Allow me to re-phrase the question...

[docmanhattan]

What is the more effective method of anti-war protest?

reasoned discussion?

or

or one-liners and quips?

It would seem that of late there have been a number of flame-bait style threads started that are nothing more than a open invitation bickering.

Take this thread for example: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=975597

And while bickering and mud slinging is a beloved past time of OT, I have seriious doubts about how well the latter form does in stimulatinng genuine discussion worthy of OT bandwidth.

Granted, however, a well place use of humor can make for a smooth segway into a great thread, but when not judiciously used it can ignite tempers. And some might say that that a good thing, it leads to bruised egos and ill will. And then no ones happy.

That said, I've always preferred the intelligent threads, like babes theads...errr...um...YAGT...no...um ..you know, the good War/Anti- war politico threads or Gun threads etc. The ones with links and reasons and language nazis and

( dang, this is just rambling... )

and sprinkled with a few personal attacks and name calling. Those are fun threads. You laugh, you cry, you post angry and feel smug until they reply comes and then you post again. It's very gratifying.

any thoughts? anyone? anyone? Bueller?

 

[StageLeft]

My thoughts are that you're right, but one-liners are easy to remember by those who don't know any better

 

[squirrel dog]

i LIKE HUMOR .

 

[docmanhattan]

Originally posted by: squirrel dog
i LIKE HUMOR .

me TOO.

i'm JUST bored OF the FLAMEbaits. THAT's all.

i GUESS i DON't HAVE to CLICK on every thread...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: docmanhattan
What is the more effective method of anti-war protest?

reasoned discussion?

or

or one-liners and quips?

It would seem that of late there have been a number of flame-bait style threads started that are nothing more than a open invitation bickering.

Take this thread for example: http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.cfm?catid=38&threadid=975597

And while bickering and mud slinging is a beloved past time of OT, I have seriious doubts about how well the latter form does in stimulatinng genuine discussion worthy of OT bandwidth.

Granted, however, a well place use of humor can make for a smooth segway into a great thread, but when not judiciously used it can ignite tempers. And some might say that that a good thing, it leads to bruised egos and ill will. And then no ones happy.

That said, I've always preferred the intelligent threads, like babes theads...errr...um...YAGT...no...um ..you know, the good War/Anti- war politico threads or Gun threads etc. The ones with links and reasons and language nazis and

( dang, this is just rambling... )

and sprinkled with a few personal attacks and name calling. Those are fun threads. You laugh, you cry, you post angry and feel smug until they reply comes and then you post again. It's very gratifying.

any thoughts? anyone? anyone? Bueller?

I'd think that if Moonies posts bothered you so much that you felt the need to create a thread pointing that out, you might just consider not reading them. Anyway, the more ridiculous the argument against you point of view is the easier it should be to come up with an effective rebuttal. To be honest, before all these debated erupted here at ATOT I was probably more against War in Iraq than I am now thanks the the back and forth banter regading this issue.

I'm still real uneasy about it but that's because I understand the ramifications if we do attack Iraq. However the consequence we face if we don't disarm Iraq make me feel even more uncomfortable. This has also led be to come to the conclusion that Bush Sr was a real nearsighted coward by not showng the leadership and the fortitude one would expect from a war time leader by not finishing the job and taking out Hussien when we had the oppoirtunity. Any deaths in the upcomming military action can be rightfully blamed on his lack of spine.

 

[docmanhattan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'd think that if Moonies posts bothered you so much that you felt the need to create a thread pointing that out, you might just consider not reading them. Anyway, the more ridiculous the argument against you point of view is the easier it should be to come up with an effective rebuttal. To be honest, before all these debated erupted here at ATOT I was probably more against War in Iraq than I am now thanks the the back and forth banter regading this issue.

I'm still real uneasy about it but that's because I understand the ramifications if we do attack Iraq. However the consequence we face if we don't disarm Iraq make me feel even more uncomfortable. This has also led be to come to the conclusion that Bush Sr was a real nearsighted coward by not showng the leadership and the fortitude one would expect from a war time leader by not finishing the job and taking out Hussien when we had the oppoirtunity. Any deaths in the upcomming military action can be rightfully blamed on his lack of spine.

like i said right above, "i guess i don't have to click every thread..."

i'm not saying that there hasn't been great threads about a possible war. far from it. however, i'm just cranky today and finding that moonies antics are more irritating then usual.

why didn't Bush Sr. follow through and completely disarm Iraq and remove Sadaam? That would seem to be a _huge_failing on his part.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: docmanhattan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'd think that if Moonies posts bothered you so much that you felt the need to create a thread pointing that out, you might just consider not reading them. Anyway, the more ridiculous the argument against you point of view is the easier it should be to come up with an effective rebuttal. To be honest, before all these debated erupted here at ATOT I was probably more against War in Iraq than I am now thanks the the back and forth banter regading this issue.

