allofmp3.com to be shut down by US and Russian forces

Schadenfroh

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The official agreement noted that Russia has agreed to aid U.S. authorities in shutting down illegal websites such as those carrying bittorrent files or direct downloads of copyrighted music, movies and software. One of the main websites under target is AllofMP3.com -- a prime example of a website that connects users to copyrighted music free of royalties.

Glad to see this happen, I know the RIAA is evil, but at least some money gets to the artists from their record labels, allofmp3.com is just flat out theft from the artists.
 

Slick5150

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Allofmp3 should be a wakeup call to the RIAA that THAT'S how an online music store should be run. Choice of DRM-free formats and quality, inexpensive (as the cost to them is minimal), and user friendly...

Legal or not, it's a good system.
 

fitzov

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Bah. They will never stop distribution of information over the internets.
 

magomago

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO....I still need to spend 7 bucks over there :( Any ideas?

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it really WAS the best service out there....i could pick the format of the song i wanted - i could pick the size...and it was all so reasonable at ~10-20 cents a pop! No stupid DRM to deal with, massive selection, many choices, and good price.
I'm not paying over a freaking dollar for a song at a lower bit rate that i naturally can't use on my operating system (does the linuxes out there have a way to deal with protected music such as fairplay? I have no idea! Even in windows its annoying as I have to REPEATEDLY insert my password for songs i get from i tunes). And most people who use itunes and want to get around DRM burn a bloody CD and then re-rip from that as mp3...Lossy conversion of a lossy format...ewww :(
 

SP33Demon

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Agreed, I loved that site it was the best service for the $$$. Now it's back to bit-torrent, MIRC, and mp3search. *sigh*
 

BaliBabyDoc

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Agreed, I loved that site it was the best service for the $$$. Now it's back to bit-torrent, MIRC, and mp3search. *sigh*

I never got around to using it but it certainly looked nice . . . and shady.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Glad to see this happen, I know the RIAA is evil, but at least some money gets to the artists from their record labels, allofmp3.com is just flat out theft from the artists.
QFT! I have patents in electronics and copyrights on songs I've written. It's about time. :thumbsup: :cool: :thumbsup:

Listen to the tune at the link in my sig file if you want to, but do notice the ©.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Slick5150
Allofmp3 should be a wakeup call to the RIAA that THAT'S how an online music store should be run. Choice of DRM-free formats and quality, inexpensive (as the cost to them is minimal), and user friendly...

Legal or not, it's a good system.
Making money by ripping off the artists is a good system? :confused:
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Glad to see this happen, I know the RIAA is evil, but at least some money gets to the artists from their record labels, allofmp3.com is just flat out theft from the artists.
QFT! I have patents in electronics and copyrights on songs I've written. It's about time. :thumbsup: :cool: :thumbsup:

Listen to the tune at the link in my sig file if you want to, but do notice the ©.

99 cents for a file that plays a song at a quality less than a cd is no deal.

15 cents would be a fair price.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
99 cents for a file that plays a song at a quality less than a cd is no deal.

15 cents would be a fair price.
Please give us the benefit of your grand expertise on the subject of income derived from creative works. Do you have a clue about the costs of production, including fair compensation for the time it takes to create a really good piece of music or literature?

Aren't you glad you don't depend on income from your creative talents to support your life: :roll:
 

Slick5150

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
99 cents for a file that plays a song at a quality less than a cd is no deal.

15 cents would be a fair price.
Please give us the benefit of your grand expertise on the subject of income derived from creative works. Do you have a clue about the costs of production, including fair compensation for the time it takes to create a really good piece of music or literature?

Aren't you glad you don't depend on income from your creative talents to support your life: :roll:


Considering a CD, which would obviously include far greater production costs, costs LESS than the digital downloads, I'd say he has a point.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
99 cents for a file that plays a song at a quality less than a cd is no deal.

15 cents would be a fair price.
Please give us the benefit of your grand expertise on the subject of income derived from creative works. Do you have a clue about the costs of production, including fair compensation for the time it takes to create a really good piece of music or literature?

Aren't you glad you don't depend on income from your creative talents to support your life: :roll:

Why should I pay you for the entire cost of producing 1 song?

Do I get my money back when you put 1 good song on an album and 10 others are crap?

Plus...I said 15 cents for a file...if I want a cd and the case and the booklet plus a song at GOOD quality I will buy the CD.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Why should I pay you for the entire cost of producing 1 song?
You shouldn't, but a song that sells well should help to support the creative efforts of those involved with producin it. Nobody says you have to buy it if you don't think you're getting your money's worth.
Plus...I said 15 cents for a file...if I want a cd and the case and the booklet plus a song at GOOD quality I will buy the CD.
I'll ask again -- What professional experience do you have that qualifies your opinion as anything more than vapor? Unless you're in the business of trying to support yourself on your creative efforts, or you're close enough to someone who does, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about the subject.
 

