Aliens!? SETI found strong, interesting signal from star in Hercules.

[flexy]

http://us.cnn.com/2016/08/30/health/seti-signal-hd-164595-alien-civilization/index.html
http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=36248
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_164595
http://www.seti.org/seti-institute/a-seti-signal

An international team of researchers is now examining the radio signal and its star, HD 164595 -- described in a paper by Italian astronomer Claudio Maccone and others as a "strong candidate for SETI" -- in the hopes of determining its origin.

"The signal from HD 164595 is intriguing, because it comes from the vicinity of a sun-like star, and if it's artificial, its strength is great enough that it was clearly made by a civilization with capabilities beyond those of humankind," astronomer Douglas Vakoch, president of METI International, which searches for life beyond Earth, tells CNN.

Advanced civilization?

Paul Gilster of the Tau Zero Foundation, which conducts interstellar research, said that if the signal was artificial, its strength suggested it would have to come from a civilization more advanced than our own.

Such a civilization would likely be Type II on the Kardashev scale, an attempt by the Soviet astronomer of the same name to categorize various technological stages of civilizations.

The star is 94 light years away and has at least one known planet, but there could be more.

The strong signal was detected last year already by some Russians. Repeated efforts however couldn't replicate the signal. So more listening and observing of the star is needed.

If the signal is artificial, it would be from a civilization far more advanced than that of Earth. Possibly Type II on the Kardashev scale or Type I if the signal is narrow beam.

 

[Newbian]

The question is do the females have 3 boobs or are their vagina's full of razor sharp teeth?

 

[Puffnstuff]

The question is do the females have 3 boobs or are their vagina's full of razor sharp teeth?

I believe that the Hubble telescope spotted this evidence to answer your question.

Really though until we can verify the origin of the signal I wouldn't get too excited over it. Could just be a natural phenomena or maybe Darth Vader is powering up the death star to deal with the rebels.

 

[Newbian]

o.
By the way, is it even possible to build a wall in space?

Ask the planet Rylos for their plans.

 

[flexy]

Can anyone update on the status of SETI in general? I find entries on the net that they shut down in 2011, so I am confused.

Ah, nevermind:

Although overall Allen has contributed more than $30 million to the project, it has not succeeded in building the 350 6.1 m (20 ft) dishes originally conceived,[5] and the project suffered an operational hiatus due to funding shortfalls between April and August 2011, after which observations resumed.[6][7][8][9] Subsequently, UC Berkeley exited the project, completing divestment in April 2012. The facility is now managed by SRI International (formerly Stanford Research Institute), an independent, nonprofit research institute.[10] As of 2016, the SETI Institute performs SETI observations[11] with the ATA between the hours of 6 pm and 6 am each day, 7 days a week.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Lets deal with Trump before the human species takes on another unexplained alien lifeform.
Besides, if they are intelligent creatures we'd just figure out some way to kill them. Or at least keep them from voting.
People don't like brown skin, black skin, yellow skin nor red skin. So we're going to get along with pulsating illuminated blue skin? I don't think so.
By the way, is it even possible to build a wall in space?

P&N is over there
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[cbrunny]

Seems strange to assume they're Type 2. What evidence is there of some kind of Dyson sphere, if they exist at all? Seems like wishful thinking. Even if there is a radio signal received, it was sent almost 100 years ago. If the civ is Type 2, over that same 100 year period wouldn't one expect the signal to get stronger as their (presumed) search for ET life increases?

It'd be cool if true but just seems so unlikely with the evidence at hand. For my money, it seems far more worthwhile to focus on Earth 2.0 at Proxima Centauri.

 

[flexy]

I guess they did the calculation of Type 2 from the estimated power of the signal. As for Proxima B, not sure about that seeing that Proxima is a flaring star, so not exactly "healthy" for any life forms living near it, unless they adapted somehow.

On the other hand, THIS discovery and the fact that the star from where the alleged signal comes is "very much" like our sun (0.99 sun masses) and same type, it might be an interesting thought to focus the search on exactly such stars like ours.. Not so much because life couldn't exist on planets on other types of stars (Proxima is a good example, it definitely could!)...but MORE so from the logic that a potential civilization might have the thinking that they MIGHT search out stars similar to their own to send signals to those exact types of stars as well, rather than send randomly to any whatever type of star. For me it would make sense that a potential civilization would send out msgs to an area with a star of the same type/size even. It would be "logical" imho.

