All craft beer bars should have Bud Light on the menu.

[mizzou]

I've been much more appreciative of wine as of late. It's something that is really hard to fake, a good wine...and often you can get a decent one at a good price.

It's also frustrating that one bottle from the same batch will taste AMAZING and the next one might taste like butthole.

Beers, I tend to have never experienced this unusual problem...so I tend to not appreciate the fine art of it's making because I take it for granted.

Now wine snobbery, is elite snobbery at it's best.

 

[alkemyst]

I've been much more appreciative of wine as of late. It's something that is really hard to fake, a good wine...and often you can get a decent one at a good price.

It's also frustrating that one bottle from the same batch will taste AMAZING and the next one might taste like butthole.

Beers, I tend to have never experienced this unusual problem...so I tend to not appreciate the fine art of it's making because I take it for granted.

Now wine snobbery, is elite snobbery at it's best.

I can get wine (and other spirit) snobbery as there are huge differences in great wines. Most all craft beer is just hopped up on BAC and falls into categories of whatever fruit or fucknuts they want to put in it.

What's hilarious is the dude at a Friday's or the like making a scene because they don't have his "Balls on a Bro's Chin" IPA on draft.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Meh I'm not a lager fan, but sometimes, when a group of people goes to a bar, not everybody appreciates good beer. Every "beer bar" should have at least one or two "lawn chair" type beers. It's good business IMO.

 

[alkemyst]

I like my Mich Ultra. I can drink them for hours and enjoy it and not be hammered. If I want to go harder I like good old Guinness Extra Stout or Tequila.

 

[BurnItDwn]

I can get wine (and other spirit) snobbery as there are huge differences in great wines. Most all craft beer is just hopped up on BAC and falls into categories of whatever fruit or fucknuts they want to put in it.

What's hilarious is the dude at a Friday's or the like making a scene because they don't have his "Balls on a Bro's Chin" IPA on draft.

There's HUGE differences in beers. Theres many different malts, many different yeasts, many different hops, different timings for when to apply hops, and different amount of letting the beer condition, bottle conditioning, and then there's barrel aging and what not that many breweries like to do for their premium brews. (Bourbon barrels are popular for stouts, though some brewers like to use wine barrels, and others will even use Rum barrels.)

IPAs, which are essentially generic ales with higher abv and more bitterness, only make up a tiny fragment of the beer world, they might be what's trendy, and thus, most accessible and popular, but, look at the world of stouts, and then compare that to geuze or just simple regular old session ales like traditional English bitters...

There are many gimmicks, but even without the gimmics, there is a vast wealth of variety in beers.

 

[smackababy]

All craft beer bars should have Bud Light on the menu. They should name it something else though and call it some kind of craft light lager and watch all the fucking idiots lap it up like it is the the last drink on Earth, all claiming that this new, hip beer is awesome.

Beer snobs are pretty much just a fucking stupid as audiophiles.

They act as if it will kill them to drink anything "substandard" as if they only eat Kobe beef...

 

[NikolaeVarius]

All craft beer bars should have Bud Light on the menu. They should name it something else though and call it some kind of craft light lager and watch all the fucking idiots lap it up like it is the the last drink on Earth, all claiming that this new, hip beer is awesome.

Beer snobs are pretty much just a fucking stupid as audiophiles.

They act as if it will kill them to drink anything "substandard" as if they only eat Kobe beef...

What's the point of drinking bud light or miller if they taste like shit or don't even have a taste in the first place?

To get drunk? If I wanted that I could take shots for half the calories.

I can enjoy a substandard McD hamburger, but even that has a flavor to itself, american macro-brews don't have any of that. It's piss flavored water.

 

[smackababy]

What's the point of drinking bud light or miller if they taste like shit or don't even have a taste in the first place?

To get drunk? If I wanted that I could take shots for half the calories.

I can enjoy a substandard McD hamburger, but even that has a flavor to itself, american macro-brews don't have any of that. It's piss flavored water.

If you can't taste Bud Light or Miller or whatever, you have non functioning taste buds.

The point is crying about ME drinking Bud Light because you don't like it is fucking stupid and makes you a pretension fuckwad. Guess what? I think Nutella tastes like baby shit and poison (hazel nut allergy kind of does that), but I don't go around screaming that people shouldn't eat that "slop" or "shitpaste".

If all you enjoy is a pine tree mulch in a mug, be my guest. But, stfu about it. Nobody gives a fuck.


