All unemployed folks under 50 must work for their welfare payments...

[Spungo]

But if such a job is guaranteed...

Don't worry bro. Our government is so incredibly rich that we can afford to give 40-50k to everyone for doing nothing. It's not like the Government Accountability Office has officially declared the US insolvent. Oh, wait, yes it has.

Comparing total 2012 Government assets of $2.7 trillion to total
liabilities of $18.8 trillion yields a negative net position of $16.1
trillion.

Thank god we have a printing press and we can print money to pay for all of this. According to Bernanke and the Keynesians, printing money to pay debts does not cause inflation. Why do we bother collecting taxes if we could just print the money without causing inflation? It's all very complicated. You need a degree from Princeton before you can understand why printing money to pay debts will not cause inflation, but printing money to pay bills will cause inflation.

 

[Zorkorist]

Don't worry bro. Our government is so incredibly rich that we can afford to give 40-50k to everyone for doing nothing. It's not like the Government Accountability Office has officially declared the US insolvent. Oh, wait, yes it has.



Thank god we have a printing press and we can print money to pay for all of this. According to Bernanke and the Keynesians, printing money to pay debts does not cause inflation. Why do we bother collecting taxes if we could just print the money without causing inflation? It's all very complicated. You need a degree from Princeton before you can understand why printing money to pay debts will not cause inflation, but printing money to pay bills will cause inflation.

Post of the day.

-John

 

[Zorba]

I don't know where you live but there is much that needs to be done around me that the government doesn't have the funds for and in our case it is in large part to pay for programs that have no mandated work. No one can lose money on things they aren't doing anyway. Unions will argue against such a plan and care must be taken to not harm the existing labor market, but infrastructure is failing and much of that came from the vWPA and CCA era. Time to examine what's proven to worked here before.

I completely agree with you. I just think if you recreated the WPA to go out and install a ton of sidewalks, corporations are going to go ape, then their puppets will put an end to it. Even if those side walks would never get built otherwise.

 

[Zaap]

Why would corporations care if someone is building sidewalks? Unless of course your business is: making sidewalks. In which case- why wouldn't you be out making sidewalks if there's a ton of sidewalks that need making?

 

[Zorkorist]

Nobody cares.

When Government starts talking about regulating side-walks, you know, you are screwed.

Maybe Government could spend less, bankrupting our nation.

Allowing individuals to succeed.

-John

Never mind it's in our constitution.

If you're having an issue with vBulletin only allowing one sentence per post, resulting in multiple consecutive posts in order to post three sentences, let us know in Technical Forum Issues. For now, I fixed the problem by combining those sentences into one post. -Admin DrPizza

 

[Moonbeam]

Why would corporations care if someone is building sidewalks? Unless of course your business is: making sidewalks. In which case- why wouldn't you be out making sidewalks if there's a ton of sidewalks that need making?

Thanks. I was debating with myself as to how best to point out what a dim wit you are. It was nice of you to do it for me. Don't worry. The reason you have no idea what I'm talking about is the same reason why you don't know what a dim wit it takes to ask your question.

 

[Spungo]

When Government starts talking about regulating side-walks, you know, you are screwed.

Not all regulations are bad. Making the sidewalks consistent makes mobility easier for people in wheelchairs, people using walkers, people on skateboards, people on roller skates, people with arthritis, etc.

 

[Zaap]

Wow, Moonbeam off his meds again.

So delusional he can't tell if he posted something, or if he's pretending to "answer" what someone else posted.

 

[OverVolt]

Wow, Moonbeam off his meds again.

So delusional he can't tell if he posted something, or if he's pretending to "answer" what someone else posted.

I think he hasn't seen an actual person in awhile face to face.

 

[dmcowen674]

Looks like they solved unemployment. Just require everyone unemployed to have a job. Why didn't anyone think of it before? I see an Economics Nobel in Australia's future.

Or England too.

So America's solution is to ship all unemployed to either Australia or England.

 

[sportage]

We have this system here.
Isn't it called working for minimum wage?
McDonalds + $7.50 an hour + food stamps ???
Walmart + $7.50 an hour + food stamps ???
Exxon + $750,000,000.000 + tax payer handouts ???
We have welfare here.

 

[Zorba]

Why would corporations care if someone is building sidewalks? Unless of course your business is: making sidewalks. In which case- why wouldn't you be out making sidewalks if there's a ton of sidewalks that need making?

There are a lot of companies that make sidewalks, where do you think the currently come from?

And they won't build them if they aren't being paid to, because they are in business to make money, not donate sidewalk to a city.

What the WPA did would directly take away potential work from them companies, which would make them pissed off, and they would donate to politicians that would stop it.

It isn't just sidewalks, bridges, parks, playgrounds, etc. used to all be done by the WPA/CCC and are now done by companies.

 

[-slash-]

If we make them work, then they get minimum wage. To pay less is not fair and borders on slavery.

Sarcastic comment

Of course they should be paid at a legal wage.

 

[werepossum]

Sarcastic comment

Of course they should be paid at a legal wage.

Oh, okay.

 

[norseamd]

Australia and America are two society's going in opposite directions. I have family in Australia and they are talking about all the positive effects of shedding socialism, including better work ethic, more productive society and there's a strong political undercurrent to push free market enterprise with the model being of classic America. Cultural Marxists in the political elite of America are still stuck in their 1960s counterculture mindset they were indoctrinated as youths and still trying to turn America into their rendition of the Soviet Union.

Seems Astrallite and his family have far different interpretations of what is going on in Australia than most of the world community.

 

[Zaap]

There are a lot of companies that make sidewalks, where do you think the currently come from?

I said: Unless their business is making sidewalks. Every other business could give a fuck who makes the sidewalk (or whatever else) so long as it lets people get to their business.

So sure, a few businesses may get pissed off, but I seriously doubt there's a big coalition of "sidewalk builders" (or playground builders, or whatever else) that are so powerful they control congress, as was your assertion.

And if a city doesn't have the money to pay businesses that actually know what the fuck they are doing to build things, then it doesn't have money to pay a bunch of welfare-collectors who don't know what they are doing to build things either.

 

[Zorkorist]

Correction.

Welfare Collectors,

Versus Business men.

-John

 

[Zorkorist]

One of these things is a positive impact on society,

the other is a drain on society.

-John

 

[alcoholbob]

Seems Astrallite and his family have far different interpretations of what is going on in Australia than most of the world community.

I didn't know asking lazy people to contribute to society instead of relying on handouts was a progressive socialist idea. Please tell us more about your "world community" socialist principles.

 

[Moonbeam]

I said: Unless their business is making sidewalks. Every other business could give a fuck who makes the sidewalk (or whatever else) so long as it lets people get to their business.

So sure, a few businesses may get pissed off, but I seriously doubt there's a big coalition of "sidewalk builders" (or playground builders, or whatever else) that are so powerful they control congress, as was your assertion.

And if a city doesn't have the money to pay businesses that actually know what the fuck they are doing to build things, then it doesn't have money to pay a bunch of welfare-collectors who don't know what they are doing to build things either.

Hehehehehe Thanks again.