All TDK veloCD 16/10/40 = plextors?

jaybert

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Are all the TDK VeloCD 16/10/40's plextors? I was reading how the TDK CyClone 16/10/40 = Sanyos. Anyone know if this is all true?
 

madthumbs

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Is this a sad joke? No one I have ever seen that claimed that one drive = another has ever provided any kind of evidence what so ever. The Plextor 161040a has a fan on the back of the unit. It benches differently than any other drive I've seen. One manufacturer producing drives for another company is one thing but that does not mean they are rebadged or using ALL the same parts.
 

madthumbs

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Sorry, you were the wrong person to jump on. I just get tired of people thinking they're doing people a favor telling them one drive is a rebadged something based on firmware compatibility alone. Not just that but a lot of companies change manufacturers, then people end up returning drives to the store without a valid claim for return.
 

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TDK 12/10/32 = Plextor 12/10/32 = Uses some parts from sanyo.
TDK 16/10/40 = Sanyo 16/10/40
Memorex 12/10/32 = Lite-on 12/10/32 = ???
IOmega 12/10/32 = The old is plextors the later is Sanyo.
 

madthumbs

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Rebadge means same drive/ different face plate. I highly doubt that all the drives that are claimed to be rebadges are just that. I haven't seen another 16*10*40 drive with a fan on the back of it like the Plextor has for instance. I still haven't seen any evidence to support claims... not even credible benchmarks.

OC-Freak;

Do you work in the factory making these drives and see that the only difference is the face plate? Where is your information from, and how credible is it? These are just rumors floating around based on firmware compatibilities as far as I'm concerned. No body has even shown if any of the drives in question are even made in the same factory.
 

mikef208

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Maximum PC did a review of 6 CDRWs and the plex 12x and the TDK 12x scored almost exactly the same. People have opened them up and seen they have the exact same parts inside, plus I have heard from people that say they have worked for TDK and Plextor, that say they are rebadges.
 

Gunbuster

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credible, all you can come up with is "plextor has a fan"

How about rebadged sanyos have the exact same bezel and LED placement as the "real" sanyo. Same with the rebadged plexes.

Rebadged Plexes had TLA#'s on the drive lable just like the real plextors.

They can interchange firmware. Try putting a sanyo firmware on a sony burner and tell us how it goes
 

TungFree

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I burned a flawless data disk on TDK 16x10x40 with a 133mhz pentium one at 16x speed. and my pld Smart and frendly makes errors at 6x often and at 4x on occasion and only 2x was safe.!!!!! get this one !! TDK rocks.
 

madthumbs

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The smartest thing concerning rebadging knowledge would be to find out who is manufacturing for who. When you buy a product that was manufactured by another company for that company you most likely will get inferior quality or have the manufacturer changed on you. This wont happen if you buy from the company doing the manufacturing.

A good example of why you should buy the original is looking at how factories work. Philips Magnavox has a few brands that they manufacture for themselves. Tolerances on parts are evaluated and sorted. Only the best parts are used for their top of the line product, while other acceptable parts are allocated to their cheaper lines of product.

From what I can see the Plextors are competitively priced, and I see little reason for sacrificing peace of mind to save a few dollars.
 

dcdomain

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You think people get rebadged drives just for that?
For example, the TDK 12x and the Plextor 12x... why did I buy the TDK? Better software package. It wasn't just because I wanted to skimp out on a few pennies...
 

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I just bought a TDK VeloCD 16/10/40 and it has a fan on the back of it. It (the fan) appears to be about 1" in diameter, it is in the rear corner of the drive, and the drive is almost an inch longer than a standard length CD ROM drive. I have no idea who makes it or why and I dont care as long as it works like it is supposed to. Jeez, I'll upgrade to a 30/24/75 long before I ever wear the darn thing out anyway.

 

billyjak

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TDK Makes one awesome drive, plextor or not.
TDK = Better software
Plextor = Brand name
Make your decision on the whole bundle.
Both fine drives, that get the job done.
 

Macro2

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My Yugo is a rebadged Mercedes. Don't tell.
Jeezz...if you want a Plextor buy a Plextor.

Mac
 

marcio

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<<Plextor = Brand name>>

It's obvious that Plextor is much more than a brand name, regarding CD drives. If it was only a brand name, people would be buying Plextors. Instead they are looking for other brand of drives that are possibly made by Plextor.
 

Gunbuster

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Now that it seems most drive/firmware makers are getting into bed with the safedisk2 people i expect we will see less of plextor.

Plextor was king of &quot;backups&quot; but now?
 

CliffC

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cdrlabs has some good info an the subject and does some really good testing too. I got the A-Open 1232(12x10x32) and it rocks.
 

bomb99

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my tdk 16/10/40 have a fan on the back and it have a TLA #
this drive is way better than the ghetto yamah 16/10/40
 

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According to this statement, it's not a fan.

<< Unlike the Plextor it does not have a fan. At first I was hoping that round vent had a fan behind it but after closer examination it was just a plain vent. >>

cdrlabs

Unless he was unlucky?
 

madthumbs

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Well, earlier reports were stating that the fan was absent on the TDK 16x model. There is a nice benchmark comparison here; http://cdrlabs.com/review.php3?reviewid=27&amp;page=Features. I have heard of major problems with TDK's DAE on thier 16x drive. I agree that TDK is a good brand, has a slightly better software package, may be a bit cheaper, but; Plextor generally benches better, software can be replaced easier than a drive, and the software actually seems to be coming of age anyway. Plextor isn't known for having any problems and you know what your getting if you choose this drive. It's already apparent that TDK may have switched manufacturers already if some are coming with fans now. Honestly I was considering a TDK when I got my Plexwriter, but I'm happy with my decision and peace of mind.
 

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The VeloCD 16/10/40 in the cdrlabs review is different than my 16/10/40. My fan vent is in the rear corner of the drive and I saw fan blades behind the vent. Also, the drive they picture has 2 leds on the front of it whereas my drive has only one led that changes from green to amber when the drive is writing data. I think there may be 2 different manufacturers in play here.

News flash: The Plextor 16/10/40 pictures at this link

Plextor review with pictures

look identical to my TDK VeloCD purchased 3 days ago at Compuas. The faceplate obviously does not match, but the single led (in the same position on my TDK drive), and the fan in the rear corner of the drive match mine exactly. Strange, huh?
 

bomb99

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my TDK drive look identical to the plextor on the cdrlabs

even the TLA# is the same. If anyoen is interested i'll take some pictures of it and post it when i get home later tonight.