Also, there are very few craft beers (and the ones that exist are much harder to obtain for a reasonable price) that serve the purpose of an American Lager. When it is 100 degrees I don't want a heavy ale or a Christmas tree. I want something light, crisp and refreshing. Bud Light serves that purpose. Jim Bob's Hipster Quadruple IPA doesn't.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

If you can't taste Bud Light or Miller or whatever, you have non functioning taste buds.

The point is crying about ME drinking Bud Light because you don't like it is fucking stupid and makes you a pretension fuckwad. Guess what? I think Nutella tastes like baby shit and poison (hazel nut allergy kind of does that), but I don't go around screaming that people shouldn't eat that "slop" or "shitpaste".

If all you enjoy is a pine tree mulch in a mug, be my guest. But, stfu about it. Nobody gives a fuck.


Also, there are very few craft beers (and the ones that exist are much harder to obtain for a reasonable price) that serve the purpose of an American Lager. When it is 100 degrees I don't want a heavy ale or a Christmas tree. I want something light, crisp and refreshing. Bud Light serves that purpose. Jim Bob's Hipster Quadruple IPA doesn't.

I'm trying to see if you're trying to be ironic, or if you're actually posting this stuff without noticing the irony.

Also, if you want something light and crisp, there is water for that, or lemonade if you want flavor, or a summer wheat ale with a dash of citrus.

 

[xeemzor]

If you can't taste Bud Light or Miller or whatever, you have non functioning taste buds.

The point is crying about ME drinking Bud Light because you don't like it is fucking stupid and makes you a pretension fuckwad. Guess what? I think Nutella tastes like baby shit and poison (hazel nut allergy kind of does that), but I don't go around screaming that people shouldn't eat that "slop" or "shitpaste".

If all you enjoy is a pine tree mulch in a mug, be my guest. But, stfu about it. Nobody gives a fuck.


Also, there are very few craft beers (and the ones that exist are much harder to obtain for a reasonable price) that serve the purpose of an American Lager. When it is 100 degrees I don't want a heavy ale or a Christmas tree. I want something light, crisp and refreshing. Bud Light serves that purpose. Jim Bob's Hipster Quadruple IPA doesn't.

So you argument is that you don't like craft beer because you can't find light craft beer? Maybe you haven't been drinking the right stuff? I guarantee that you can find significantly better craft lagers than the macrobrew stuff for not much more money. Heck, since you live in Glenview I'd recommend checking out either the Binny's on Waukegan Rd or Liquor Barn on Dundee. Both places have a fantastic selection of lighter craft beer.

 

[VashHT]

Yeah Metropolitan in Chicago does lagers exclusively and they are all pretty light and crisp. I love how people act like imperial stouts and IPA's are the only craft beer styles out there, there are tons of different styles out there if you're willing to try them.

 

[Gunslinger08]

I don't drink much, but I'm fine with something like Sam Adams, Yuengling or Blue Moon. As far as the "mass produced corporate light beers" go, I'd say Bud Light is the best. Coors is just terrible and Bud Light tastes better than Miller or Mich.

 

[smackababy]

I'm trying to see if you're trying to be ironic, or if you're actually posting this stuff without noticing the irony.

Also, if you want something light and crisp, there is water for that, or lemonade if you want flavor, or a summer wheat ale with a dash of citrus.

Again, your saying "there is no point to drinking Bud Light because something else exists that isn't the same (water)". Typical fucking idiot response. Keep looking down your nose at people who drink Bud Light; they won't stop and they won't give a shit. There is no reason for ketchup to exist because you could put hot sauce on your fries instead!

So you argument is that you don't like craft beer because you can't find light craft beer? Maybe you haven't been drinking the right stuff? I guarantee that you can find significantly better craft lagers than the macrobrew stuff for not much more money. Heck, since you live in Glenview I'd recommend checking out either the Binny's on Waukegan Rd or Liquor Barn on Dundee. Both places have a fantastic selection of lighter craft beer.

I am not saying they are impossible to find, I am saying they are harder to find. The average consumer isn't going to go to a specialty store for a beer, especially ones that aren't advertised anywhere. The craft beers that are on tap in most places aren't light. They are overwhelmingly IPAs unless you go to a craft beer bar, which is then filled with fuckwads. So, I have to go out of my way to a specialty store, basically guess on which will fit what I'm looking for (or do research on what beer I should drink), or I can just get Bud Light at the same place I buy the rest of my food. Go into a craft brewery and ask for something similar to Bud Light, but "crafty" and see what happens.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Also, there are very few craft beers (and the ones that exist are much harder to obtain for a reasonable price) that serve the purpose of an American Lager. When it is 100 degrees I don't want a heavy ale or a Christmas tree. I want something light, crisp and refreshing. Bud Light serves that purpose. Jim Bob's Hipster Quadruple IPA doesn't.

