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Cattlegod

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Originally posted by: PowerMac4Ever
Originally posted by: imthebadguy
TORRANCE, Calif. -- Honda has issued a voluntary recall of nearly 500,000 automatic transmission Honda and Acura models to repair ignition switch interlocks.

The system is intended to prevent removal of the ignition key unless the shift lever is in the park position. The company says it may not work properly.

The recall includes some 1999 to 2002 Honda Accord models and all 1997 to 2001 Prelude models. Some 1999 and 2000 Acura TL sedans are also included in the recall.

The company said 11 incidents related to the defect have resulted in minor property damage, but no injuries have been reported.

Honda said it will repair the defect free of charge at authorized dealers when parts become available.

take that all you japcrap fanboys, go buy a quality american vehicle
I bolded the important part for you. Also, my family bought two American cars within the last 3 years... both were Toyotas built in America by Americans.

with all the profit going to japan, pulling market share from the domestic brands causing lay-offs.
 

alent1234

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all you domestic car lovers can gloat all you want, but which cars hold their value better? If cars from the big three are so good then why does their value drop like a rock in the first two years and Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans don't?

My Toyota Matrix has a higher US part content than it's cousin the Pontiac Vibe. And if you haven't hears, most GM, Ford and Chryslers are made in Ontario because the US union workers can't build a quality car to save their jobs and 70% of cars they make have to be fixed before heading out to dealers. Toyotas and Hondas are in the single digits.
 

hysperion

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Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: hysperion
The reason japanese cars are considered more reliable is because they are driven by a group of people who generally buy them and drive them leisurely. Most American cars are beat to piss and because of that they have a bad reliability rating. Yes the ricer crowd drives their cars the same way but the ricer crowd isn't that big in comparison. There have been plenty of lemon japanese vehicles- Mazda Rx7's for one. It's also true that Japanese cars generally have less innovation. My dad works for Delphi- he summed it up very well as he used to work with GM but now deals with Toyota: GM wants the latest coolest gadgets and Toyota wants a proven technology and generally uses less innovative parts which leads to less issues.

You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable because of the people who drive them (which was a stupid enough statement, given the number of riceboys who beat the piss out of their Civics), then you go on to describe how Toyota only chooses the most reliable and proven technologies for their cars while GM shoves in anything that looks good.

You sir, are a moron. Please stop posting.


Waa Waa Waa did I hit on your parade of mazda that you put in your sig? Mazda makes sh1tty vehicles, look I can link too! http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/lemon_site/sources.htm ....one of the only vehicles I know of that has it's own website dedicated to it being a complete lemon- the mazda rx7. I never said GM shoves in anything that looks good- I said newer technologies- kinda like how it is with computers.....and in your post you said "You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable" Read my post again clown- I never said that was the only reason. Way to be an ignorant flamer.
 
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Originally posted by: hysperion
one of the only vehicles I know of that has it's own website dedicated to it being a complete lemon- the mazda rx7

Firstly, if you take care of it, it'll last just fine. There's lots of RX7s on original engines still humming away. :)

Secondly, single domestic cars don't get websites devoted to them being lemons - whole brands do. ;)

And finally, you're still being a dumbass. :p

- M4H
 

shilala

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Originally posted by: LtPage1
Originally posted by: Ronstang
The funny thing is if this was a Ford recall they would be spewing "this is why I won't ever buy a Ford POS" but considering this is Honda they will all start making excuses and analyzing the situation. Typical hypicrites.

whatever. both sides have dumb trolls, and this thread proves it. i think we can all agree that overall, japanese cars tend to be more reliable than domestics- obviously american cars have certain other things going for them (*cough* GTO *cough*), and reliability isnt the only reason most people buy their cars.

Yes, absolutely. They shore up our economy tremendously, too.
I think everyone should buy foreign vehicles, it's just the right thing to do.
 

Squisher

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Originally posted by: alent1234
all you domestic car lovers can gloat all you want, but which cars hold their value better? If cars from the big three are so good then why does their value drop like a rock in the first two years and Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans don't?

