i was skeptical at 1st and didn't want to use DX8 cause a lot of people asid it dropped their benching scores pretty badly... and since 3dfx doesn't even have win ME drivers out for my V3 3500, i was pretty sure it wouldn't support DX8, however, i gave in and had to give it a go... it worked well for me = ) !!!,, it upped my 3d mark scores by roughly 200 3d marks!!! i was getting ~4650 before DX8, now i'm getting around ~4888...so thats a plus one on the "for DX8 side"... he he