I disagree. Sure, a strong stout or IPA probably isn't the most refreshing thing to drink on a hot day. But if you think those are the only craft beers that exist, that's pure ignorance on your part. There are craft breweries that brew lagers, so right off the bat your argument falls apart. There are also all manner of "light" beers, from radlers to summer ales to weizens to blond ales. I could name hundreds of beers that are light, refreshing, and better than Bud Light on a hot day (including some macros, because I'm not above drinking mass-produced beer myself). If you want to drink Bud Light, cool, but don't act like it's because finding a suitable replacement is like being asked to find a unicorn.

-EDIT- I do have the benefit of living in the Pacific Northwest, where craft beers are almost easier to find than Bud Light. I suppose depending on your location, it may take more effort. But it can be done.

 

[BurnItDwn]

So you argument is that you don't like craft beer because you can't find light craft beer? Maybe you haven't been drinking the right stuff? I guarantee that you can find significantly better craft lagers than the macrobrew stuff for not much more money. Heck, since you live in Glenview I'd recommend checking out either the Binny's on Waukegan Rd or Liquor Barn on Dundee. Both places have a fantastic selection of lighter craft beer.

Costco in Glenview usually has a case of 24 bottles with 4 different varieties of "two brothers" beers for like $10 or so. They are all light/crisp styles of beer with a lager, a weiss, a pale ale, and a french country ale.

They also have a small number of other microbrews for VERY reasonable prices...

That said, their stout selection sucks, so I stick to Binnys or Liquor Barn (or DiCarlo's)

I think his main argument isn't that he doesn't like craft beer, just that he is not really interested in beer as being anything other than/bigger than "a cold drink for a hot day that helps me to relax just a little bit"
Everybody should agree, adjunct macro lagers are consistent, budget friendly, and generally inoffensive.

It's like Cigars, some people may prefer a big flavor bomb, others like creamy smooth smoke.

Or it's like food, some people love a good Mexican or Thai dish with the Scoville equivalence of the heat of a thousand suns . Some people are perfectly content eating some plain rice and vegetables.

 

[alkemyst]

There's HUGE differences in beers. Theres many different malts, many different yeasts, many different hops, different timings for when to apply hops, and different amount of letting the beer condition, bottle conditioning, and then there's barrel aging and what not that many breweries like to do for their premium brews. (Bourbon barrels are popular for stouts, though some brewers like to use wine barrels, and others will even use Rum barrels.)

IPAs, which are essentially generic ales with higher abv and more bitterness, only make up a tiny fragment of the beer world, they might be what's trendy, and thus, most accessible and popular, but, look at the world of stouts, and then compare that to geuze or just simple regular old session ales like traditional English bitters...

There are many gimmicks, but even without the gimmics, there is a vast wealth of variety in beers.

Right and they all fall into categories like I mentioned.

 

[VashHT]

-EDIT- I do have the benefit of living in the Pacific Northwest, where craft beers are almost easier to find than Bud Light. I suppose depending on your location, it may take more effort. But it can be done.

Well there are a ton of craft breweries around here so it isn't really a problem. Honestly I can't say I've been to many places lately that don't have a pretty good selection of beer.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Everybody should agree, adjunct macro lagers are consistent, budget friendly, and generally inoffensive.

I don't know, some macros are pretty damn nasty. Hamms, Milwaukie's Best, Natty Ice? Those are hard to stomach. I can drink Bud Light, but it does taste a bit like filtered grit water, which is marginally offensive.

 

[alkemyst]

What's the point of drinking bud light or miller if they taste like shit or don't even have a taste in the first place?

To get drunk? If I wanted that I could take shots for half the calories.

I can enjoy a substandard McD hamburger, but even that has a flavor to itself, american macro-brews don't have any of that. It's piss flavored water.

This is where you beer queers get all irate and lose your argument. For many folks, Bud Light tastes great to them and they don't like your "Fruity Tutti Nut Sack infused" IPA.

The sad part is so many of these places that do offer store beers, get flamed by the patrons like "OMG, HOW CAN YOU SELL AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE BEER IN HERE!"

Then they go cry into their $15 craft beer mug.

 

[VashHT]

This is where you beer queers get all irate and lose your argument. For many folks, Bud Light tastes great to them and they don't like your "Fruity Tutti Nut Sack infused" IPA.

