All craft beer bars should have Bud Light on the menu.

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Saw that on Reddit a few days ago and got a good chuckle. Sometimes you need to do something silly like that to get people out of their comfort zone and try something different.

Last Saturday I grabbed dinner at a trendy microbrew and had one of their tasty craft beers. After that we headed over to a total dive bar to catch a band and knocked back $1 high life bottles.

I consider myself lucky that I'm able appreciate both ends of the beer spectrum.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

Meh, I prefer craft beers because if I'm going to waste 200-300 calories, I rather do it with something I enjoy and doesn't taste like piss flavored water.

On the other hand, I think the current craft beer trend to shove in as many hops as possible into a beer is retarded. I'm a Stout guy myself though. Keegans Mother's Milk is just simply amazing.

 

[vi edit]

Why does everyone think that craft beer has to have loads of hops? There are tons of great stouts, belgians, etc. out there that aren't even remotely hoppy at all.

Agreed. Proliferation of IPA's and the whole hop craze is annoying. I'm not adverse to hops, but don't like them for the sake of just being "hoppy". Make it compliment some other flavor or aroma of the beer not just to punch me in the face with a pine cone.

 

[NetWareHead]

Its not even about liking a strong or full body beer or even IPA. Bud Light just doesn't taste like beer to me. Its not a true beer as far as I am concerned and tastes so diluted. American lagers are brewed with primarily barley malt like beers are supposed to be. But they also have adjuncts like rice and corn additives to make it lighter and cheaper. Thats not to say I don't like light beers. I just don't like Budweiser and Bud Light. I'lll drink it since that is usually what my friends get is kegs of Bud Light when throwing parties etc... But I won't buy it myself and I don't give a shit what others drink either. That menu is still funny though

 

[NetWareHead]

Agreed. Proliferation of IPA's and the whole hop craze is annoying. I'm not adverse to hops, but don't like them for the sake of just being "hoppy". Make it compliment some other flavor or aroma of the beer not just to punch me in the face with a pine cone.

I happen to like bitter things (coffee, IPAs, digestive liquors etc...) but I have to agree that the whole hop craze is out of hand. I like a nice balanced IPA. A bitter beer that is just bitter and no other flavors to balance it out is not a well made beer in my opinion. Its just catering to the hops, IPA, bitterness fad.

 

[mmntech]

In fairness to the beer snobs, Bud Light is sort of like store brand cola. Nobody ever claims to actually like it. People only buy it because a) they can't afford Coke or Pepsi, or b) they're a juggalo.

There are some decent macro brewed beers out there. I don't mind Rickard's Red or Keith's Red. Guinness as well I'd say falls into the big brewer category. Stuff like Bud Light, Coors Light, Rolling Rock, and PBR is just cheap swill that barely qualifies as beer. It's cheap and it gets you drunk.

 

[Sho'Nuff]

Why does everyone think that craft beer has to have loads of hops? There are tons of great stouts, belgians, etc. out there that aren't even remotely hoppy at all.

QFT. If I wanted a drink to taste like grapefruit (which all hoppy beers do IMO) I would drink grapefruit juice.

Personally I think brown ale's are the most under serviced part of the beer spectrum. Brown ale's are by far my favorite type of beer, and yet there are relatively few selections available (compared to IPAs, lagers, etc.).

 

[NetWareHead]

Brown ale's

:thumbsup:

 

[Newell Steamer]

They have it listed under lagers; it should be listed under watered down cat piss.

 

[Zee]

fucking elitest.

 

[xeemzor]

QFT. If I wanted a drink to taste like grapefruit (which all hoppy beers do IMO) I would drink grapefruit juice.

Personally I think brown ale's are the most under serviced part of the beer spectrum. Brown ale's are by far my favorite type of beer, and yet there are relatively few selections available (compared to IPAs, lagers, etc.).

Good browns and reds are my go to beers when I'm at a bar. Well balanced and delicious!

 

[irishScott]

I don't see it as a matter of "snobbery", it's quite simple. Imagine someone gave you a glass of hand-squeezed orange juice with oranges picked straight from the grove, filled with pulp and fresh as hell. Now compare that to glass of 2 parts Minute-Made and 1 part water.

