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All in one pc for gaming?

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The one you build yourself will be the best...

SSD drives seem to be really good for online gaming as well...
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I am not to much of a tech guy and somewhat of a newb. I wanted to get a all in one that I could put in the family room and wanted to know are or is there a all in one pc that is a good gaming pc. I tried to google reviews but could not find many good or bad. Thanks for the feedback.
 
What do you mean by "all in one"?

If you just mean a desktop built by someone else, then yes you can buy them from Alienware, Cyberpower, Newegg, even Dell with a graphics card upgrade.

If you mean something special like a tiny PC, or that does other "stuff" then you need to tell us what that other stuff is. There are custom builders that do that too, but you'll pay more.
 
I think he's talking about those imac style everything-built-into-the-monitor PCs.

Ugh. There's no way I'd buy one of those for gaming. They're not upgradable and you'll be paying a hefty premium for the form-factor, especially if they managed to stuff some decent hardware into it.

I see that the imac itself comes in variants that include an HD 5750 1gb...for $2000.00. That's about as much graphics card as I would expect to find in any all-in-one. The best dell's got is an HD5470 in their inspiron 2305, but at least it's only $1200. Sony's got a Viao all-in-one with an nvidia 330M graphics chip. I'm not as familiar with nvidia's products, but a quick look around the internet seems to indicate that it'll play most games on medium settings. Problem is that the models that include that chip start at $1600. HP doesn't have anything to speak of. That's most of the major players, but I'd imagine you could find more capable all-in-ones from more specialized builders. They would all carry commensurately specialized price as well though.

So that's what you get when you insist on an all-in-one...high end price for mediocre hardware. For the price of any of them you could build a gaming pc that's 3 times as powerful and upgradable to boot. But I guess the all-in-ones look pretty cool. I personally wouldn't go that route for gaming even if I had the money to spare.
 
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The iMacs are probably the best once you get Windows installed, but they're very expensive. Most of them use mobile GPUs to keep heat down. If size is a concern, there are smaller form factors available apart from full size desktops. A micro-ATX board would work great.
 
Basically, it all comes down to standards. My MacBook Pro can "play" games on it's integrated 8600M, but I wouldn't say it's great for playing anything over 720p on low-medium settings at a normally 20 or below framerate. Most "All in One" pcs have Core 2 Duos or i series dual cores that are clocked to run in a notebook, so they have slow clocks. Ram normally maxes out at 4GB, which isn't bad, but it is expensive laptop memory. So if you want high end gaming at 1080p, no. If you want low-med graphics at 720p, likely yes.
 
Davidh373 said:
Basically, it all comes down to standards. My MacBook Pro can "play" games on it's integrated 8600M, but I wouldn't say it's great for playing anything over 720p on low-medium settings at a normally 20 or below framerate. Most "All in One" pcs have Core 2 Duos or i series dual cores that are clocked to run in a notebook, so they have slow clocks. Ram normally maxes out at 4GB, which isn't bad, but it is expensive laptop memory. So if you want high end gaming at 1080p, no. If you want low-med graphics at 720p, likely yes.
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Mini Tower, Mobo that fits with onboard HQ Audio, Video Card, 4 Core CPU, 4gb ram, good wireless keyboard/mouse(trackball if on couch).
 
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There you go all in one
 
It's not what most of us would consider to be a good gaming rig, but...

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It's far from being a "Gaming PC," but it should play most games with mediocre settings.
 
My 2009 iMac 21.5" plays everything I throw at it...well games I'm interested in.

Core2duo 3.06ghz, 6gb 1066mhz ram and a Radeon 4670.

Star craft 2 on max, counterstrike at max, portal, c&c3..erm....company of heroes not so good at medium.

So I dare say a brand new iMac with corei3 or i5 and a Radeon 5xxx and 1333mhz ram would be a lot better!

Sometimes some games can look just as good at high as they do at max. As long as its playable and doesn't look like ass then you're good to go 🙂
 
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My 2009 iMac 21.5" plays everything I throw at it...well games I'm interested in.

Core2duo 3.06ghz, 6gb 1066mhz ram and a Radeon 4670.

Star craft 2 on max, counterstrike at max, portal, c&c3..erm....company of heroes not so good at medium.

So I dare say a brand new iMac with corei3 or i5 and a Radeon 5xxx and 1333mhz ram would be a lot better!

Sometimes some games can look just as good at high as they do at max. As long as its playable and doesn't look like ass then you're good to go 🙂
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But once you go Mac you lose out on many of today's popular games.
 
Install windows, problem solved.

I get the benefit of having a sleek computer that does everything I want/need and still remain faithful Windows. I'll never go "all the way" to only use OSX as I'm not a foolhardy mactard. I use what works for me 🙂
 
iMacs are really expensive for what you get, and I'm not positive, but I believe the 4670 to be the mobile version, and thusly it will not handle full 1080p HD gaming (maybe even 720p). You also say Company of Heroes doesn't run well... which is by no means as graphics hungry as most modern games... Apple sucks... (honestly, not trolling you, it's the truth).
 
It takes an AMD 6850 with an Intel Core i7-920 @ 3.33GHz to push SC:II at 60FPS on highest settings in 1920x1080, the cheapest iMac at $1,199.00 has 3.06GHz Intel Core i3 and an ATI Radeon HD 4670 with 256MB, there is no way in hell this thing is going to be pushing SC:II at max. If we take $1,200 and build a PC with it however we can probably even fit in a GTX 570 and an SB 2500k if we find stuff on sale. Lacking that we can at least get in a gtx 460 and SB which will push 60FPS at max. (in SC:II)
 
> If we take $1,200 and build a PC with it however we can probably even fit in a GTX 570 and an SB 2500k if we find stuff on sale.

That Cyberpower above is $1,060 with a GTX 460, but no monitor. Prebuilt, legal copy of Windows. Once Sandy Bridge is back in April they'll have a SB quad core 2500K model for about the same price.

Apple makes great hardware, I use a Mini at work for testing our Map apps. If they had one with a blu-ray drive it would be a perfect little playback HTPC.

What Apple does not make are good gaming PCs. A 5670 is not a very good gaming card, especially with what you're paying for that iMac.
 
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As long as FPS is above 30 then I'm not bothered. The mobile 4670 handles the games I care about at high to max.
It all depends on what people want. I wanted a clean looking computer with one cable, the power cable. Vie gone off having big hulking boxes and billions of wires.

I am tempted to make myself an itx ivy bridge however next year.

I'm no defender of Apple, however sometimes people forget that the highest graphics cards of a few years ago are now cheapest today, and they can still kick arse. We don't need to have games with 20xAA at 103FPS.
They can still be enjoyable with 4xAA at 32.7FPS on a 5670.
 
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