The sad part is so many of these places that do offer store beers, get flamed by the patrons like "OMG, HOW CAN YOU SELL AMERICA'S NUMBER ONE BEER IN HERE!"

Then they go cry into their $15 craft beer mug.

"beer queers"? JFC grow the hell up, why are bud light drinkers such whiny babies?

 

[xeemzor]

Again, your saying "there is no point to drinking Bud Light because something else exists that isn't the same (water)". Typical fucking idiot response. Keep looking down your nose at people who drink Bud Light; they won't stop and they won't give a shit. There is no reason for ketchup to exist because you could put hot sauce on your fries instead!



I am not saying they are impossible to find, I am saying they are harder to find. The average consumer isn't going to go to a specialty store for a beer, especially ones that aren't advertised anywhere. The craft beers that are on tap in most places aren't light. They are overwhelmingly IPAs unless you go to a craft beer bar, which is then filled with fuckwads. So, I have to go out of my way to a specialty store, basically guess on which will fit what I'm looking for (or do research on what beer I should drink), or I can just get Bud Light at the same place I buy the rest of my food. Go into a craft brewery and ask for something similar to Bud Light, but "crafty" and see what happens.

The average consumer makes terrible purchases most of the time, so that's not a great comparison. From you posts it almost sounds like you dislike the craft beer culture more than the actually beer itself. You also don't really need to go to a specially store to get good beer nowadays. Pretty much every grocery store in Glenview has a decent selection of craft beer. Have you even been to the new Whole Foods? Or is that too "hipster" for you?

 

[smackababy]

The average consumer makes terrible purchases most of the time, so that's not a great comparison. From you posts it almost sounds like you dislike the craft beer culture more than the actually beer itself. You also don't really need to go to a specially store to get good beer nowadays. Pretty much every grocery store in Glenview has a decent selection of craft beer. Have you even been to the new Whole Foods? Or is that too "hipster" for you?

Oh, I agree with the bolded. And that was what I was initially bitching about until someone tried the "what purpose does Bud Light serve" bullshit.

I don't tend to go to Whole Foods, as the closest one is farther than Dominics (that has turned into a shitty Jewel...). And a lot of places do have a decent craft beer selection, however 9 out of 10 of those are IPAs, with no one to ask for any real help about it. A person who doesn't know is going to try one IPA, hate it, and go back to Bud Light. I have been going to Heinen's and they have a good selection. But, I don't really drink beer anymore, so there's that.

 

[cubby1223]

Also, there are very few craft beers (and the ones that exist are much harder to obtain for a reasonable price) that serve the purpose of an American Lager. When it is 100 degrees I don't want a heavy ale or a Christmas tree. I want something light, crisp and refreshing. Bud Light serves that purpose. Jim Bob's Hipster Quadruple IPA doesn't.

You're around Chicago. There's Ebel's Weiss from Two Brothers, Bottom Up Wit from Revolution, Troublesome from Off Color, Tritica from Lucky Monk... Was at Haymarket Pub couple weeks ago and they have a refreshing blueberry wheat beer right now, and a good hefeweizen. The first 3 can be found in most liquor stores.

 

[KeithTalent]

I love a lot of craft beers and pretty much drink them exclusively, but I don't think that makes me a douche. If it does, well I don't really care. I've been drinking the stuff forever, so it's not like it is new, it is just far more prevalent and popular now.

KT

 

[alkemyst]

"beer queers"? JFC grow the hell up, why are bud light drinkers such whiny babies?

We aren't. The fact is many of us (I don't drink Bud Light, but will accept it if that's what's offered) do like some craft beers as well, but we aren't so ANAL to make statements that they are ALL piss or unfiltered water, etc.

We won't go apeshit crazy because our "Summer Peach with a Lemon Twist Ale" is not on tap when it was the #1 Lemon Twist Ale in this month's Beer Queer Gazette.

We won't even go crazy when 'our Bud Light' and only Coors or Miller is offered.

We don't pretend beer should be so stressful.

It's meant to be relaxing and a cheap drink just like how it was established in it's origins.

If we want to get pompous, we turn to wine and other spirits which have the heritage of having to be stored properly for decades or more to add to their value.

I have seen your type of drinker spaz out at even our local places that have 100's of beers on the menu because they don't have that one special one or even worse they have it, but it's on-draft only or not on-draft and what's even worse go around mocking those with a more simple domestic or foreign beer and make speeches on how Bud/Heineken/PBR/Grolsch/etc are worse than bar slop.

It just makes you guys look like bitches and why those of us that get beer just laugh about it all and go on enjoying our Bud Lights.