The former is any good craft beer, the latter is bud-lite, budweiser and other such swill. It literally tastes, as that description said, like someone took a good craft beer and mixed it with lots of water. Why would I want to drink that?

I chalk up it's continued success solely because good American microbrews have only been around for the last 15-20 years, and are just reaching mainstream popularity in the last few. So anyone who was a "beer guy" before that associates the swill with "how beer should taste like".

 

[poofyhairguy]

Agreed. Proliferation of IPA's and the whole hop craze is annoying. I'm not adverse to hops, but don't like them for the sake of just being "hoppy". Make it compliment some other flavor or aroma of the beer not just to punch me in the face with a pine cone.

That craze is starting to die down. It was needed to help get craft beer into the mainstream (as it provides a taste DISTINCTLY different from traditional beer options) but I personally hate heavy hops and IPAs.

Love me some red ale though.

 

[NetWareHead]

I chalk up it's continued success solely because good American microbrews have only been around for the last 15-20 years, and are just reaching mainstream popularity in the last few. So anyone who was a "beer guy" before that associates the swill with "how beer should taste like".

I was talking to an old guy who worked as a brewmaster at a local small brewery. He talked about how much Prohibition ruined the beer industry in America. Before Prohibition, every medium sized town and upwards had at least 1 or more local breweries. Locally crafted beers were the norm and as well as good quality (non-Budweiser quality) beers. The large European immigrant population too demanded good quality beer. Prohibition killed these small industries. Only large breweries had the financial means to diversify and survive Prohibition and likewise had the means to surge back into the market once Prohibition was over. And thats how Budweiser, Miller, Coors etc... became popular because they were the only players left in the game. That was his explanation of it.

 

[irishScott]

I was talking to an old guy who worked as a brewmaster at a local small brewery. He talked about how much Prohibition ruined the beer industry in America. Before Prohibition, every medium sized town and upwards had at least 1 or more local breweries. Locally crafted beers were the norm and as well as good quality (non-Budweiser quality) beers. The large European immigrant population too demanded good quality beer. Prohibition killed these small industries. Only large breweries had the financial means to diversify and survive Prohibition and likewise had the means to surge back into the market once Prohibition was over. And thats how Budweiser, Miller, Coors etc... became popular because they were the only players left in the game. That was his explanation of it.

Yeah, that's what I've heard. But we're living in a golden age now, even read a BBC article a few months ago talking about how American microbrews are now influencing British breweries. Shame so many can't or won't appreciate it.

 

[NikolaeVarius]

I was talking to an old guy who worked as a brewmaster at a local small brewery. He talked about how much Prohibition ruined the beer industry in America. Before Prohibition, every medium sized town and upwards had at least 1 or more local breweries. Locally crafted beers were the norm and as well as good quality (non-Budweiser quality) beers. The large European immigrant population too demanded good quality beer. Prohibition killed these small industries. Only large breweries had the financial means to diversify and survive Prohibition and likewise had the means to surge back into the market once Prohibition was over. And thats how Budweiser, Miller, Coors etc... became popular because they were the only players left in the game. That was his explanation of it.

I heavily disagree. Before prohibition, a great majority of all bars and saloons in the US were owned/financed by one of the big beer companies, local brewe simply weren't being served regulary ar bars and saloons because of the terms of the financing contracts. Also, before Prohibition was even established, brewing had decreased significantly in america because of the temperance movement.

While Prohibition did kill off many smaller brewers, I would argue that it would have happened anyway because of WW2, where grains were being rationed, and again, only the large scale brewers had the reasources to survive, while the small scale brewers simply didn't have access to raw materials.

If anything, Prohibition in fact jump started the craft beer industry because it created a huge segment of the population who were brewing their own beers and liquors and wanted to bring their creations to market. But even that wasn't legal until the 70's.

 

[Rhezuss]

I'm a freaking fan of craft beers and I really hate the snobbery around it. Now I can't come to a friend party with a 6-pack of Miller or other commercial beer and not be laughed at while the other drink their, I must say awesome tasting beers.

