All Republican Senators Voted Against PayGo?

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Xellos2099

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Mar 8, 2005
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History has shown that increasing tax rate often lead to decrease in tax revenue. Prime example, Chicago.
 

cubby1223

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May 24, 2004
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The latest debacle in Chicago has been the increased sales tax, which just drove people to do their major shopping outside of the city, or through the internet. It's really been hurting businesses while reducing revenues. They keep trying to repeal it, they pass through the repeal, then it gets vetoed, and they keep falling just short of overriding the veto.
 

Ozoned

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You're the one making the errors, some of which are 'logic'.

Here's the government, do anything you want! Just note that the budget items out of your control GUARANTEE massive increases in reaction to the financial crisis with built in triggers, and the need for massive funds for preventing a worse crash just mean you can't spend a cent on the programs you would like in a normal economy.

And you can do anything you want with 60 members! You can afford for a whole zero of them not to agree with you, with loyal members like Joe Liebermann who was the planned Republican nominee for VP against you. Get 55 votes in favor of your bill - just know that means it doesn't pass, until you get the last few to agree, whatever the compromises they demand, because the Republicans wil tun their tiny minority of 40 into the most obstructionist minority in history, vetoing every bill they like with an agenda to keep you from getting anything passed good for the nation that will help you in the election.

No problem, piece of cake, no one to blame but Obama.

One 'bad' Democrat, with 40 obstructionist Republicans who abused the filibuster as a veto on anything, could block the passage of any bill. For that one bad Democrat, the blame is all the Democratic party?

You can make the case for blaming the corporatist Dems who joined Repubicans more easily than you can make the argument one bad Dem is the party's fault.

You are not saying one bad word about the 40 Republicans setting new records in obstructionism and abusing the filibuster. Without that, the Senate would pass a lot.

Soon to be 41. Why don't you go somewhere else and build your utopian country and leave mine the way it is?

Just kidding. I know you can't, without taking other peoples funds...
 

Robor

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The repubs voted against establishing a bi-partisan commission on deficit reduction, including 6 repubs who were orginally sponsors of the idea. They voted against PayGo. They don't want to have to actually pay for their own pet spending projects, whether it is new entitlement programs or foreign wars. They will never vote to reduce spending on the military, social security, medicare, or to raise taxes to reduce the deficit. When are people going to wake up about the true record of repubs on fiscal responsibility. Opposing earmarks is not "fiscal responsibility"; it's a fig leaf nod to the concept of it only. They are bankrupt of ideas or political will to reduce the deficit.

- wolf

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werepossum

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Hell I don't know. If you knew your party was going to loose their majority, why wouldn't you do things to limit your replacements???

Admittedly it would be amusing if the Dems did something to limit spending that actually forced the Pubbies to be fiscally responsible when they take over. I just don't see today's Dems doing anything more than lip service and smoke and mirrors to control government spending, though. It would be like the Pope announcing a new plan to limit the power of the Church.