All lives matter BOOED! Only black lives matter.

[fskimospy]

Maybe you guys should read this:

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/20/9003233/all-lives-matter-black

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Gee, a white politician co-opting a phrase that was borne out of unarmed black people routinely dying at the hands of police and these damned racist black people have the nerve to boo? It's like those uppity gays who didn't like my "straight pride" flag at their march. No idea why they're so unsupportive of my struggles.

This thread has already ticked the "blacks are the real racists" and "feminists literally want all men to die" boxes; can we find a way to shoehorn in something about the lazy poors and go for the Conservative lunatic social agenda trifecta?

 

[Jaskalas]

Racist extremists get angry over a Democrat Presidential candidate saying "All lives matter".

And some of you show true intentions when defending that outrage.

 

[fskimospy]

Racist extremists get angry over a Democrat Presidential candidate saying "All lives matter".

And some of you show true intentions when defending that outrage.

What are their true intentions, specifically?

 

[waggy]

Poor white people. You truly are the oppressed minority you think you are.

Now here is a strew-man argument!

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Racist extremists get angry over a Democrat Presidential candidate saying "All lives matter".

And some of you show true intentions when defending that outrage.

Maybe because the phrase was intended to support the very specific movement addressed at bringing awareness of police violence against unarmed black suspects and the systemic racial prejudices that underlie such actions in police departments around the United States? It's not inclusive of all races because all races are not facing the same odds of getting killed by a police officer for essentially no reason. Tacking on "white lives matter" distracts from the message of "black people are being murdered by police" (whether or not you agree with that statement is a different issue, but that's the point of the campaign).

Why do rich, white, heterosexual Christian men get so offended when a movement doesn't include them?

 

[dank69]

Maybe you guys should read this:

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/20/9003233/all-lives-matter-black

Since the circle-jerkers aren't going to bother reading that I'll post up some relevant analogies made in it:

#BlackLivesMatter doesn't mean other lives don't. Like people who say "Save The Rainforests" aren't saying "Fuck All Other Types of Forests"

Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

 

[nageov3t]

social movements work by targeting specific issues.

 

[Spungo]

Poor white people. You truly are the oppressed minority you think you are.

Men are the current oppressed minority:
-Zero reproductive rights.
-Zero protection against sexual assault and mayhem.
-Zero protection from domestic abuse, which the CDC says happens to men more often than women. This is one that really bothers me because my brother was a victim of domestic violence and he couldn't do shit to stop it. All his borderline personality girlfriend had to say was "he threatened me" and my brother would be thrown out of his own house. It doesn't matter that it's his house and his girlfriend's name is not on any of the paper work. If you're a guy, you're automatically the criminal, and your stuff will be given to the nearest woman. God help you if you're also black. You'll be lucky if the cops don't kill you and your dog just for the lulz (then claim you shot yourself in the head while handcuffed in the back of a police car). I also have a cousin who was forced to pay child support for a child that wasn't his. That's the punishment for dating a single mother. This is what institutionalized hatred of men looks like.
-Falling behind in child support payments can lead to life in prison. You get 30 days in jail each month until the back payments are made, which is impossible because you couldn't work while locked up, so it means life in jail. This is the reason the suicide rate among men rises sharply around age 40. When faced with the threat of life in jail, a lot of men choose death. It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees.


I feel like I constantly need to protect my brother from crazy women. As a man, he's completely defenseless. The police won't help him, lawyers won't help him, the government won't help him, and other men can't help him. It almost feels like that cliche of men being afraid of their girlfriend's brothers, but reversed. Women need to be afraid of my brother's little sister ()

 

[glenn1]

Gee, a white politician co-opting a phrase that was borne out of unarmed black people routinely dying at the hands of police and these damned racist black people have the nerve to boo? It's like those uppity gays who didn't like my "straight pride" flag at their march. No idea why they're so unsupportive of my struggles.

This thread has already ticked the "blacks are the real racists" and "feminists literally want all men to die" boxes; can we find a way to shoehorn in something about the lazy poors and go for the Conservative lunatic social agenda trifecta?

It's origin doesn't really matter. Most people would be inherently gracious enough to allow a sentiment intended for their specific cause to be used for people generally. That is after all why they're called "human rights" and not narrow-slice-of-humanity rights. Of course a more adept politician than O'Malley might have been better at using the original phrase first then expanding upon it, but that's beside the point.

To be sure there's analogues to this on every side. I'm sure a similar shit storm of boos would have occurred had one of the GOP candidates gone to an evangelical meeting and said "I believe this country was founded on Judeo-Christian values - and Muslim values, and Hindu values, and Sikh values..."

 

[Angry Irishman]

Maybe you guys should read this:

http://www.vox.com/2015/7/20/9003233/all-lives-matter-black

From the posted: Do activists really believe that only black lives matter? No, of course they don't.

Yea right, maybe not all involved but it seems pretty obvious from watching the video that many felt exactly the opposite. You know what? Many folks black and white folks are offended by the militant BS and subsequent looting and rioting all in the name of "black lives matter".

All lives do matter.....period.

 

[thraashman]

Maybe because the phrase was intended to support the very specific movement addressed at bringing awareness of police violence against unarmed black suspects and the systemic racial prejudices that underlie such actions in police departments around the United States? It's not inclusive of all races because all races are not facing the same odds of getting killed by a police officer for essentially no reason. Tacking on "white lives matter" distracts from the message of "black people are being murdered by police" (whether or not you agree with that statement is a different issue, but that's the point of the campaign).