My Toyota Matrix has a higher US part content than it's cousin the Pontiac Vibe. And if you haven't hears, most GM, Ford and Chryslers are made in Ontario because the US union workers can't build a quality car to save their jobs and 70% of cars they make have to be fixed before heading out to dealers. Toyotas and Hondas are in the single digits.
Link?

BTW-Dependability study

And another BTW - Foreign transplant factories account for fewer than 70K US jobs, Ford, DMX, & GM account for close to 500K just in their employees which don't include all their suppliers. Of all the foreign manufacturers, Toyota seems to be trying to increase the amount of US made content in their cars and assemble more cars here more than others.




 

0roo0roo

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some cars are even designed and engineered by americans for the us market too. like the accord.. the accord is way bigger in america. and all those big japanese trucks? mostly american market only too.
 

phonemonkey

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: marcello
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: marcello
I read the first page and stopped. You're all missing the point. Only sh|tty drivers get auto transmission. People who like to do more than just point their car buy manual. So anyone who bought auto deserves it (even though what "it" is, is not even an issue).


not everyone sees the point of doing extra work while driving. not everyone is under the delusions that they are a race car driver.

Not only does it make driving much more fun (hence not work) it puts you in more control of your car, which I believe results in being a better driver

Most people dont treat their cars as toys for "fun". And the more you have to do, the more you are forced to multitask which makes things less safe. And unless you are a racecar pro with paddle shifters, in emergency situations you're better off w/ two hands on the wheel without worrying about shifting for anyreason.

I feel sorry for you that you don't seem to enjoy driving. Growing up in the Pac NW, I had many enjoyable times driving along the coast and in the mountains.

I don't know about you, but shifting for me isn't even on my mind when I'm driving. I've just learned when to shift by feel or sound.

You should know that you can just push in the clutch in an emergency, effectively negating the need to worry about gears (unless you need to power out of a situation). If you find yourself having to think about what gear to use, you should spend more time practicing your driving.

I've driven a stick ever since my first car. Want to know how many accidents I've had? 1 (another driver turned into me as a passed him). Oddly enough, driving a stick meant that I was able to stop faster as I pushed in the clutch (as opposed to being pushed forward by being in gear). I could make a comment about the other driver driving an automatic, but I'll pass on that one.

I've asked several people that grew up in Europe about their opinions on driving an automatic vs manual, and a majority said that really only the lazy or old drove automatics. Well, them and Americans on vacation ;) I guess they (Europeans) should be glad they're alive given that a majority drive sticks there as well.
 

iversonyin

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Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: hysperion
The reason japanese cars are considered more reliable is because they are driven by a group of people who generally buy them and drive them leisurely. Most American cars are beat to piss and because of that they have a bad reliability rating. Yes the ricer crowd drives their cars the same way but the ricer crowd isn't that big in comparison. There have been plenty of lemon japanese vehicles- Mazda Rx7's for one. It's also true that Japanese cars generally have less innovation. My dad works for Delphi- he summed it up very well as he used to work with GM but now deals with Toyota: GM wants the latest coolest gadgets and Toyota wants a proven technology and generally uses less innovative parts which leads to less issues.

You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable because of the people who drive them (which was a stupid enough statement, given the number of riceboys who beat the piss out of their Civics), then you go on to describe how Toyota only chooses the most reliable and proven technologies for their cars while GM shoves in anything that looks good.

You sir, are a moron. Please stop posting.


Waa Waa Waa did I hit on your parade of mazda that you put in your sig? Mazda makes sh1tty vehicles, look I can link too! http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/lemon_site/sources.htm ....one of the only vehicles I know of that has it's own website dedicated to it being a complete lemon- the mazda rx7. I never said GM shoves in anything that looks good- I said newer technologies- kinda like how it is with computers.....and in your post you said "You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable" Read my post again clown- I never said that was the only reason. Way to be an ignorant flamer.

The irony is Ford actually own big part of Mazda. And I wonder why...

What about safety issue with Ford Pinto?



