All Hell Done Broke Loose Now

[sandorski]

Maybe Canada can offer a deal to any states that want to secede and immediately join a new union.

As a Canadian I have a few problems with such a thing:

1) If Canada does such a thing, other States may try to take them and Canada back in vengeance. Any intervention/involvement from Canada becomes potential meddling. I would like to think we would choose our actions based upon Principles, but Prudence is often the best policy.

2) Due to population differences, whatever it would be, an Annex/Partnering with US States results in something that is not Canada. There are aspects of "American" that I have no interest in. However, such a thing does open an opportunity.

I think it's best for US States to join together first before going further. Rushing into something seems likely to be problematic over time.

 

[dank69]

As a Canadian I have a few problems with such a thing:

1) If Canada does such a thing, other States may try to take them and Canada back in vengeance. Any intervention/involvement from Canada becomes potential meddling. I would like to think we would choose our actions based upon Principles, but Prudence is often the best policy.

2) Due to population differences, whatever it would be, an Annex/Partnering with US States results in something that is not Canada. There are aspects of "American" that I have no interest in. However, such a thing does open an opportunity.

I think it's best for US States to join together first before going further. Rushing into something seems likely to be problematic over time.

I figure you could just nibble the coasts. New England down to maybe Virginia and the whole west coast. We get your healthcare system, you get our economy. Win win.

 

[MrSquished]

I figure you could just nibble the coasts. New England down to maybe Virginia and the whole west coast. We get your healthcare system, you get our economy. Win win.

Anything is better than being stuck with the GQP. Let's do it

 

[sandorski]

I figure you could just nibble the coasts. New England down to maybe Virginia and the whole west coast. We get your healthcare system, you get our economy. Win win.

Ok

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Ok

If the coastal Blues could just seize North Dakota for the Bakken Shale, with an adjustment to Idaho, possibly Montana.

But if you don't get Arizona, you don't as easily get New Mexico.

This is all hard to sort out. Call in General Maximus! He knows!

 

[BoomerD]

Maybe Canada can offer a deal to any states that want to secede and immediately join a new union.

I doubt they'd take the red states...plus...you know, geography...and the northern states...why would they want to become Canucks and pay the insane taxes...even for health insurance?

 

[Leeea]

It will not be so clean.

Parts of states will break off. CA is not entirely blue, Texas is not entirely red.

It will be done county by county. Some counties will be isolated. Others will throw their lot in opposite of their blue/red allegiance for practical reasons. The final map is likely to be unpredictable.

 

[ondma]

Snapshot of the news for today one would think all hell done broke loose now.
Abortion banned at six weeks in Texas and soon to be in most 50 states, or at least the "red" states.

General Motors is shutting down it's north American plants. WHAT???
Automobile production is a stable of the US economy. In 2008 Obama saved the automobile industry by handing out bailouts, and potential car buyers were offered $4000 for any old trade-in. Saving the industry was a big deal back then, and quite important.

Covid cases are still rising, the delta variant still dominates while many people still refuse to get vaccinated.
And the wearing of masks? Don't even go there.

Afghanistan is still in a royal mess with Americans trapped and unable to get out.

And to boot, this Donald Trump US Supreme Court is certainly earning their paycheck plus making the evangelists all happy campers.
Rachel Maddow is having a major meltdown on TV due to the new Texas abortion law. And I thought Rachel like babies?

While through all this, Joe Biden is still president, the poor guy.
How will Joe ever survive THIS?
How more energized could the Trumpians be with this Trump court acting like a bulldozer out of control, and democrats helpless to do anything about it, and the 2022 midterms just around the corner.

And as for Donald Trump? He suddenly falls quiet. Trump doesn't have to say anything. He's winning and he isn't even breaking a sweat.
It is truly like the calm before the storm?

I don't know....
But the least that can be said is that all hell done broke loose now.
Infrastructure and voter equality has all but disappeared and shoved to the back burner.
Democrats don't know what the hell is going on yet alone what direction to turn.
Republicans are downright giddy.
And everything out there is just downright WEIRD, to say the least.
Yep folks, all hell done broke loose now.

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I think the draconian anti-abortion laws may backfire, much like Pence's efforts against gays back in the day. You are pretty much right on everything else though.
Biden is in deep political trouble, and it will most likely carry over into the mid terms where Republicans could easily win both houses. And for 2024 the dems are faced with running an 80+ y.o. Biden or Kamala Harris. Yikes!!

Edit: I really thought Kamala would shine as VP. She seems intelligent and well spoken. Somehow though, she seems to be either AWOL or sticking her foot in her mouth at every turn. The Dems desperately need a better candidate in 2024 than either Biden or Harris, but assuming Biden doesn't run, I dont know if they have the cahones to find a new nominee.

 

[ondma]

I doubt they'd take the red states...plus...you know, geography...and the northern states...why would they want to become Canucks and pay the insane taxes...even for health insurance?

Naw, I would rather pay 700.00 per month (group rate no less) for a shitty insurance plan that could still leave me responsible for 15k in deductibles and co-pays if both my wife and I had serious medical procedures.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I'm waiting for Duhsantis to dress like Elvis and declare himself as the king....