Why do rich, white, heterosexual Christian men get so offended when a movement doesn't include them?

Because conservatives need to find some new way to claim they're being oppressed and the victim in the hopes that it distracts you from them oppressing others. The only people it distracts are the extremely fucking stupid though, so only other conservatives.

 

[fskimospy]

From the posted: Do activists really believe that only black lives matter? No, of course they don't.

Yea right, maybe not all involved but it seems pretty obvious from watching the video that many felt exactly the opposite. You know what? Many folks black and white folks are offended by the militant BS and subsequent looting and rioting all in the name of "black lives matter".

All lives do matter.....period.

I don't think that it's at all 'pretty obvious' that many felt that only black lives matter, especially if you read the whole piece.

They were reacting negatively to a conservative talking point explicitly designed to trivialize the 'black lives matter' slogan that was inadvertently echoed by O'Malley.

 

[JSt0rm]

#gamersgate #sjw

Imagine how bad these conservatives would feel if they were the oppressed minority on the planet. lmao. Id say black people take it pretty good considering how badly you all have your panties ruffled from this minor offense to your sensibilities.

 

[PokerGuy]

It certainly not a coincidence that many in the BLM movment are such racists as to not allow people to attend meetings based on the color of their skin.

O'Malley and Bernie should have been aware that they were dealing with a bunch of racists. Clearly in their view only some lives matter, not all of them.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Here's the problem or at least much of it.....

All too many people can think of is in terms of conservative, liberal, black, white.....when did the term American stop being relevant?

The term African American makes not sense at all. Should everyone with ancestors from Europe use their politically correct titles? Hi, I'm Irish American.

 

[BoberFett]

LOL, identity politics. It's the new left wing strategy to keep everyone fighting each other.

 

[Angry Irishman]

Since the circle-jerkers aren't going to bother reading that I'll post up some relevant analogies made in it:

Then why not include everyone and say all lives matter? Does one life matter more than another? I don't know how using a singular race and stating it matters doesn't imply otherwise especially when frothing and spitting when someone states all lives matter.

 

[thraashman]

#gamersgate #sjw

Imagine how bad these conservatives would feel if they were the oppressed minority on the planet. lmao. Id say black people take it pretty good considering how badly you all have your panties ruffled from this minor offense to your sensibilities.

I don't think you even have to imagine. Just look at how they react to things like marriage equality or when Obama tried to prevent people from making bullshit claims about religious exemptions to laws. If they think other groups might get Equal rights they scream and whine and complain like it'd be the end of the world. If conservatives were to ever actually have their rights oppressed to the level of minorities, I can guarantee you the reactions we saw in places like Baltimore would look like children playing a game in comparison. Nobody is as self centered and self important as a conservative and if you weaken their privilege, no one is as childish.

 

[Michael]

All lives should matter
Blacks are part of All
Black lives should matter is a true statement and does not refute the first statement. There is nothing there that says they should matter more.

Booing the first statement looks bad and plays right into people that want to make a point of it.

Arguing this is a waste of time. Some black activists are racist. Most are not, they are just advocating for a minority that is obviously still disadvantaged.

The whole US society rest on the idea that:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

It is pretty easy to prove that black are disadvantaged and that the government is failing to provide for basic rights.

Stupid arguments like proposed by the OP does not help.

Labeling it "strawman circle jerk" also does not help.

Michael

 

[dank69]

Then why not include everyone and say all lives matter? Does one life matter more than another? I don't know how using a singular race and stating it matters doesn't imply otherwise especially when frothing and spitting when someone states all lives matter.

Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

 

[dank69]

All lives should matter
Blacks are part of All
Black lives should matter is a true statement and does not refute the first statement. There is nothing there that says they should matter more.

Booing the first statement looks bad and plays right into people that want to make a point of it.

Arguing this is a waste of time. Some black activists are racist. Most are not, they are just advocating for a minority that is obviously still disadvantaged.

The whole US society rest on the idea that:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."

It is pretty easy to prove that black are disadvantaged and that the government is failing to provide for basic rights.

Stupid arguments like proposed by the OP does not help.

Labeling it "strawman circle jerk" also does not help.

Michael

Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

 

[Angry Irishman]

Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

Oh I get it but it seems that the message of Martin Luther King no longer matters. The message being conveyed isn't solving the problem.

 

[fskimospy]

Imagine that you're sitting down to dinner with your family, and while everyone else gets a serving of the meal, you don't get any. So you say "I should get my fair share." And as a direct response to this, your dad corrects you, saying, "everyone should get their fair share." Now, that's a wonderful sentiment -- indeed, everyone should, and that was kinda your point in the first place: that you should be a part of everyone, and you should get your fair share also. However, dad's smart-ass comment just dismissed you and didn't solve the problem that you still haven't gotten any!

Or you could just always keep chanting 'everyone should get their fair share' and hope that eventually people realize that you're referring to yourself.

Or you could just come straight out and say what they problem is, of course.

I have been to, but not participated in, several such protests in NYC. I have never once heard a single person argue that black lives mattered MORE than other lives. Only that they shouldn't matter LESS.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Then why not include everyone and say all lives matter? Does one life matter more than another? I don't know how using a singular race and stating it matters doesn't imply otherwise especially when frothing and spitting when someone states all lives matter.

Because unarmed white people aren't being killed by the police. Why on Earth would a movement specifically dedicated to the high number of unarmed minorities being killed by police seek to include white people who aren't being victimized by the police to anything approaching the same degree? Is it literally just about including everyone in your movement so no one feels left out? Talk about political correctness run amok; can't even have a movement without including everybody!