 

iversonyin

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Originally posted by: Squisher
Originally posted by: alent1234
all you domestic car lovers can gloat all you want, but which cars hold their value better? If cars from the big three are so good then why does their value drop like a rock in the first two years and Toyotas, Hondas and Nissans don't?

My Toyota Matrix has a higher US part content than it's cousin the Pontiac Vibe. And if you haven't hears, most GM, Ford and Chryslers are made in Ontario because the US union workers can't build a quality car to save their jobs and 70% of cars they make have to be fixed before heading out to dealers. Toyotas and Hondas are in the single digits.
Link?

BTW-Dependability study

And another BTW - Foreign transplant factories account for fewer than 70K US jobs, Ford, DMX, & GM account for close to 500K just in their employees which don't include all their suppliers. Of all the foreign manufacturers, Toyota seems to be trying to increase the amount of US made content in their cars and assemble more cars here more than others.

They do that to avoid tariff, so they can offer more competitive prices.

And I believe Toyota is gaining share in America. While the Big 3 Americans are losing market shares....

 

NutBucket

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Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Yeah!

Seriously. Why haven't Japanese car companies haven't come out with extra wide EE sized seats for us lard ass Americans?!?

its not true though. all automakers have been sizing up their seats and stuff through the years. getting wider and stuff. mentioned in many of those news magazines when they do their annual fat americans editions:) heck, the current civic is the same size of an accord from the early 90s:p

This is true. I've been in the backseat of my friend's '03 Civic and it doesn't fell any more cramped then the backseat of my '91 Accord. The main difference in size seems to be from hood and trunk.
 
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Originally posted by: imthebadguy
TORRANCE, Calif. -- Honda has issued a voluntary recall of nearly 500,000 automatic transmission Honda and Acura models to repair ignition switch interlocks.

The system is intended to prevent removal of the ignition key unless the shift lever is in the park position. The company says it may not work properly.

The recall includes some 1999 to 2002 Honda Accord models and all 1997 to 2001 Prelude models. Some 1999 and 2000 Acura TL sedans are also included in the recall.

The company said 11 incidents related to the defect have resulted in minor property damage, but no injuries have been reported.

Honda said it will repair the defect free of charge at authorized dealers when parts become available.

take that all you japcrap fanboys, go buy a quality american vehicle


screw j00...buy british

Aston Martin, Jaguar, Morgan, Lotus and TVR all the way!

i know technically Aston and jag are owned by ford, and i remember at one point TVR was gonna be sold off to an american i think

but

theyre still british at heart
 

imthebadguy

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Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: hysperion
The reason japanese cars are considered more reliable is because they are driven by a group of people who generally buy them and drive them leisurely. Most American cars are beat to piss and because of that they have a bad reliability rating. Yes the ricer crowd drives their cars the same way but the ricer crowd isn't that big in comparison. There have been plenty of lemon japanese vehicles- Mazda Rx7's for one. It's also true that Japanese cars generally have less innovation. My dad works for Delphi- he summed it up very well as he used to work with GM but now deals with Toyota: GM wants the latest coolest gadgets and Toyota wants a proven technology and generally uses less innovative parts which leads to less issues.

You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable because of the people who drive them (which was a stupid enough statement, given the number of riceboys who beat the piss out of their Civics), then you go on to describe how Toyota only chooses the most reliable and proven technologies for their cars while GM shoves in anything that looks good.

You sir, are a moron. Please stop posting.


Waa Waa Waa did I hit on your parade of mazda that you put in your sig? Mazda makes sh1tty vehicles, look I can link too! http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/lemon_site/sources.htm ....one of the only vehicles I know of that has it's own website dedicated to it being a complete lemon- the mazda rx7. I never said GM shoves in anything that looks good- I said newer technologies- kinda like how it is with computers.....and in your post you said "You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable" Read my post again clown- I never said that was the only reason. Way to be an ignorant flamer.

The irony is Ford actually own big part of Mazda. And I wonder why...

