Alright - let's talk about my 1967 Mustang...

[jmolayal]

Pics below. She's got a 289 that I've decided to set aside. As far as we've been able to tell, she's a numbers matching car, so I'm going to keep the stock motor the way it is, and drop in a new 302. I'm looking to essentially drop in a crate engine, and have been leaning towards this:

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/BluePrint-302-Ford-Hot-Rod-Crate-Engine-w-Front-Sump-Pan,43358.html

Any thoughts on this mtoor? Price seems decent for for a 302, but maybe I am way off. will add a new water pump to this setup too. Already got a new radiator. New header/exhaust will be done too.

Welcome any and all thoughts. Thanks!

 

[AMCRambler]

Thoughts? I like it! Looks like a nice clean survivor. New to you our have you had it awhile? I'm interested in the story behind the car.

302 crate motor sounds good place to start. That transmission going to bolt up or are you going to have to get a tranny too? Thinking carbureted or FI?

 

[Sluggo]

I had always thought Ford's actual VIN system didn't include the serial number of the engine. So while it may be the original motor, the numbers don't tie everything together as some GM and Mopar products do.

Regardless, still a nice car.

Don't fall into the trap that a 302 needs some huge 750cfm carb, it just gives it a crapload of gas it can't effectively use. A 302 can do quite nicely with a good 450-500cfm carb.

 

[phucheneh]

500cfm is a bit small. 600cfm would be fine. Bigger doesn't really hurt, since he's going to want a vacuum secondary carb, anyway. It would be nice for the motor to suck the secondaries all the way open as the power peaks, but it won't run bad if it doesn't.

That crate motor seems like a lot for what you get. But I look at everything from the stand of building it myself...I can't say I'd trust anyone else to build an engine for me. But I'd probably take a mass-produced crate engine if I had to pick something. Local shops, even those that do large quantities of rebuilds (i.e. exchanges, not 'to order' builds) have some pretty sketchy quality.

But for costs, I would be looking at something like $500 to acquire a 302 in some kind of running condition, about another thousand in parts and machine shop costs, and I think I'd have something that would smoke the basic 300hp crate engine. For a motor only less common/cheap to build than an SBC, I think 3k into a carbed 302/351 should pretty much be shit-your-pants fast.

 

[Vic Vega]

390

 

[jmolayal]

Thoughts? I like it! Looks like a nice clean survivor. New to you our have you had it awhile? I'm interested in the story behind the car.

302 crate motor sounds good place to start. That transmission going to bolt up or are you going to have to get a tranny too? Thinking carbureted or FI?

I've actually owned her since 2007. She was in California all her life before then. One owner prior to me. She's been garaged since I bought her. Her original color was Gold, then she was red, and now she is this blue color. I got the 289 running again, but never quite the way I wanted to. Now I've decided to breathe new life into the whole project.

I already bought an Edelbrock intake and 500cfm carb for the car. Planning on transferring those to the new motor.

I'll be gutting the wiring and going with a new harness. Exhaust will be new, and we'll change out the shocks and leaf springs as well. The power steering needs some work (not sure if just the cylinder or what). While we're tearing her apart, we'll do a new fuel tank, fuel pump. Along the way we'll be swapping out radiator, water pump, and alternator.Finally, we'll add "Vintage Air" Air Conditioning, and a new set of tires to finish the package.

Fun times ahead. Stay tuned fellas.

 

[jmolayal]

500cfm is a bit small. 600cfm would be fine. Bigger doesn't really hurt, since he's going to want a vacuum secondary carb, anyway. It would be nice for the motor to suck the secondaries all the way open as the power peaks, but it won't run bad if it doesn't.

That crate motor seems like a lot for what you get. But I look at everything from the stand of building it myself...I can't say I'd trust anyone else to build an engine for me. But I'd probably take a mass-produced crate engine if I had to pick something. Local shops, even those that do large quantities of rebuilds (i.e. exchanges, not 'to order' builds) have some pretty sketchy quality.

But for costs, I would be looking at something like $500 to acquire a 302 in some kind of running condition, about another thousand in parts and machine shop costs, and I think I'd have something that would smoke the basic 300hp crate engine. For a motor only less common/cheap to build than an SBC, I think 3k into a carbed 302/351 should pretty much be shit-your-pants fast.

Thanks for this. If I knew enough to rebuild a motor on my own, I'd go this route. To be PERFECTLY honest, I already started down this path. I have a 302 from an early 90s Mustang in the garage, waiting to be taken to the shop and rebuilt. My problem is finding a shop I like and trust. It seems to me that buying a crate motor is just.. well.. easier...

At the end of the day my goal is to have a nice, reliable, fun to drive car. I don't want to "shit my pants" when I gun her, but at the same time, I wouldn't mind having the neighbors bring the little ones inside when they hear that v8 crank up... :-D

 

[Zenmervolt]

390

I have an irrational love of the FE 390, but it's really not the way to go for inexpensive power. Either the 351 or the 427 are better choices. The 390 is rarer and not as widely supported by the aftermarket.

ZV

 

[homercles337]

My first car was a '68. That was a great car. Completely rebuilt it, then started on the interior/paint when it was stolen.