 

[Arcadio]

SETI already posted on their forum the fact that this is not that rare and that it's not what the media is making it out to be. Forum post

 

[Homerboy]

SETI already posted on their forum the fact that this is not that rare and that it's not what the media is making it out to be. Forum post

Hmmm... they should contact Purch about updating their forum software

 

[Fanatical Meat]

SETI already posted on their forum the fact that this is not that rare and that it's not what the media is making it out to be. Forum post

I read a more complete report yesterday that said the Russian equipment was a broad spectrum type which isn't ideal for what they were using it for because that type of array picks up tons on Earth's background noise. Even the Russians are skeptical that's why they didn't immediately release the result.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Could just be Disney viral marketing a Hercules sequel.

 

[Ichinisan]

Lets deal with Trump before the human species takes on another unexplained alien lifeform.
Besides, if they are intelligent creatures we'd just figure out some way to kill them. Or at least keep them from voting.
People don't like brown skin, black skin, yellow skin nor red skin. So we're going to get along with pulsating illuminated blue skin? I don't think so.
By the way, is it even possible to build a wall in space?

Is there still an eye roll emoticon?

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WTF? Not animated. LAME.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

Is there still an eye roll emoticon?

Test:


[edit]

WTF? Not animated. LAME.

Don't like the fisherprice emoticons?

 

[waffleironhead]

Seti@home posted this response to the news:

" "Baffling" "signal" "from HD 164595" is probably none of the above.
I'm sure that many of you have seen the news reports of a "SETI signal" detected from the star HD 164595

I was one of the many people who received the the email with the subject "Candidate SETI SIGNAL DETECTED by Russians from star HD 164595 by virtue of RATAN-600 radio telescope." Since the email did come from known SETI researchers, I looked over the presentation. I was unimpressed. In one out of 39 scans that passed over star showed a signal at about 4.5 times the mean noise power with a profile somewhat like the beam profile. Of course SETI@home has seen millions of potential signals with similar characteristics, but it takes more than that to make a good candidate. Multiple detections are a minimum criterion.

Because the receivers used were making broad band measurements, there's really nothing about this "signal" that would distinguish it from a natural radio transient (stellar flare, active galactic nucleus, microlensing of a background source, etc.) There's also nothing that could distinguish it from a satellite passing through the telescope field of view. All in all, it's relatively uninteresting from a SETI standpoint.

But, of course, it's been announced to the media. Reporters won't have the background to know it's not interesting. Because the media has it, and since this business runs on media, everyone will look at it. ATA is looking at it. I assume Breakthrough will look at it. Someone will look at it with Arecibo, and we'll be along for the ride. And I'll check the SETI@home database around that position. And we'll all find nothing. It's not our first time at this rodeo, so we know how it works."

 

[Ruptga]

^^ What they said. The only reason to freak out about this is "I want to believe".

 

[disappoint]

Lets deal with Trump before the human species takes on another unexplained alien lifeform.
Besides, if they are intelligent creatures we'd just figure out some way to kill them. Or at least keep them from voting.
People don't like brown skin, black skin, yellow skin nor red skin. So we're going to get along with pulsating illuminated blue skin? I don't think so.
By the way, is it even possible to build a wall in space?

Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.

A type II civilization can harness far more energy than our own. They would be a far greater threat to us than the other way around. You'd better hope they are as benevolent as they are capable.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Ask the planet Rylos for their plans.

Didn't Zure overcome the star league? Will we use the death blossom when they arrive?

 

[Puffnstuff]

Well now the truth comes out and it isn't alien after all, err depending on what country you live in.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/31/europe/seti-signal-hd-164595-not-alien-civilization/index.html

 

[SSSnail]

It's Zeus.

 

[disappoint]

So it was from a satellite? I would have guessed gravitational lensing of another source further away in the background. That would have at least been a potentially interesting discovery. Oh well, it was fun discussing Type 2 civilizations anyway. As unlikely as they are.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I always found the whole idea of listening for these signals pretty interesting. Is there a place to actually listen to this one or similar ones? I imagine they get translated to audio at some point, or is it purely just electromagnetic waves that just display on a screen?