 

[jp7794]

I am pretty much every day on the news, seldom hit the THC. Maybe if I do it more I will appreciate it more.

You won't appreciate the news any more. You just won't care as much about it.

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[Muse]

They were all great songs. I'm not sure which I favor the most. Illegal Smile got my attention, because of its humor. But "Sam Stone" still really puts a hook in me. It has renewed meaning at the end of our futile 20-year war. The one that grabs me the most these days, as I take care of my 96-year-old Moms, is "Hello In There". Powerful! "You know old trees just grow stronger . . . Old rivers grow wilder every day . . . Old people just grow lonesome . . . Waiting for someone to say . . . Hello-o-o-o . . in there . . . "

So yeah -- those lyrics are every bit as great as Dylan's.

I've got many good arguments supporting what some would call my "substance abuse." It helps with arthritic pain. Some people use it for sleep disorders. It was supposed to help with glaucoma. There may be a dozen applications, and I think the CBD derivative has pronounced effect with seizures caused by epilepsy. But it's also a good mood drug. Some sports celebrity insisted that it was good for treating the onset of Alzheimers. Somehow, that last assessment seems counter-intuitive.

Back in 1969, the top-star physics major at my university -- call her Sherri -- had the best legs on campus. We had a date, and she told me she liked to smoke weed when she did her physics homework -- making it even more enjoyable. Interview some artists and musicians.

I may have a goblet of Cabernet every several days. I may smoke vape THC every couple days. But it doesn't matter whether you're high or "straight" when watching Trump and Co. on TV. It's going to piss you off anyway. It only matters if you turn off the TV and go out on the patio for some fresh air, and to inhale . . . while contemplating the lights and landscape to the other side of the San Bernardino valley.

Actually, I think doing it less frequently makes for a "more profound experience". I just wish I could grow a plant or two. I consume maybe 4 to 6 oz of high-grade flowers in a year's time. My friend in another state is legally allowed to grow as much as he wants in his backyard. He tells me you could probably get 17 oz of good flowers from a single plant. But while I'm allowed six plants in California, the local city ordinance demands that you only grow the plants indoors! And they enforce that ordinance with fines.

It's OK if I call up a dispensary and ask them to deliver 2 or 3 oz of buds to my doorstep, but I can't plant a feminized seedling in my private (very private) garden. I could probably purloin a single plant among my tomato vines, but I'm still thinking about it. I could even germinate some seeds before December, but I'd still be just thinking about it.

But back to the OP topic. There are so many things gone bad all at once this year, you wonder if the world will ever return to what it was. Or are we sliding down a shitty water slide into a big toilet of grief? Are these the End Times? Why don't the deniers climb on board and help us postpone it? We went to the freaking moon, for chrissake!

Back in the 1970's I grew some pot indoors. I still have that stash! Somehow I didn't get off on it, maybe it went bad. It was gorgeous and filled my place with an amazing smell.

Grow lights! It wasn't difficult. Of course, it was some work. I used aluminum foil to better utilize the light. Sounds like you could do that and legally.

4-6oz/year! A friend laid some weed on me that she and hubby (probably him) grew in their yard, maybe a couple years ago. I've barely touched it. It seems like real good stuff, the guy knew what he was doing, what seeds he had. I don't remember the strain, it's on one of the two bottles.

I always like Prine but I'm not super familiar with his work. I've probably heard those songs you mention. There are few artists whose work I have a full appreciation of. As a college radio DJ I figure my job is to put on a great show, not know everything about any particular artist, what all they've done and what they're doing.

I was a physics major for the first 2+ years of my university experience. I was really good at it and had a philosphical attitude concerning it as integral to my life trajectory. However the upper division courses I was taking seemed to divorce the science from sensory experience and I lost interest. It was becoming too abstract. Other things caught my interest. I'd take whatever courses interested me. Then the university became strict about pursuing a major and I focused more on that and switched to mathematics, which is what I graduated in.

Yes, I believe that less frequent THC use is likely necessary for profound experience. I think it's true of all drugs. I'm not all that experienced with drugs, but have been interested in them always. I don't take them much, though. Often not at all. Except coffee, but I'm not addicted to that. At least I have no evidence that I am. I just like it.

Re: sliding down a shitty water slide. Well, I don't know how you'd measure or determine that. It seems that way because I watch the news now like never before (cancelled my print newspapers a few years ago, but do read NYTimes online), but what data system could provide an answer to the question "are we careening out of control?"

My cabernet: Well, I'll drink maybe 3-4 oz with dinner maybe a couple times during a typical week. Sometimes every day, sometimes I go weeks without. No struggles, I just don't care.

I've never used pot for medical reasons. I just don't think that way somehow. I don't take medications either generally. Even Tylenol, ibuprofen, etc.

 

[Moonbeam]

Who but you is the cause of distrust?

America Is Having a Moral Convulsion

Levels of trust in this country—in our institutions, in our politics, and in one another—are in precipitous decline. And when social trust collapses, nations fail. Can we get it back before it’s too late?

www.theatlantic.com

Here is something one can't trust because it is words from a conservative, right?

Could it be it is the cult of the capitalist individual that creates insecurity?