Almost got rob ... would I have been wrong to shoot him?

[LuckyTaxi]

I jsut came back from walking the dog and I almost got robbed. I knew the guy was up to something when he turned around and walked towards me and then had the nerves to walk past me and turn onto my block. How I knew he was going to try something? Well as he walked past me (I slowed down enough to cock my gun which was in my pocket), he looked back to see if I was going straight or turn onto my block. When he saw me hesitate, he turned and then turned down the driveway. Thats when my heart started beating faster and my damn dog wouldnt move out as fast as I wanted him.

Anyways, i walked past the driveway and he seemed to have vanished. He had all black on, so I'm assuming he was waiting to see if I would make the turn down the driveway. Thank god a car had happened to turn onto my block as I was walking down the street to my house.

So, if something would have gone down, would I have been wrong to shoot him?

 

[loup garou]

OMG DON'T SHOOT ROB!!!

 

[bonkers325]

only if he had a weapon

 

[LuckyTaxi]

Originally posted by: bonkers325
only if he had a weapon

True, but what am I supposed to do? Look and see if he has something in his hands? It would only take a few seconds for him to either hit me or stick a gun to my head. I planned it out so that if he had tried anything, I wouldve pointed my gun at him BUT NOT fire UNLESS he pulled a gun on me.

I dont wanna shoot anyone let alone kill someone.

 

[antyler]

Isnt there a law about unnecessary force or something like that. You can hold him at gunpoint until the cops come but you could only shoot him if your life was in danger?

 

[dartworth]

If you have to ask...it is too late...

how many threads have you started about drawing down on someone?

 

[arcenite]

Originally posted by: bonkers325
only if he had a weapon

shut the f!ck up if someone is robbing you, protect yourself at all costs. are you going to wait to see if he has a weapon, or shoot him in the leg, kick him to the ground, laugh at him, and then ask him if it was worth it.

Maybe this is why my girl doesn't let me get a gun :evil:

 

[LuckyTaxi]

Originally posted by: dartworth
If you have to ask...it is too late...

how many threads have you started about drawing down on someone?

This would be my second. My friend told me if I had to think, then I would be dead.

 

[Ronstang]

If he pulled a weapon you would have been within your rights to shoot him but it still would have cost you about $10K for the privelege.

 

[mundane]

Originally posted by: dartworth
If you have to ask...it is too late...

how many threads have you started about drawing down on someone?

Every thread like this is going to be anti-climactic; you can't post from prison, and that's where the most interesting story would lead.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

you have a concealed carry permit? betting not since you don't know the law

 

[LuckyTaxi]

Originally posted by: arcenite

Originally posted by: bonkers325
only if he had a weapon

shut the f!ck up if someone is robbing you, protect yourself at all costs. are you going to wait to see if he has a weapon, or shoot him in the leg, kick him to the ground, laugh at him, and then ask him if it was worth it.

Maybe this is why my girl doesn't let me get a gun :evil:

Thank you ... i remember my first thread on this similar issue, a lot of ppl kept saying "only if he/she had a weapon." So are you really going to wait and see if they have something in their hands? Now if you rob me and leave then ok cool, but there's that chance of some a$$hole who robs u and then decides to either shoot or stab you. I'm not taking any chance. Had I had to pull my gun tonight I wouldve did it to scare him, NOT shoot him UNLESS he pulled a gun.

 

[Buck Armstrong]

Originally posted by: loup garou
OMG DON'T SHOOT ROB!!!

Ahaha!

 

[LuckyTaxi]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
you have a concealed carry permit? betting not since you don't know the law

Yes I have one. What would this law be? Shoot to kill? Or shoot to protect one's self?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Depends on where you shoot him. If you shot him and he died a quick death, that would be wrong. If he suffered for an hour or two before death, then that's right.

 

[Number1]

Your playing with fire.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: lilcam

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
you have a concealed carry permit? betting not since you don't know the law

Yes I have one. What would this law be? Shoot to kill? Or shoot to protect one's self?

seems to me if you carry a weapon, you should be aware of your rights and the law regarding using your weapon

 

[altonb1]

Hmm...shoot him, then ask questions later. Plea bargain down if needed.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: altonb1
Hmm...shoot him, then ask questions later. Plea bargain down if needed.

and ruin your life and his without knowing anything

 

[LuckyTaxi]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Depends on where you shoot him. If you shot him and he died a quick death, that would be wrong. If he suffered for an hour or two before death, then that's right.

my thoughts exactly, you figure if you (have a license to carry) end up having to shoot some would-be robber (who probably doesnt have a license to carry and more than likely has a criminal record) then why wouldnt you win in a court of law? Assuming you dont pump your entire clip into his body, I would hope a juror would rule in your favor.

