All of you "NICE GUYS" should read this!!! Maybe this could help or answer some questions

[schdaddy]

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[conjur]

Fixed link

 

[Novgrod]

Haha, if that helps anyone, the pseudo-man being assisted has bigger problems than can be fixed by would-be intelligent women

 

[nihil]

i'm not sure what to make of this.

 

[Czar]

I think its because the more women you date the worse you get, so all the nice guys out there who are drowning in a sea of women will eventialy turn bad unless some woman ties herself to him.

our time will come

 

[schdaddy]

after reading this:

You hear it all the time: "He was such a NICE Guy, and she's such a Heartless Bitch for dumping him."

I get letters from self-professed Nice Guys, complaining that women must WANT to be treated like sh!t, because THEY, the "Nice Guy" have failed repeatedly in relationships. This is akin to the false logic that "Whales are mammals. Whales live in the sea. Therefore, all mammals live in the sea."

If you have one bad relationship after another, the only common denominator is YOU. Think about it.



i thought of all those annoying POST here on ATOT

 

[Novgrod]

Well, the sort of babe posts that are made around here are sort of playing into the heartless bitch's hands. The question is why a self-professed nice guy, if he is as he claims, would whine to a woman who isn't herself nice.

Nice people deserve nice people, not necessarily attractive people

Then again, I could be entirely wrong.

 

[XMan]

<< You hear it all the time: "He was such a NICE Guy, and she's such a Heartless Bitch for dumping him."

I get letters from self-professed Nice Guys, complaining that women must WANT to be treated like sh!t, because THEY, the "Nice Guy" have failed repeatedly in relationships. This is akin to the false logic that "Whales are mammals. Whales live in the sea. Therefore, all mammals live in the sea."

If you have one bad relationship after another, the only common denominator is YOU. Think about it. >>

I wouldn't say that any of the relationships I've had with "heartless bitches" have failed, per se, it's just that they want to keep me around as a security blanket while they hang out with Spike, their motorcycle riding felon. When Spike smacks her around or won't buy her that new sweater she's wanting, she schloms over to the Nice Guy.

So basically I just look at it like I'm gonna enjoy spending my money on what I want. If a woman comes along eventually who doesn't want to hang out with Spike on the side, cool.

Besides . . . I've heard too many horror stories from divorced friends about how their wives took them to cleaners after sitting on their hineys for years and not doing anything. Oh, you stayed home for 10 years and now you think you're entitled to half of my 401(K)? Don't think so!



<< These are the REAL MEN. Most attractive to women, highly successful in life. Frequently have careers they can't talk about, and incidents they won't admit to. Always one steps ahead of the law and past lovers. Rarely marry, unless in politics, but frequently leave children behind to be raised by lesser males. >>



Oh, yeah, that's a real man.

 

[Siddhartha]

I have solved this problem by only spending time with women who like me and who I like.

 

[yllus]

I don't like that site. Anyone can recieve a letter and tear into it by going sentence by sentence. Very lame.

However, I do agree wholeheartedly with the below article.

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For all the "nice guy" losers out there, here are some things that you need to get through your thick skull before you complain about women who abuse you because of your "nice guy" image. Read on, study and learn, before you die a virgin:

1. Women are human. They are not goddesses to whom you must surrender every ounce of your will in order to receive affection. Try having a spine for a change.

2. Don't spend every waking hour around, on the phone with, or tailing behind your lady. Get some friends for chrissakes.

3. Saying "I love you" is fine. Saying it every 2 seconds is not.

4. Same for "I need you" (or any similar emotion-leeching comments)

5. Rule 3 goes double for crying.

6. Some women have very complex psychological problems. Same said women are beyond your rehabilitative capabilities. Save your attention for someone sane enough to appreciate it.

7. Never EVER assume that a second date means that you're hoplessly in love with each other. It just means that you are not a rapist, stalker, blatant chauvinist, or completely unattractive.

8. There are women who will flirt with you, get you to buy them drinks, dinner, or gifts (depending on how clueless you actually are) and unceremoniously dump you when they are done with you. Get real, get over it, and don't let it happen again.

9. Don't answer a question with "I don't care", if you really do.

10. Above all else, COMMUNICATE! If you have a problem, disagree, or just feel like something is bugging you, tell her! How can you fix something if you are the only person who knows that it's broken? THINK man, think. It will always save trouble in the end.

Now, i'm not saying that being a spineless wuss is bad, just that it is as unattractive as being the self-centered, muscle-brained pretty boy who swears that all women live for him and him only. Being a total gentleman is good; having tire tracks up your backside & feeling like roadkill all the time isn't. Take heed, and live well.

 

[Zenmervolt]

My first thought on seeing that site was "BINGO!". The problem I see with nice guys is the same problem I used to have but am now working on fixing: they are too freakin' timid. So what if you get shot down? All getting shot down does is move you one step closer to the point when you won't get shot down. Also, quit whining about the "friend zone". If you enjoy the friendship, then enjoy it for what it is, don't bitch and moan because it's not something else. Just talk to women, have conversations, and treat them like any other person who is important to you. Quit complaining and making the rest of us look bad.

ZV

 

[kt]

i think that hit the nail right in the head... next time, a self-professed "nice guy" comes to me with his whining, I know where to point him to now. who knows, maybe pouring an ice cold bucket of water over his head is just the right remedy to wake him up from his "nice guy" state.

 

[Moonbeam]

Real love is almost non existant. What we have are vacuum cleaners sucking off vacuum cleaners. Sometimes people's neurotic needs are fulfilled by a compatably neurotic mate. It's not a question of nice guys or bad guys or nice girls and bad girls. The problem is that we hate ourselves and look to other people to fill the void in our self respect that that should be filled by being OK with yourself. All the problems in relationships come from testing to see if we are loved and then turning the person who passes the test into a fool because they are so stupid that they can't see how worthless we are. All tests are designed for the other person to fail. Anybody who loves me is a fool because I'm wortless and I'll prove both. We are black holes among whom occassionally walks a sun.

"But in the end, the love you take, is equal to the love you make." A song

 

[LordMaul]

<< Nice guys who, upon getting a girlfriend, feel they "don't really deserve her". This is insulting. If you don't think you are worth something special, then what you are telling her is that SHE picked a loser.

Nice guys who put women on pedestals. By worshipping her, you objectify and demean her.
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MMMMKAY. What-the-fusk-ever.

 

[Rudee]

Good read there.

 

[linuxboy]

our time will come

Just make sure you're not dead when it does.


Cheers !

 

[Orsorum]

I have to say, I do agree with a lot of what she had to say. I don't agree with the way she wiped those responses, line by line (therefore taking a LOT of what they had to say out of context), but there was some truth in her words.