GoPackGo

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Why should I pay you for the entire cost of producing 1 song?
You shouldn't, but a song that sells well should help to support the creative efforts of those involved with producin it. Nobody says you have to buy it if you don't think you're getting your money's worth.
Plus...I said 15 cents for a file...if I want a cd and the case and the booklet plus a song at GOOD quality I will buy the CD.
I'll ask again -- What professional experience do you have that qualifies your opinion as anything more than vapor? Unless you're in the business of trying to support yourself on your creative efforts, or you're close enough to someone who does, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about the subject.

I do know the price I am willing to pay.... I dont care what you put into a song....

Axl Rose has spent 13 million dollars on producing Chinese Democracy and its still not out. Does that mean I should pay 190 dollars for a CD? 10 dollars to download a song?
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I do know the price I am willing to pay.... I dont care what you put into a song....

Axl Rose has spent 13 million dollars on producing Chinese Democracy and its still not out. Does that mean I should pay 190 dollars for a CD? 10 dollars to download a song?
< sarcasm >

Does that mean you won't be paying my $350 invoice? :(

< /sarcasm >
 

f95toli

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Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
99 cents for a file that plays a song at a quality less than a cd is no deal.

15 cents would be a fair price.
Please give us the benefit of your grand expertise on the subject of income derived from creative works. Do you have a clue about the costs of production, including fair compensation for the time it takes to create a really good piece of music or literature?

Aren't you glad you don't depend on income from your creative talents to support your life: :roll:

The problem is - as already pointed out- that the cost of downloading music of often HIGHER than buying the CD if you want the whole album AND the quality is really bad.
IF a site started selling music in e.g. FLAC format without annoying DRM and the price was at least somewhat lower than the cost of a CD I would perhaps consider buying music online.
At the moment the record companies are just making enemies by charging prices that are too high and making CDs unplayable even on ordinary CD-players by using "copy protection" (which doesn't protect anything but is hightly annoying for those of us who acutually DO buy music legally) . In order to be able to play some CDs on my stereo I have to first rip the CD using EAC and then burn it to a CD-R.
 

Kadarin

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As a consumer, here is what I want:

A website that indexes songs by genre and makes recommendations for new music that I might want.
The ability to listen to (a lower quality version) previews of the entire song, not just a 30 second clip.
A wide selection of obscure music, in addition to popular music.
Signed and unsigned artists (who may choose to upload their own material to make it available).
ABSOLUTELY NO DRM!
A (high quality) music format that I can play on my ipod and my PC, or any (reasonable) future device, without issue.
The ability to play music on my PC (or Mac) regardless of player or operating system.

I am willing to pay up to about 40 cents per song.

I'm sorry, but iTunes doesn't cut it. Allofmp3.com does.
 

quentinterintino

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Originally posted by: Astaroth33
As a consumer, here is what I want:

A website that indexes songs by genre and makes recommendations for new music that I might want.
The ability to listen to (a lower quality version) previews of the entire song, not just a 30 second clip.
A wide selection of obscure music, in addition to popular music.
Signed and unsigned artists (who may choose to upload their own material to make it available).
ABSOLUTELY NO DRM!
A (high quality) music format that I can play on my ipod and my PC, or any (reasonable) future device, without issue.
The ability to play music on my PC (or Mac) regardless of player or operating system.

I am willing to pay up to about 40 cents per song.

I'm sorry, but iTunes doesn't cut it. Allofmp3.com does.

You can supplement your "regimen" with pandora.com -- good recommendations via this site.
 

Kadarin

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Originally posted by: quentinterintino
Originally posted by: Astaroth33
As a consumer, here is what I want:

A website that indexes songs by genre and makes recommendations for new music that I might want.
The ability to listen to (a lower quality version) previews of the entire song, not just a 30 second clip.
A wide selection of obscure music, in addition to popular music.
Signed and unsigned artists (who may choose to upload their own material to make it available).
ABSOLUTELY NO DRM!
A (high quality) music format that I can play on my ipod and my PC, or any (reasonable) future device, without issue.
The ability to play music on my PC (or Mac) regardless of player or operating system.

I am willing to pay up to about 40 cents per song.

I'm sorry, but iTunes doesn't cut it. Allofmp3.com does.

You can supplement your "regimen" with pandora.com -- good recommendations via this site.

Interesting. I've selected a song and been listening for the past 20 minutes or so, and it's good so far. :thumbsup:
 

f95toli

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Originally posted by: aidanjm
how can it be shut down when iut is legal according to Russian law?


Because if the Putin&co decides to shut something down it does not matter if it is legal or not. They have shut down several newspappers and TV-channels over the past few years so shutting down a website on unclear legal ground should be very easy for them. No one is Russia will bat an eyelid when the site is closed down.



 

Mardeth

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Originally posted by: Harvey
I'll ask again -- What professional experience do you have that qualifies your opinion as anything more than vapor? Unless you're in the business of trying to support yourself on your creative efforts, or you're close enough to someone who does, you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground about the subject.

There is something called a balance. Say you sold 1000 songs online for 99 cents, thats $999. Or you could sell 2000 for 50 cents and end up with more money. In this case the fixed costs are high and the variable costs low. Meaning its important to find the price where you get the most revenue not the amount which covers the costs.