Alittle Haswell teaser

[ShintaiDK]

🙂

 

[Don Karnage]

Its too early to even be thinking about Haswell. Its atleast 13 months away

 

[Edrick]

It is never too early. IB is old news now. Haswell has been the next big thing since Nehalem.

 

[greenhawk]

would be nice to know in more details what is happening with the SB-E range.

but looking at that graph (do not keep tabs on them), it appears the IVY K series will have a change come Q3, the rest of IVY is not changing until it's replacement turns up.

 

[nyker96]

the pics so small, can't read the letters in them very well.

 

[toyota]

pci-e 2.0? I thought even the current Z77 had 3.0.

 

[ShintaiDK]

pci-e 2.0? I thought even the current Z77 had 3.0.

No, the CPU got 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes. The Z77 chipset and so on got 8 PCIe 2.0. Thats where your x1 slots etc comes from.

 

[ShintaiDK]

would be nice to know in more details what is happening with the SB-E range.

but looking at that graph (do not keep tabs on them), it appears the IVY K series will have a change come Q3, the rest of IVY is not changing until it's replacement turns up.

Equal or higher. Doesnt mean there will be a change. Its simply reserved.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Looks like Haswell is just...incremental SNB/IVB.

 

[Rickyyy369]

Haswell is so far off, I dont even get the slightest wiggle down there when thinking about it.

 

[gothuevos]

Bring it on!

 

[Lonbjerg]

Looks like Haswell is just...incremental SNB/IVB.

Based on what? :hmm:

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Haswell will likely allow for more features added onto motherboards making mid range mobos nicer.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

I hope Haswell is a bigger upgrade from Ivy compared to Nehalem to SB. One can only hope though 🙁

 

[Lonbjerg]

Haswell will likely allow for more features added onto motherboards making mid range mobos nicer.

Actually it's the other way around.
Intel wan't to move the Controller, NIC, ect to the CPU-die
They wan't EVERYTHING on a SoC (hence the name)

Mening at mobo's will have one function.
To deliver current (power) and house the hardware (slots).

Meaning that adding IC's/Chips to a motherboard is like double confect...it''s laready on die...so why add it?

 

[aaksheytalwar]

But will Haswell again bring us to the 2Ghz generation with twice the IPC of Ivy?

 

[Lonbjerg]

But will Haswell again bring us to the 2Ghz generation with twice the IPC of Ivy?

Try googling.
It's not COSMIC TOP SECRET what "haswell" brings to the table

One hint:
It's a tock.

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Actually it's the other way around.
Intel wan't to move the Controller, NIC, ect to the CPU-die
They wan't EVERYTHING on a SoC (hence the name)

Mening at mobo's will have one function.
To deliver current (power) and house the hardware (slots).

Meaning that adding IC's/Chips to a motherboard is like double confect...it''s laready on die...so why add it?

More as in more memory slots and pciE lanes.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Main features of Haswell for desktop users is the ondie VRM (Meaning all those phases gets removed from the mobo). New uarch (Conroe, Nehalem, Sandy, Haswell.). Much better IGP. And lastly much better idle and load powerconsumption.

 

[Lonbjerg]

More as in more memory slots and pciE lanes.

Really? :whiste:

 

[BenchPress]

I hope Haswell is a bigger upgrade from Ivy compared to Nehalem to SB. One can only hope though 🙁

Why "hope" when already know it adds revolutionary features like AVX2 with twice the SIMD throughput and gather support, and TSX for dramatically better multi-core scaling?

 

[Don Karnage]

More as in more memory slots and pciE lanes.

It doesn't need more memory bandwidth or pcie lanes. 3.0 x8 can't be saturated

 

[RU482]

someone didn't read the IBL NDA

 

[Lonbjerg]

someone didn't read the IBL NDA

We are allowed to discuss hardware...even if under NDA.
But it's not like "haswell" has beeen kept away form the public:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pKleSdXHT4
It's really not hard to evaluate "haswell"...

And there will be no need for "In Before the Lock".
I didn't sign a NDA...did you?

 

[ShintaiDK]

someone didn't read the IBL NDA

Its not like Intel didnt demo Haswell already.

Plus this is easily avaliable information spread over the internet. Not to mention, what NDA.