I called you on it. Suck it up and deal with it.

wow, that they let people like that out, here is a :cookie:

Thanks for the :cookie: man. Sorry your butt stings!

:beer: :D
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Smilin
Originally posted by: Czar

how about growing some manners before you mingle with other people

I feel no obligation to show manners nor respect for someone who is either stupid or a liar.

Had you merely said something that demonstrated ignorance such as "I'm not sure if non-MS OS's will run on VPC". I would have been happy to give a polite response. Instead you passed on misinformation as a fact and I called you on it. Suck it up and deal with it.

wow, that they let people like that out, here is a :cookie:

Thanks for the :cookie: man. Sorry your butt stings!

:beer: :D

ah, trying to do manners, well, at least you are trying :beer: and :cookie: for everyone :p
 

ActuaryTm

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Originally posted by: Czar
virtual pc doesnt even work with anything else but microsoft os's

vmware, try that, much better than virtual pc, but more expensive ( do have 30 day trial )
Have to agree the above statement is highly inaccurate.

In addition, both products (VPC and VMWare) have their merits. Both are priced relatively the same I believe, as well.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: ActuaryTm
Originally posted by: Czar
virtual pc doesnt even work with anything else but microsoft os's

vmware, try that, much better than virtual pc, but more expensive ( do have 30 day trial )
Have to agree the above statement is highly inaccurate.

In addition, both products (VPC and VMWare) have their merits. Both are priced relatively the same I believe, as well.

no problem with that :)
wording was wrong, and my bad, should have said "supported"
 

Nothinman

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Hmmm. At the latest count there are more than 800 OSs and their variants (most of them Linux) working with MS-VPC.

The fact that most of them are Linux makes it irrelevant, if you cut out the dupes you'd probably have less than a hundred.
 

Drakkon

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
Hmmm. At the latest count there are more than 800 OSs and their variants (most of them Linux) working with MS-VPC.

The fact that most of them are Linux makes it irrelevant, if you cut out the dupes you'd probably have less than a hundred.
I think more than anything it was just to prove how wrong Czar was ;)
 

Nothinman

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That's all well and good, I just think it's pretty stupid to compile a list of 700 Linux distributions that work when they're all probably 90% the same software.
 

statik213

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Originally posted by: Nothinman
That's all well and good, I just think it's pretty stupid to compile a list of 700 Linux distributions that work when they're all probably 90% the same software.

heh heh, but the remaining 10% could easily break the support :p
 

Nothinman

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heh heh, but the remaining 10% could easily break the support

Not really, the kernel is only thing that VPC really has any interaction with (minus X, but if an X driver exists for one it's probably in the others too) so unless it's a distro that includes some off the wall patches it should work just like the others.