Also quitting a job, giving short notice

Cerpin Taxt

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My plan is to put in my notice next week, on payday (the 15th). The new job I'm starting requires me to move out of state (CA to WA), and my first day is 11/27/06.

Consequently, I'm not giving my employer much notice at all -- about 2-3 days before I'm outta there. It's not something I wanted to do, but I've decided that I must. Here's the backstory:

I submitted my expense report at the end of October for 2 months worth of expenses. On Nov 1, I received my salary check and exactly half of my total expense check. They're breaking up the expenses into 2 pay cycles to sorta "cook the books" in an innocuous way. I will receive the 2nd half of my expenses on Nov 15th.

I know several people who have worked for my company before, and they each reported to me a great deal of difficulty recovering their final expense reimbursements when they left the company. One had to hold some inventory "for ransom" until they paid him. One never got his at all, and basically got stiffed on a couple grand. He might have been able to fight for it, but like him I simply don't want to hassle with it.

Originally, I had planned to give notice on the 7th of November, allowing for a proper 2 weeks' notice. However when I didn't receive my full expense compensation on the 1st, I realized that if I were to submit my notice before being reimbursed in full, there was a good chance I'd never see that money -- at least not without having to litigate it out of them. We're talking about just under $2K at stake here.

In order to protect myself, I decided to postpone my notice until the 15th when I get paid, to ensure that I do, in fact, get paid. At that point, though, I will only have 2-3 days before I must be on the road relocating myself.

I am most certainly not looking forward to delivering this news to them. It will terribly inconvenience some of my co-workers who have nothing to do with the reasons WHY I decided to leave on short notice. It has been honestly tearing me up inside all week.

Do you think I've chosen the best course of action for myself? I am an at-will employee, so I am not required to provide any certain amount of notice. I just feel bad because I didn't WANT it to have to be like this.

I do not plan to bring up any of this in detail with anyone in my company. The reason I'm officially supplying to them is that the new opportunity arose suddenly and it requires me to move immediately. I don't feel the need to level accusations of untrustworthiness against them on my way out.

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FoBoT

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i concur

good luck

where in WA are you moving? do you have a scuba suit? (pineapple express/flooding preperation)
 

Mermaidman

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Seems reasonable to protect yourself. Do your best to ease the transition for your coworkers without giving away your plan?
 

D1gger

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I agree, under these conditions the short notice is the best way to go. Don't expect to ever be able use this company as a reference though.
 

BobDaMenkey

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Originally posted by: D1gger
I agree, under these conditions the short notice is the best way to go. Don't expect to ever be able use this company as a reference though.

I couldn't have said it better.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: FoBoT
i concur

good luck

where in WA are you moving? do you have a scuba suit? (pineapple express/flooding preperation)
Thanks. I'm moving to the greater Seattle area (Federal Way). Moving in with my sister, which should actually be really nice.


Originally posted by: Mermaidman
Seems reasonable to protect yourself. Do your best to ease the transition for your coworkers without giving away your plan?
Yeah, that's what I've been trying to do. It's not easy though. One of my best friends in the company is likely going to bear the brunt of having to drop everything and drive down (from Silicon Valley to Los Angeles) to pick-up my inventory. I feel bad for him.


Originally posted by: D1gger
I agree, under these conditions the short notice is the best way to go. Don't expect to ever be able use this company as a reference though.
I don't expect a reference, and in all honesty I don't expect the company to be around by the time I would need any references in the future.
 

Koing

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Good luck.

Thats very shady of your company to do that to past employees.

Koing
 

BooGiMaN

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protect yourself first....apologize to your coworkers after you give short notice..im sure they will realize why you did that and then move on with your new life
 

TravisT

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I think if you have a legitimate reason for giving a short notice it is fine. But i've had 2 co-workers simply just stop showing up. I think that is a terrible way to end employment.
 

OutHouse

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what is the inventory that the other people held as ransome to get paid? what does this company do?
 

ScottFern

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If a company is operating in such a shady way I would not feel bad leaving with 2 day notice. F*ck them.
 

Lithium381

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i'd have done the same thing, let us know how it turns out. when i left i gave 3 weeks ntoice cause i knew some of the other managers had vacation planned, so to let them take it without disrupting anything, i did 3 weeks.......oh well, my new job pays better.
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: Citrix
what is the inventory that the other people held as ransome to get paid? what does this company do?
Without being too specific, I sell medical/biological laboratory equipment. The others were sales reps like me, and the one that held equipment did so with one "system" that wasn't anything "top of the line."
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: TravisT
I think if you have a legitimate reason for giving a short notice it is fine. But i've had 2 co-workers simply just stop showing up. I think that is a terrible way to end employment.
I still plan to deliver a letter of resignation and all that. I'm not just going to drop off the face of the planet. :)
 

chambersc

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You've decided the correct way to handle this. In the end, it's all about your ass that you need to cover. If you company has history with shafting the employees that are on the out, than you're justified with such a late notice.
 

kranky

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Sounds like they are intentionally trying to screw people who are leaving, because they know it's going to be a huge fight to get their money. I once worked for a company where the president was a completely unethical, lying psycho. It's exactly the type of thing he would have done. He did plenty worse.

I don't think you have any choice but to do what you are planning. Only thing I would add is to consider whether they might stop payment on the check once you drop the news on them. Might want to get the money in-hand first. Maybe your place isn't that unethical, but the guy I used to work for sure was.
 

dxkj

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100% back you on this one :)

When companies do BS like that, they are opening themselves up to situations just like this one.

 

randay

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what job? how much do you get paid? how do you rack up 4k in expenses(monthly?)?
 

Cerpin Taxt

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Originally posted by: kranky

Sounds like they are intentionally trying to screw people who are leaving, because they know it's going to be a huge fight to get their money. I once worked for a company where the president was a completely unethical, lying psycho. It's exactly the type of thing he would have done. He did plenty worse.

I don't think you have any choice but to do what you are planning. Only thing I would add is to consider whether they might stop payment on the check once you drop the news on them. Might want to get the money in-hand first. Maybe your place isn't that unethical, but the guy I used to work for sure was.
Direct deposit FTW! :)

Originally posted by: randay

what job? how much do you get paid? how do you rack up 4k in expenses(monthly?)?
I rack up about 1400 to 1700 per month in expenses, but I am a field sales rep that works exclusively out of my house. I get reimbursed for my rent on my storage unit, my cell phone, home phone line, parking, office supplies, and mileage on my car. Recall that the expense report I recently submitted was for 2 months, so it was around 2900.