What about safety issue with Ford Pinto?
rx7 fiasco occured b4 ford took ownership stake in mazda, do your research before you run your mouth

 

0roo0roo

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Originally posted by: otispunkmeyer
Originally posted by: imthebadguy
TORRANCE, Calif. -- Honda has issued a voluntary recall of nearly 500,000 automatic transmission Honda and Acura models to repair ignition switch interlocks.

The system is intended to prevent removal of the ignition key unless the shift lever is in the park position. The company says it may not work properly.

The recall includes some 1999 to 2002 Honda Accord models and all 1997 to 2001 Prelude models. Some 1999 and 2000 Acura TL sedans are also included in the recall.

The company said 11 incidents related to the defect have resulted in minor property damage, but no injuries have been reported.

Honda said it will repair the defect free of charge at authorized dealers when parts become available.

take that all you japcrap fanboys, go buy a quality american vehicle


screw j00...buy british

Aston Martin, Jaguar, Morgan, Lotus and TVR all the way!

i know technically Aston and jag are owned by ford, and i remember at one point TVR was gonna be sold off to an american i think

but

theyre still british at heart


well actually ford saved aston.. it was turning into sh*t:p
 

hondAS2ooo170

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Originally posted by: imthebadguy
TORRANCE, Calif. -- Honda has issued a voluntary recall of nearly 500,000 automatic transmission Honda and Acura models to repair ignition switch interlocks.

The system is intended to prevent removal of the ignition key unless the shift lever is in the park position. The company says it may not work properly.

The recall includes some 1999 to 2002 Honda Accord models and all 1997 to 2001 Prelude models. Some 1999 and 2000 Acura TL sedans are also included in the recall.

The company said 11 incidents related to the defect have resulted in minor property damage, but no injuries have been reported.

Honda said it will repair the defect free of charge at authorized dealers when parts become available.

take that all you japcrap fanboys, go buy a quality american vehicle

well both domestic, japanese, and european cars are all good. the only reason y a car is breaking down is that most people doesnt know how drive a car. i dont mean drive as in behind the wheel. its more as taking care of it. example, statistic says to keep a car run longer than usual is by letting oil circulate the cars engine. now and days everyone is in a rush so they just miss the part where they need to wait for a minute before putting in gear. also jap cars r really reliable. also u r being stupid if u japanese car is crap considering that domestic is buying engine from the japanese market.
 

iversonyin

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Originally posted by: imthebadguy
Originally posted by: iversonyin
Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: hysperion
The reason japanese cars are considered more reliable is because they are driven by a group of people who generally buy them and drive them leisurely. Most American cars are beat to piss and because of that they have a bad reliability rating. Yes the ricer crowd drives their cars the same way but the ricer crowd isn't that big in comparison. There have been plenty of lemon japanese vehicles- Mazda Rx7's for one. It's also true that Japanese cars generally have less innovation. My dad works for Delphi- he summed it up very well as he used to work with GM but now deals with Toyota: GM wants the latest coolest gadgets and Toyota wants a proven technology and generally uses less innovative parts which leads to less issues.

You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable because of the people who drive them (which was a stupid enough statement, given the number of riceboys who beat the piss out of their Civics), then you go on to describe how Toyota only chooses the most reliable and proven technologies for their cars while GM shoves in anything that looks good.

You sir, are a moron. Please stop posting.


Waa Waa Waa did I hit on your parade of mazda that you put in your sig? Mazda makes sh1tty vehicles, look I can link too! http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/lemon_site/sources.htm ....one of the only vehicles I know of that has it's own website dedicated to it being a complete lemon- the mazda rx7. I never said GM shoves in anything that looks good- I said newer technologies- kinda like how it is with computers.....and in your post you said "You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable" Read my post again clown- I never said that was the only reason. Way to be an ignorant flamer.

The irony is Ford actually own big part of Mazda. And I wonder why...

What about safety issue with Ford Pinto?
rx7 fiasco occured b4 ford took ownership stake in mazda, do your research before you run your mouth

No crap, but you said Mazda MAKES sh1tty vehicle. "Makes" as in today. and Rx7 is so 1990s, shut your trap. Thats ONE lemon out of how many Jap "craps" that were sold today?!

