Alexander Ovechkin wins 2nd straight NHL MVP

SP33Demon

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Also wins the Pearson Award which is voted on by fellow players to the most outstanding player.

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Ovechkin led the league with 56 goals and was second with 110 points. Voters for the Hart Trophy overwhelmingly picked Ovechkin over Pittsburgh's Evgeni Malkin and Detroit's Pavel Datsyuk, awarding him 115 of 131 first-place votes to make him the first back-to-back Hart winner since Buffalo goalie Dominik Hasek in 1997 and '98.

Ovechkin also walked off with the NHL Players' Association's Lester B. Pearson Award, given to the most outstanding player in voting by fellow players.

Ovi's 219 goals = only the 4th player in NHL history to have 200+ in 4 seasons alongside Gretzky, Lemieux, and Bossy. His 65 goals in 2007-2008 = single season record for a left winger. Rookie of the Year. Now 2 MVP's, wow.

Some highlights from 2008-2009

Hands down the best goal of last season, scoring on his BACK.
 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
But once again fell short in the playoffs.

Malkin on the otherhand...

And Malkin has Crosby, i.e. the better team douchebag. This thread is about the most valuable player to his team in case you missed it. Nobody comes even close to The Great 8 in the NHL and the voting only validated that fact even more. You're like the pricks who picked on M.Jordan before he had a good team.

 

SP33Demon

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
But once again fell short in the playoffs.

Malkin on the otherhand...

For some more humor for the lunchtime crowd... Malkin clearly rode Crosby's jockstrap to victory and Ovechkin outplayed both in the series. If you actually watched the series, analysts for ESPN were discussing for 3 games when the hell Malkin was going to show up in the series.

Pens vs Caps:

Ovechkin:
-14 points (8 goals, 6 assists), at least 1 point in EVERY game
-scored at least 1 goal in 5 of 7 games
-1 hat trick
-1 game winning goal
- +/- of +5

Malkin:
-10 points (2 goals, 8 assists), at least 1 point in 6 of 7 games
-scored at least 1 goal in only 2 of 7 games
-1 game winning goal
- +/- of -2 lol

Crosby:
-13 points (8 goals, 5 assists), at least 1 point in 6 of 7 games
-scored at least 1 goal in 5 of 7 games
-1 hat trick
-1 game winning goal
- +/- of +4
 

rh71

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I tried capping the whole awards ceremony last night but of course Versus / the ceremony went 5 minutes over and I missed the Hart Trophy presentation. Still haven't seen it. :(

BTW, Ovie rules... 4 seasons in the NHL and already:

2 Hart Trophies
2 Lester B Pearson Trophies
2 Rocket Richard Trophies
1 Art Ross Trophy
4 All Stars

The game of hockey may not be about individuals but there's not much more he can do at his position to help a team win everything.
 

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon

For some more humor for the lunchtime crowd... Malkin clearly rode Crosby's jockstrap to victory and Ovechkin outplayed both in the series. If you actually watched the series, analysts for ESPN were discussing for 3 games when the hell Malkin was going to show up in the series.

Pens vs Caps:

Ovechkin:
-14 points (8 goals, 6 assists), at least 1 point in EVERY game
-scored at least 1 goal in 5 of 7 games
-1 hat trick
-1 game winning goal
- +/- of +5

Crosby:
-13 points (8 goals, 5 assists), at least 1 point in 6 of 7 games
-scored at least 1 goal in 5 of 7 games
-1 hat trick
-1 game winning goal
- +/- of +4

Those show that Ovie really didn't outplay Crosby. The stats are almost a wash. I will say this, though .. where was Ovie when it counted (game 7)?

Ovie is a great goal scorer .. almost a highlight reel on skates .. but that alone doesn't win cups.
 

RagingBITCH

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Originally posted by: JDub02
Originally posted by: SP33Demon

For some more humor for the lunchtime crowd... Malkin clearly rode Crosby's jockstrap to victory and Ovechkin outplayed both in the series. If you actually watched the series, analysts for ESPN were discussing for 3 games when the hell Malkin was going to show up in the series.

Pens vs Caps:

Ovechkin:
-14 points (8 goals, 6 assists), at least 1 point in EVERY game
-scored at least 1 goal in 5 of 7 games
-1 hat trick
-1 game winning goal
- +/- of +5

Crosby:
-13 points (8 goals, 5 assists), at least 1 point in 6 of 7 games
-scored at least 1 goal in 5 of 7 games
-1 hat trick
-1 game winning goal
- +/- of +4

Those show that Ovie really didn't outplay Crosby. The stats are almost a wash. I will say this, though .. where was Ovie when it counted (game 7)?