I'm still real uneasy about it but that's because I understand the ramifications if we do attack Iraq. However the consequence we face if we don't disarm Iraq make me feel even more uncomfortable. This has also led be to come to the conclusion that Bush Sr was a real nearsighted coward by not showng the leadership and the fortitude one would expect from a war time leader by not finishing the job and taking out Hussien when we had the oppoirtunity. Any deaths in the upcomming military action can be rightfully blamed on his lack of spine.

like i said right above, "i guess i don't have to click every thread..."

i'm not saying that there hasn't been great threads about a possible war. far from it. however, i'm just cranky today and finding that moonies antics are more irritating then usual.

why didn't Bush Sr. follow through and completely disarm Iraq and remove Sadaam? That would seem to be a _huge_failing on his part.

Because he didn't want to upset his Arab Allies and the French. He left that up tp his son Sure hindsight is 20/20 but his cowardice goes beyond that. Before the was we had promised the Kurds in the north and the Shia in the south that we would protect and support them if they were to rebel against Hussien. Of course after the ceasefire when the Kurds and the Shia rebelled, Hussien responded by brutalizing them with gas and nerve agents and we didn't lift a finger to stop him. Talk about betrayal! We might as well have flown the French Tri Color instead of the Stars and Stripes.

 

[docmanhattan]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: docmanhattan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'd think that if Moonies posts bothered you so much that you felt the need to create a thread pointing that out, you might just consider not reading them. Anyway, the more ridiculous the argument against you point of view is the easier it should be to come up with an effective rebuttal. To be honest, before all these debated erupted here at ATOT I was probably more against War in Iraq than I am now thanks the the back and forth banter regading this issue.

I'm still real uneasy about it but that's because I understand the ramifications if we do attack Iraq. However the consequence we face if we don't disarm Iraq make me feel even more uncomfortable. This has also led be to come to the conclusion that Bush Sr was a real nearsighted coward by not showng the leadership and the fortitude one would expect from a war time leader by not finishing the job and taking out Hussien when we had the oppoirtunity. Any deaths in the upcomming military action can be rightfully blamed on his lack of spine.

like i said right above, "i guess i don't have to click every thread..."

i'm not saying that there hasn't been great threads about a possible war. far from it. however, i'm just cranky today and finding that moonies antics are more irritating then usual.

why didn't Bush Sr. follow through and completely disarm Iraq and remove Sadaam? That would seem to be a _huge_failing on his part.

Because he didn't want to upset his Arab Allies and the French. He left that up tp his son Sure hindsight is 20/20 but his cowardice goes beyond that. Before the was we had promised the Kurds in the north and the Shia in the south that we would protect and support them if they were to rebel against Hussien. Of course after the ceasefire when the Kurds and the Shia rebelled, Hussien responded by brutalizing them with gas and nerve agents and we didn't lift a finger to stop him. Talk about betrayal! We might as well have flown the French Tri Color instead of the Stars and Stripes.

Was Hussiens attack on the Kurds and Shia still during the Bush Sr. administration?

See, that's the one thing that Sadaam has over the US. He's be consistently in power for the past 12 years.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: docmanhattan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: docmanhattan

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I'd think that if Moonies posts bothered you so much that you felt the need to create a thread pointing that out, you might just consider not reading them. Anyway, the more ridiculous the argument against you point of view is the easier it should be to come up with an effective rebuttal. To be honest, before all these debated erupted here at ATOT I was probably more against War in Iraq than I am now thanks the the back and forth banter regading this issue.

I'm still real uneasy about it but that's because I understand the ramifications if we do attack Iraq. However the consequence we face if we don't disarm Iraq make me feel even more uncomfortable. This has also led be to come to the conclusion that Bush Sr was a real nearsighted coward by not showng the leadership and the fortitude one would expect from a war time leader by not finishing the job and taking out Hussien when we had the oppoirtunity. Any deaths in the upcomming military action can be rightfully blamed on his lack of spine.

like i said right above, "i guess i don't have to click every thread..."

i'm not saying that there hasn't been great threads about a possible war. far from it. however, i'm just cranky today and finding that moonies antics are more irritating then usual.

why didn't Bush Sr. follow through and completely disarm Iraq and remove Sadaam? That would seem to be a _huge_failing on his part.

Because he didn't want to upset his Arab Allies and the French. He left that up tp his son Sure hindsight is 20/20 but his cowardice goes beyond that. Before the was we had promised the Kurds in the north and the Shia in the south that we would protect and support them if they were to rebel against Hussien. Of course after the ceasefire when the Kurds and the Shia rebelled, Hussien responded by brutalizing them with gas and nerve agents and we didn't lift a finger to stop him. Talk about betrayal! We might as well have flown the French Tri Color instead of the Stars and Stripes.

Was Hussiens attack on the Kurds and Shia still during the Bush Sr. administration?

See, that's the one thing that Sadaam has over the US. He's be consistently in power for the past 12 years.

Immediately following the Ceasefire so BS was still at the helm.

One incident might help explain his reluctance to honor his promise. Right after the ceasefire and the No Fly zones were established in the North and South of Iraq one of our planes shot down what they werte told was an Iraqi Helicopter attacking a Kurdish Village. It turned out to be either a US or UN Helicopter and alll about were killed. After that the only targets that our jets fired on were Iraqi Fixed Wing Aircraft and Anti Aircraft Missile and Radar sites.