ALright what do the newer generation cards equal to in the older geneneration

tvdang7

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Ok there are so many cards now and its hard for users to keep up on where the performance is comparing to older generations cards.

im just making stuff up .please help contribute and ill update.

all this is roughly figures . im not say it 100% equals that card.


Top end
x1900xt(x) = out there on its own Vs 7800 gtx 512 = 7900 gtx
x1800 xt = out there on its own Vs 7900 gt=7800 gtx
x1800 xl (aiw)=out there on its own vs 7800 gt


Mid
x1800 gto = im guessing x850xt? vs 7600 gt = im guessing 6800 ultra?
x1600 pro/xt = im guessing x800 varies vs 7600 gs =guessing 6600gt 6800 (gs)varies

Low

x1300 pro = x600 pro/xt? vs 7300 gs = between 6200-6600?

 

Munky

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Do you mean how they perform compared to older card, the price, the model they replaced, or what?
 

PingSpike

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How they perform...and I've wanted a chart like this myself. All settings equal that can be, features turned of if they got them.
 

tvdang7

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Originally posted by: munky
Do you mean how they perform compared to older card, the price, the model they replaced, or what?



how they perform.

like to a unknowing person they might think the 7300 gs is a superior card just becuz its numbers are higher than the 6800 ultra.

and stuff like that.
 

TanisHalfElven

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nah nothig compares to x1900 cuz of the speed AND THE features. HDR+AA ftw.
x1600pro does not compete with the x800 variant (the lowest of which is x800gt which beat the 6600gt by about 10 fps in most tests) and the x1600pro does not even compete with the 6600gt. the x1600xt is a different story though.

i belive i read here that x850xt pe is as fast as a 7800gt stock not 7600gt.

x1300 is just wrong. its too overpriced for its performance.
 

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Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
nah nothig compares to x1900 cuz of the speed AND THE features. HDR+AA ftw.
x1600pro does not compete with the x800 variant (the lowest of which is x800gt which beat the 6600gt by about 10 fps in most tests) and the x1600pro does not even compete with the 6600gt. the x1600xt is a different story though.

i belive i read here that x850xt pe is as fast as a 7800gt stock not 7600gt.

x1300 is just wrong. its too overpriced for its performance.


x850xt is slower than 7600gt which is slower than 7800gt.
 

JPB

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Originally posted by: stelleg151
Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
nah nothig compares to x1900 cuz of the speed AND THE features. HDR+AA ftw.
x1600pro does not compete with the x800 variant (the lowest of which is x800gt which beat the 6600gt by about 10 fps in most tests) and the x1600pro does not even compete with the 6600gt. the x1600xt is a different story though.

i belive i read here that x850xt pe is as fast as a 7800gt stock not 7600gt.

x1300 is just wrong. its too overpriced for its performance.


x850xt is slower than 7600gt which is slower than 7800gt.
Where are you getting your info...?

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=55&card2=385

Higher clocks does not make it faster..
 

Extelleron

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IN PERFORMANCE (disregarding features):

X1600XT = X800 PRO => 6800 vanilla
X1600 PRO= X700XT = 6600GT
X1300 PRO = X700 = 6600 vanilla

 

evolucion8

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Is quite incredible seeing people underestimating the last generation of cards. The raw power bump from the R300 to R420 or from NV35 to NV40 is unique, since then, it hasn't been the same. The X850XT PE usually compared to the 7800GT, the Radeon looses the 50% of benchmarks, ties the 30% and wins the 20%. And the margin changes when the games are using FSAA, the advantage of the 7800GT over the X850XT PE decreases some more.
 

Golgatha

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Originally posted by: evolucion8
Is quite incredible seeing people underestimating the last generation of cards. The raw power bump from the R300 to R420 or from NV35 to NV40 is unique, since then, it hasn't been the same. The X850XT PE usually compared to the 7800GT, the Radeon looses the 50% of benchmarks, ties the 30% and wins the 20%. And the margin changes when the games are using FSAA, the advantage of the 7800GT over the X850XT PE decreases some more.

QFT. The 9800XT to X800XT was a phenomenal jump especially. Literally twice the power in one generation, although it was pretty much the same architexture doubled (8pipe to 16pipe).
 

LW07

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Originally posted by: tvdang7
Ok there are so many cards now and its hard for users to keep up on where the performance is comparing to older generations cards.

im just making stuff up .please help contribute and ill update.

all this is roughly figures . im not say it 100% equals that card.


Top end
x1900xt(x) = out there on its own Vs 7800 gtx 512 = 7900 gtx
x1800 xt = out there on its own Vs 7900 gt=7800 gtx
x1800 xl (aiw)=out there on its own vs 7800 gt


Mid
x1800 gto = im guessing x850xt? vs 7600 gt = im guessing 6800 ultra?
x1600 pro/xt = im guessing x800 varies vs 7600 gs =guessing 6600gt 6800 (gs)varies

Low

x1300 pro = x600 pro/xt? vs 7300 gs = between 6200-6600?

Here's how the cards compare to the older generation cards:

The X1900XT(X)s are comparable to a Geforce 7900GTX, or 2 7800GTs in SLI.
The X1800XT is comparable to a Geforce 7900GT.
The X1800XL is comparable to a Geforce 7800GT.
The X1600XT would most likely be between a Geforce 6800 and a 6800GT.
The X1600pro is comparable to the Geforce 6600GT.
The X1300pro is right between a Geforce 6600 and 6600GT.
The X1300 would probably be between the 6600 and 6200(non-turbo cache 6200, that is).

The Geforce 7800GTX 512MB would be between an X1900XT and X1800XT.
The Geforce 7800GTX 256MB would be comparable to2 Geforce 6800Ultras in SLI.
The Geforce 7800GT would be comparable to 2 Geforce 6800GTs in SLI.
The Geforce 7800GS(AGP only) would be comparable to an overclocked 6800Ultra or X850XT PE.
The Geforce 7600GT would be about the same as the 7800GS.
The Geforce 7600GS would be comparable to an overclocked 6600GT.
The Geforce 7300GS would be comparable to an overclocked 6200 turbocache version.

I think this is pretty close to how they compare to the older generation parts.
 
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So, out of curiosity, how does my old 9700 stack up? Looking at some of the benchmarks at Futuremark ORB, I've been amazed to find that my 9700 is actually a worse performer than even the X1300. Is this just because of the tests that are used in 3dmark05/06? Or is my video card just really that bad nowadays?
 

LW07

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Your 9700(assuming you're talking about your laptop video card) actually has about the power of a desktop Radeon 9600 series, which is equivelant to a 6200. The X1300, like I said, is between a 6200 and 6600. That's why your 9700 is performing worst than a X1300.
 
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Well, I actually meant my (deceased ;_; ) desktop with a Radeon 9700, but.... Wow. I had no idea I was so behind the times. I guess it really is time for me to upgrade.

So how exactly do the newer cards do so well even with lower clock speeds and lower amount of pipelines? Just out of curiosity.
 

coldpower27

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Originally posted by: Praxis1452
pipelines don't mean very much... well it depends on the architecture.

Pipelines do mean something... just like MHZ, you have to hold factors constant, or else it becomes only a part of the equation.