Some are really great tasting beers while others taste like crap but since someone pays $6-8 for 500ml he must say it's the best beer he had.

I enjoy a nice cold commercial beer from time to time and at least the next morning i'm not the Vesuve little brother...

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I like craft beers, but the snobbery is getting too much for me...sort of like a parade of self-important hipsters.

I get it, your beer is strong and full bodied, and most likely a IPA.

Congratulations on your strong piss beer.

Agreed. I love trying craft beers. But guess what? My strong suit isn't IPA.

I happen to love trying craft Hefeweizen, witbiers, wheats, etc... (I don't know all the different versions) along with ciders.

I can down an IPA but by no means is it a pleasure. There is just this stupid notion that if you drink craft/micro beers you MUST like IPA's as your main source.

Most people who drink craft are probably too stupid to realize when half what they drink is owned by Annheiser / Budlight

 

[OutHouse]

why not splurge on a miller? it is the champaign

Why does
everyone think that craft beer has to have loads of hops?

because they see the stupid sam adams commercial where he is sniffing two handfuls of hops and then says our beer has 3 times more hops than the others...

 

[JulesMaximus]

QFT. If I wanted a drink to taste like grapefruit (which all hoppy beers do IMO) I would drink grapefruit juice.

Personally I think brown ale's are the most under serviced part of the beer spectrum. Brown ale's are by far my favorite type of beer, and yet there are relatively few selections available (compared to IPAs, lagers, etc.).

:thumbsup: Agreed. I love a good nut brown ale. Got any recommendations?

BevMo has tons of IPAs (which are too bitter for my taste) and very few brown ales.

 

[cubby1223]

Why does everyone think that craft beer has to have loads of hops?

People don't think craft beer must have loads of hops. However the reality is the large percentage of craft beer has loads of hops. And once someone acquires the taste of hops, that's all they care to drink.

I'm the exact opposite, I prefer beer in the 10-15 ibu range, usually don't like beer 25 or above. And I've never liked the typical bud/miller/coors/etc even before the craft beer craze. And it's been great now that I've learned about wheat beers. But the problem is this: I don't care to drink alone, prefer to drink with friends... but friends come in two types, those who drink only hoppy beer (and are very condescending on non-bitter beer), and those who don't care at all about taste and will only drink bud/miller/coors because it's cheap and will poke fun at you for drinking frilly beer

And hence I've now been drinking less and less.

Some friends got into a craft-beer phone app where you can record your drinks and it has a point system programmed into it based on rarity and whatever else the programmers felt like putting in. My friends will talk with each other, this beer gave me this many points! This beer gave me this bonus! I've drank beer from this many different states! I download the app and give it a try, the whole feeling is "Oh, you drink wheat beer. That's nice. Now move aside while the real beer drinkers enjoy this app."

 

[NetWareHead]

People don't think craft beer must have loads of hops. However the reality is the large percentage of craft beer has loads of hops. And once someone acquires the taste of hops, that's all they care to drink.

I'm the exact opposite, I prefer beer in the 10-15 ibu range, usually don't like beer 25 or above. And I've never liked the typical bud/miller/coors/etc even before the craft beer craze. And it's been great now that I've learned about wheat beers. But the problem is this: I don't care to drink alone, prefer to drink with friends... but friends come in two types, those who drink only hoppy beer (and are very condescending on non-bitter beer), and those who don't care at all about taste and will only drink bud/miller/coors because it's cheap and will poke fun at you for drinking frilly beer

And hence I've now been drinking less and less.

You need new friends

 

[KLin]

Firestone Walker Union Jack FTW

 

[alkemyst]

Beer queers are a funny lot. They like $30 pizzas and e-cigs as well.

Warning for language.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[momeNt]

"Craft" IPAs and stouts, laugh. Both of which are dressed up after the fermentation and malting in order to please drinkers with their nuttiness or floral aromas.

A well done ale is my favorite, I don't need the floral aromas or fruits added in to disguise what really is at the heart of the beer.

This is why I hate the hipsters that think they understand craft beers with their fucking IPA.