Almost Tire Time, anyone move from a Goodyear F1 GS-D3 to something else?

[alkemyst]

There are more tires in my past but none were really worth mentioning except perhaps the Gatorback line I was replacing about 3-4 times a year on my 88 Mustang GT back in 1990 or so.

I love this F1 GS so far esp. when my area is getting afternoon downpours throughout the summer months.

Running a 235/40 right now on my 98 240SX SE. My original AVS ES100's lasted all of 9500 miles and even then were extremely noisy from about 5000 miles....enough that I thought a wheel bearing was killed (oddly enough they lasted almost 25k miles on my Saturn in 205/50R16, still were noisy at the end)....the Goodyears have lasted 12k miles so far on harder mileage and the fronts right now could probably pull another 3-5k easy.

Looking for someone that's gone F1 GS-D3 to a Michelin Pilot or Yoko ADVAN or even possibly a lower cost tire like the Fuzion ZRi, Avon M, etc.

Ride comfort and noise are a concern and hydroplane resistance over ultimate dry grip. The F1 GS-D3's made for a good overall tire and have lasted a decent amount of mileage considering at one point I had a bad alignment I waited quite a few weeks to fix and one major tire smoking stop when someone pulled right out in front of me and on top of that then stopped completely.

Edit: went with the F1 Asymmetricals.
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[fstime]

I like Pilot sports, next move will be PS2's in a few weeks......

 

[Apex]

The F1 GS-D3 are actually nice all around. The Advan Neova AD07 are definitely louder, though steering response is better and dry grip is higher as well.

If ride comfort, noise, and hydroplane resistance is really important, the GS-D3 is probably your best choice. You may also want to look at the Bridgestone Potenza RE-01A if they make your size.

 

[fbrdphreak]

I've heard good things about the F1 GS-D3's in the GTO community. However the consensus seems to be that the Bridgestone RE-01's are the pure shiz.

 

[RichieZ]

all my friends have Bridgestone RE-01's or Toyo T1-R's.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Fuzions are crap.

Obviously money no object, Michelin Pilot's. I'd give the Avon Tech's a shot.

 

[beat mania]

Stick with the f1gds3 I say.

 

[DivideBYZero]

I say keep the F1's. Great tyre. I love them.

(OK, so I'm running Continentals right now, but they are car specific...!)

 

[T2urtle]

9500 miles on a set of tires?

so you have a mustang and 240sx... are you like burning out on the weekends or what?

i have a set of ES100 on my turbo SER right now and they been thru 5000 miles and have aleast 15k more.

keep the F1's tho. never owned them but heard GREAT things about them.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I have Michelin Pilot Sport tires on my Maxima and I highly recommend them. They are excellent in the wet and very good on dry pavement as well. Noise levels are acceptable.

 

[NutBucket]

I don't know how you drive to kill ES100's that quickly. Anyway, I certainly can't argue with them being loud though. Definitely won't be buying those again. I think between my gf and I we've got about 25-30k on a set.

And is it just me or do they really not seem that sticky?

 

[SithSolo1]

I went from Bridgestone RE050s to Toyo T1-Rs

The Bridgestones had great traction but they didn't last that long(~16K). So far I'm liking the Toyo's but I only have about 2k miles on them.

 

[Beau]

anything BUT Falken 452's. Worst choice I've ever made. Gotta go back to the tire shop and haggle with them to let me pay the diff to go back to Eagle F1 A/S.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: NutBucket
I don't know how you drive to kill ES100's that quickly. Anyway, I certainly can't argue with them being loud though. Definitely won't be buying those again. I think between my gf and I we've got about 25-30k on a set.

And is it just me or do they really not seem that sticky?

It's not peeling out, it's my camber. I could adjust it out, but then my cornering would go way down. My first set I got 24k, the next with more radical alignment about 1/2 that.

Now I could have probably pushed the ES100's another 5k miles...but they were just so freaking noisy.

