Alot of drama at HillaryClintonForums

cKGunslinger

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Yes, while I was not "banned", per se, the mod finally responded to my emails and told me new members were no longer allowed to post. That is one narrow-minded, delusional site.
 

classy

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Originally posted by: Barack Obama
I was reading a post there and apparently the site owner tried to broaded the topics for discussion (I guess he/she saw the writing on the wall about Obama) and many members left to a new forum - http://www.hillaryclintonforum.../forumdisplay.php?f=84

Anyone up to date on this drama?


I think its okay to try and fool people, but that site is nothing more than an Obama bashing forum. No way those people represent anything Hillary Clinton believes. And posting this thread your just trying to start a flame war.
 

JJChicken

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Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
I was reading a post there and apparently the site owner tried to broaded the topics for discussion (I guess he/she saw the writing on the wall about Obama) and many members left to a new forum - http://www.hillaryclintonforum.../forumdisplay.php?f=84

Anyone up to date on this drama?


I think its okay to try and fool people, but that site is nothing more than an Obama bashing forum. No way those people represent anything Hillary Clinton believes. And posting this thread your just trying to start a flame war.

My intentions are to find out what the new site most of the members are going to so I can start reading that :laugh: Anyone know?
 

rockyct

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Originally posted by: Barack Obama
Originally posted by: classy
Originally posted by: Barack Obama
I was reading a post there and apparently the site owner tried to broaded the topics for discussion (I guess he/she saw the writing on the wall about Obama) and many members left to a new forum - http://www.hillaryclintonforum.../forumdisplay.php?f=84

Anyone up to date on this drama?


I think its okay to try and fool people, but that site is nothing more than an Obama bashing forum. No way those people represent anything Hillary Clinton believes. And posting this thread your just trying to start a flame war.

My intentions are to find out what the new site most of the members are going to so I can start reading that :laugh: Anyone know?

At this point, they might as well keep it an anti-Obama circle jerk. Making it "bi-partisan" would only drive away the rabid anti-Obama crowd, which is 95% of that site.
 

cubby1223

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All internet forums are lame for actual discussion. Why should anyone expect hillaryclintonforums to be any different?
 

microbial

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Well, at least the content guidelines are similar to AT PN

CONTENT GUIDELINES: This Forum is a Discrimination-Free Zone (No Sexism, No Racism, No Homophobia, No Ethnocentrism, No Ageism)

As with the images, please do not submit content or use language which is in any way:

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Any posts which contain such references will always be removed. And if they haven't been removed it's because we haven't seen them! You can help with the moderation of the forum by informing mods/admin of any content/words which you think "cross the line" - send PMs!

Sexism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexism
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Sexism is a belief or attitude that one gender or sex is inferior to or less valuable than the other and can also refer to a hatred or distrust towards either sex as a whole (see also misogyny and misandry), or creating stereotypes of masculinity for men or femininity for women.[1] It is also called male and female chauvinism. Sexism can refer also to any and all systemic differentiations based on the gender of a person, not based on their individual merits.
Racism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism
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Racism, by its simplest definition, is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race. People with racist beliefs might hate certain groups of people according to their racial groups. In the case of institutional racism, certain racial groups may be denied rights or benefits, or get preferential treatment. Racial discrimination typically points out taxonomic differences between different groups of people, even though anybody can be racialised, independently of their somatic differences. According to the United Nations conventions, there is no distinction between the term racial discrimination and ethnic discrimination.

Religious Intolerance:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_intolerance
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Religious intolerance is either intolerance motivated by one's own religious beliefs or intolerance against another's religious beliefs or practices. It manifests both at a cultural level, but may also be a formal part of the dogma of particular religious groups.

Homophobia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia
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Homophobia (from Greek homós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuals.[1][2][3] Some definitions lack the "irrational" component.[4][5] Homophobic is the adjective form of this term used to describe the qualities of these characteristics, while homophobe is the noun form given as a title to individuals labeled with homophobic characteristics.

Heterosexism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heterosexism
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Heterosexism is a term that applies to attitudes, bias, and discrimination in favor of opposite-sex sexuality and relationships. It can include the presumption that everyone is heterosexual or that opposite-sex attractions and relationships are the norm and therefore superior. People of any sexual orientation can hold such attitudes. As a predisposition toward heterosexuals and heterosexuality, heterosexism has been described as being "encoded into and characteristic of the major social, cultural, and economic institutions of our society."[1]

Ethnocentrism:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnocentrism

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Ethnocentrism is the tendency to look at the world primarily from the perspective of one's own culture. Ethnocentrism often entails the belief that one's own race or ethnic group is the most important and/or that some or all aspects of its culture are superior to those of other groups. Within this ideology, individuals will judge other groups in relation to their own particular ethnic group or culture, especially with concern to language, behaviour, customs, and religion. These ethnic distinctions and sub-divisions serve to define each ethnicity's unique cultural identity.[1]

Xenophobia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia

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Xenophobia is a fear or contempt of that which is foreign or unknown, especially of strangers or foreign people.[1] It comes from the Greek words ????? (xenos), meaning "foreigner," "stranger," and f?ß?? (phobos), meaning "fear." The term is typically used to describe a fear or dislike of foreigners or of people significantly different from oneself.
 

Lemon law

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The Obama Hillary primary generated a lot of passion and as we can see, not all of the passion have not cooled, nor are all the wounds healed.

Worse yet, Hillary could not even get the VP nod, something some Hillary supporters are still miffed about.

The real underlying question is, what will be the future of Hillary Clinton in the Obama administration?

As it is, Hillary is only junior Senator from New York, and would have to discredit a riding high Chuck Schumer to have any real New York national clout, Hillary has too little Senate Seniority to even talk about
any Senate leadership, so Hillary has few Senate options. Maybe Hillary is angling for an appointment in the Obama administration, a cabinet position or maybe supreme court. Or Hillary can hang in the Senate
and hope Obama will not run in 2012. As it is, Hillary did pay her dues and campaigned for Obama, so she is still in democratic good graces.

But if Obama can soon define what the Hillary role should be and it trips Hillary's trigger, it may finally shut up the zanies at HillaryClintonforums.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
All internet forums are lame for actual discussion. Why should anyone expect hillaryclintonforums to be any different?
I disagree. I've actually become quite informed via P&N, as surprising (or sad) that sounds. There are a lot of smart people here who read a lot, so hearing from them can only expand one's knowledge horizon.

 

Lemon law

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: cubby1223
All internet forums are lame for actual discussion. Why should anyone expect hillaryclintonforums to be any different?
I disagree. I've actually become quite informed via P&N, as surprising (or sad) that sounds. There are a lot of smart people here who read a lot, so hearing from them can only expand one's knowledge horizon.
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While I certainly do not disagree with Skoorb's comment in any way, anyone who thinks passion and emotion does not often trump actual facts, ignores a good part of politics and by extension political power.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: cubby1223
All internet forums are lame for actual discussion. Why should anyone expect hillaryclintonforums to be any different?

agreed, the only good that I find this place offers is highlighting stories that I otherwise may have missed, saves me the time of scanning alot of different news outlets...

But in terms of discussion and what not, these forums are a joke...no one changes their mind based off of these discussions....ever, it is just a sounding board so people can put up their own partisan rhetoric and either have others get behind them and give a reach around or throw it back in their face.
 

sammyunltd

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Hillary said on CNN after the last debate that she did not want to be in Obama's cabinet. She'd rather stay Senator.