Seriously, do YOUR research before coming here and yelling at fanboys cause you are 1 yourself.

And yea your dad works for GM, no wonder you are an American car fanboys. You said it youself. Toyota use less innovative parts to make their car more reliable.

I prefer a reliable car over a car that break down in the middle of highway with all the cool gadgets.

And what "innovative" gadgets is on GM vehicles that Toyota doesn't have?

And please list other lemon that Japanese make. I'll match every one of Jap recall with an American one.

Let me start: Saturn Vue- suspension problem
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/recalls04/vue_recall.html

Ford Explorer/Firestone:
http://www.fordexplorerrollover.com/controversy/Default.cfm
http://money.cnn.com/2000/08/29/companies/firestone/

Another GM recall:
http://money.cnn.com/2004/03/18/pf/autos/gm_recall/



Yes, your dad and his great GM company.
 

LordMorpheus

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Minor thing, one can't fault Honda's for reliability, I mean, say what you will, they do last forever.

But I like my domestics.

Just because some Honda fans are vocally irrational about how much US cars suck, its not reason to retaliate in kind.
 

TheLonelyPhoenix

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Originally posted by: hysperion
Originally posted by: TheLonelyPhoenix
Originally posted by: hysperion
The reason japanese cars are considered more reliable is because they are driven by a group of people who generally buy them and drive them leisurely. Most American cars are beat to piss and because of that they have a bad reliability rating. Yes the ricer crowd drives their cars the same way but the ricer crowd isn't that big in comparison. There have been plenty of lemon japanese vehicles- Mazda Rx7's for one. It's also true that Japanese cars generally have less innovation. My dad works for Delphi- he summed it up very well as he used to work with GM but now deals with Toyota: GM wants the latest coolest gadgets and Toyota wants a proven technology and generally uses less innovative parts which leads to less issues.

You just contradicted yourself in the same paragraph. You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable because of the people who drive them (which was a stupid enough statement, given the number of riceboys who beat the piss out of their Civics), then you go on to describe how Toyota only chooses the most reliable and proven technologies for their cars while GM shoves in anything that looks good.

You sir, are a moron. Please stop posting.


Waa Waa Waa did I hit on your parade of mazda that you put in your sig? Mazda makes sh1tty vehicles, look I can link too! http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/lemon_site/sources.htm ....one of the only vehicles I know of that has it's own website dedicated to it being a complete lemon- the mazda rx7. I never said GM shoves in anything that looks good- I said newer technologies- kinda like how it is with computers.....and in your post you said "You say that Japanese cars are only more reliable" Read my post again clown- I never said that was the only reason. Way to be an ignorant flamer.

Look man, I can't help the fact you're an idiot.

You said yourself that Toyota and most Japanese car makers use tried-and-true solutions. There is a reason for that: they are RELIABLE.

The fact you used the RX-7 as an example has nothing to do with the fact you are wrong and should cut your testicles off before you pollute the world with your genetics. Mazda is a. owned by Ford and b. shares a good number of parts with Ford and Volvo.

And if you haven't yet found a website dedicated to how much a particular car model sucks beside one on the RX-7, you definitely haven't been looking hard enough. Or perhaps, like a good little fanboi, you just Googled for Japanese lemons in particular and convienently ignored any of the other ones you might have found.

In other words, please disconnect your computer from the Internet and throw it out the nearest window. then follow up with yourself.

As for the OP, you shouldn't be telling anyone to do their research before "running their mouth", and this thread is proof. You have praised a Ford Escort (which uses a Mazda engine) for its reliablity compared to "jap crap", and then made a trolling thread about a Honda recall when Ford and GM have had numerous recalls for fires starting under the hood, exploding gas tanks (and I don't just mean the Pinto), and so forth.

*waits for the inevitable retaliation of personal, unrelated attacks as the OP expresses his suppressed rage from a history of child abuse*