The ES100's I felt were not a great tire. I didn't feel they had great traction and in the rain / hydroplaning they sucked.

 

[alkemyst]

Those RE50's seem like they may be better overall except on mileage. It seems the Goodyear has the advantage there. The Bridgestones' would be about $80 more for the set. I will think about them.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Had 050's on an MX5 once. Didn't like them.

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: alkemyst
Those RE50's seem like they may be better overall except on mileage. It seems the Goodyear has the advantage there. The Bridgestones' would be about $80 more for the set. I will think about them.

Terrible tires, except for the RE050A Pole Position. There are 7 different RE050 lines, so make sure you get the right one if you're leaning in that direction.

 

[bruceb]

First, you should not set the camber that radically. No more than 1/2 deg
from factory stock. Next run the tires at the correct pressure .. usually about
5 PSI above whatever the car sticker says it should be. As to getting better
handling, you need to address it the proper way, with new antisway bars,
poly sway bar bushings and end links. Maybe better shocks. And depending
on the age and miles on the car, check the front end ball joints & ties rods for play.

Pirellii has some nice tires. I use the P6000 on my 1999 Grand Prix

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: bruceb
First, you should not set the camber that radically. No more than 1/2 deg
from factory stock. Next run the tires at the correct pressure .. usually about
5 PSI above whatever the car sticker says it should be. As to getting better
handling, you need to address it the proper way, with new antisway bars,
poly sway bar bushings and end links. Maybe better shocks. And depending
on the age and miles on the car, check the front end ball joints & ties rods for play.

Pirellii has some nice tires. I use the P6000 on my 1999 Grand Prix

lollerskates.

How about coilovers, helical rods for caster, adjust tie rod ends, adjustable control arms, adj traction control arms, adj. sway bars, and more

My alignment is, I drive it pretty hard daily:
Front:
Camber: -1.9/-2.0º
Caster: 7.0/7.5º
Toe: 0.00/0.00º

Rear:
Camber: -1.2/-1.2º
Toe: 0.26/0.25º

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Had 050's on an MX5 once. Didn't like them.

Because of the color?


I am leaning towards the F1 asymmetricals now more talking to some people and reading reviews.

Seems like a step up from my current F1's.

Just need to figure out if I am going to go 245/40 or stay with 235/40.

 

[helpme]

I have Bridgestone RE-01Rs for track use, I don't drive them on the street. I doubt they will last very long if I used them as dedicated street tires, they're pretty darn soft.

I thought about trying the F1 GS-D3, but the RE-01Rs were also highly recommended and cheaper. I wasen't ready for slicks just yet, so I bought those.

 

[alkemyst]

the GS-D3 would be a poor choice for a track tire.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero
Had 050's on an MX5 once. Didn't like them.

Because of the color?


I am leaning towards the F1 asymmetricals now more talking to some people and reading reviews.

Seems like a step up from my current F1's.

Just need to figure out if I am going to go 245/40 or stay with 235/40.

I'm sure that's a comment upon my sexuality, but I'm trying to ignore it. They were not good in the wet. Dry only and even then they were not communicative at the limit of grip.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: bruceb
First, you should not set the camber that radically. No more than 1/2 deg
from factory stock. Next run the tires at the correct pressure .. usually about
5 PSI above whatever the car sticker says it should be. As to getting better
handling, you need to address it the proper way, with new antisway bars,
poly sway bar bushings and end links. Maybe better shocks. And depending
on the age and miles on the car, check the front end ball joints & ties rods for play.

Lord - forgive him, for he knows not that there are some people who know a thing or two about suspension tuning...

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

I'm sure that's a comment upon my sexuality, but I'm trying to ignore it. They were not good in the wet. Dry only and even then they were not communicative at the limit of grip.

Hardly your sexuality...it was about your vagueness.

The 050 vanillas are a basic tire though and way different than the Pole Positions.