I live in Philly where I think the death toll from gun violence is in the low 80s at the moment. People get shot sitting in their car. Some guy was just found dead in his living room. Another man walked into his house and was shot with a shotgun upon entering his house. So, for anyone who says having a gun doesnt solve anything, you're right. You just have to responsible and use proper judgment when using it. It's not a toy and I completely understand that.

I think my first thread on this issue raised a lot of hell. A lot of people didnt like the fact I carry a gun, but if you live where i live, then maybe you'd think twice.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: lilcam

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
you have a concealed carry permit? betting not since you don't know the law

Yes I have one. What would this law be? Shoot to kill? Or shoot to protect one's self?

seems to me if you carry a weapon, you should be aware of your rights and the law regarding using your weapon

People interpret the laws differently so I understand what you're saying. But my friend said, you can't stop to think of the consequences if something did go down. it's either your life or his. Then again, I had this planned out, I WASN'T going to shoot him unless I had to.

 

[MikeyIs4Dcats]

Originally posted by: lilcam

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Depends on where you shoot him. If you shot him and he died a quick death, that would be wrong. If he suffered for an hour or two before death, then that's right.

my thoughts exactly, you figure if you (have a license to carry) end up having to shoot some would-be robber (who probably doesnt have a license to carry and more than likely has a criminal record) then why wouldnt you win in a court of law? Assuming you dont pump your entire clip into his body, I would hope a juror would rule in your favor.

I live in Philly where I think the death toll from gun violence is in the low 80s at the moment. People get shot sitting in their car. Some guy was just found dead in his living room. Another man walked into his house and was shot with a shotgun upon entering his house. So, for anyone who says having a gun doesnt solve anything, you're right. You just have to responsible and use proper judgment when using it. It's not a toy and I completely understand that.

I think my first thread on this issue raised a lot of hell. A lot of people didnt like the fact I carry a gun, but if you live where i live, then maybe you'd think twice.

courts and juries are becoming less and less sympathetic to those that wield weapons and kill innocent people regardless of whether they were scared or not.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: altonb1
Hmm...shoot him, then ask questions later. Plea bargain down if needed.

and ruin your life and his without knowing anything

Florida just passed this new "castle defense" law.

Two: It removes the "duty to retreat" if you are attacked in any place you have a right to be. You no longer have to turn your back on a criminal and try to run when attacked. Instead, you may stand your ground and fight back, meeting force with force, including deadly force, if you reasonably believe it is necessary to prevent death or great bodily harm to yourself or others. [This is an American right repeatedly recognized in Supreme Court gun cases.]

Three: It provides that persons using force authorized by law shall not be prosecuted for using such force.

So it seems unlikely that they'll be prosecuting those with CCW permits.

 

[daveshel]

The legal answer: You may not use deadly force to protect your property, but you may use deadly force to protect your life. If you had shot him, any case against you would turn on whether you could show that a reasonable person would have felt that their life was in danger under the circumstances.

 

[LuckyTaxi]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats

Originally posted by: lilcam

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
Depends on where you shoot him. If you shot him and he died a quick death, that would be wrong. If he suffered for an hour or two before death, then that's right.

my thoughts exactly, you figure if you (have a license to carry) end up having to shoot some would-be robber (who probably doesnt have a license to carry and more than likely has a criminal record) then why wouldnt you win in a court of law? Assuming you dont pump your entire clip into his body, I would hope a juror would rule in your favor.

I live in Philly where I think the death toll from gun violence is in the low 80s at the moment. People get shot sitting in their car. Some guy was just found dead in his living room. Another man walked into his house and was shot with a shotgun upon entering his house. So, for anyone who says having a gun doesnt solve anything, you're right. You just have to responsible and use proper judgment when using it. It's not a toy and I completely understand that.

I think my first thread on this issue raised a lot of hell. A lot of people didnt like the fact I carry a gun, but if you live where i live, then maybe you'd think twice.

courts and juries are becoming less and less sympathetic to those that wield weapons and kill innocent people regardless of whether they were scared or not.

What? where the heck do you live? You come to Philly and you might change your mind. Everyone here is pissed off about all the gun voilence on the streets today. Ordinary citizens are actually going out and getting permits to protect themselves. So you're saying if you're on a jury and some guy like myself was on trial, you'll convict me? If so, then if you got rob in front of me, I'll just ignore your plea for help and keep walking. Maybe I'll give you a knife. Remember, dont bring a knife to a gun fight.