Ovie is a great goal scorer .. almost a highlight reel on skates .. but that alone doesn't win cups.

Um, that's his ENTIRE point. He doesn't have a team to back him up. Crosby washed Ove? Who on Ove's team washed Malkin? He can't do it by himself...he's like Lebron.
 

bignateyk

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Malkin and Crosby really don't share many points. Not to mention that the pens seem to do fine without crosby. Malkin actually seems to rack up more ppg without crosby than with him.
 

rh71

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Originally posted by: JDub02
where was Ovie when it counted (game 7)?

this is crap... if you watched him you knew he still gave everything that game. Fleury's save on him in the 1st was huge and for the Pens one goal led to another and led to another and led to another. The dejection just piled on and it was more or less a blowout by goal 4. If you notice how Ovie scored his goal that game, it was all about pure hustle in a 5-0 game. And oh yeah, he pulled his groin since an early game against the Rangers in round 1. What was Crosby's injury in game 7 in a tight SC final game that he had to sit on the bench? I hope he was missing a leg or something like that.
 

Paratus

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So here's a hypothetical for you.

If Ove and the Caps had made it to the finals against Detroit, would the Wings have been able to shut him down as effectively as they did Crosby?

I say yes.
 

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Originally posted by: bignateyk
Originally posted by: LS21
so who would win in a fist fight ovechkin crosby or evgeni

I'm gonna say malkin. He's retard strong.

geno pretty much defected to get over here. that takes a huge pair .. i say geno wins.
 

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:thumbsup:

as for the fight, that's a tough one to call with none of them being fighters. Crosby seems like he would be quick and fiesty, Ovy would take a beating and keep going, and Gino would probably be throwing huge haymakers.

tough call on that one. probably Ovy
 

classy

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Originally posted by: SP33Demon
Originally posted by: bignateyk
But once again fell short in the playoffs.

Malkin on the otherhand...

And Malkin has Crosby, i.e. the better team douchebag. This thread is about the most valuable player to his team in case you missed it. Nobody comes even close to The Great 8 in the NHL and the voting only validated that fact even more. You're like the pricks who picked on M.Jordan before he had a good team.

No offense but clearly you don't watch a lot of hockey. Malkin is a better overall player than AO. But he gets a little slighted because he has Sid on his team. AO's offensive prowess is unquestioned, but he consistently plays poor defense, stays on the ice to long at times, and will take the shot rather make the pass for a better shot by his line mate. AO will put up big numbers, but he also plays with better line mates as well. When you skate with guys like Semin and Backstrom, with Green on the rush, he should always put up big numbers. He is truly an exciting player, but needs more polish. Gino is complete and is grasping playing defense, which he made several outstanding defensive plays in the finals. Also the Conn Smyth, and the biggest grand daddy of them all, THE CUP, trumps any other trophy a player individually can win.
 

rh71

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^ Malkin is a good all-around player who uses his linemates - he can afford to - he's the center. Ovechkin is setup to either take the shot right away or leads the rush on the wing by himself. He's left with the option to take a shot on the rush (which he scores a lot on) or stop and wait for all his linemates to get in the zone and by then so are the defensemen/backcheckers. You don't get many 3-man rushes with Ovie carrying the puck like you would with Malkin. Centers are always way back in their own zone to start and lead many rushes themselves because of this, and that's why they have linemates on either side ready for him. Wingers are not doing the same thing... they always look to get open for a pass on the rush or in the zone. Different players, different contributions, different individual skills.

Ovie only plays with Semin when they are desperate for a goal much like when Malkin/Crosby are paired... outside of that he's maybe played with him a handful of games, it is nowhere near full time... Kozlov was the RW. Backstrom carries the mail for Ovechkin and the best you'll see Ovie pass on the rush from the wing is if Backstrom crashes the net which never happens. Teams play to their strengths and that's getting Ovie the puck to shoot. When Semin played on his wing all the two of them did was over-pass. "Too cute" was heard way too often. You have a sniper, you get him the puck to shoot. If you're Malkin and play with scrubs, you hold onto the puck until you draw everyone to you then you give it up. That's their strength. How this makes Ovechkin a worse player is beyond me. Centers naturally will get more assists because they have more options on rushes. When everything filters through you, it is easy to pile on the assists, especially when you have more options to begin with. Try scoring goals carrying the puck in like that, then you will know you are truly gr8. (hint hint) This is why passing for points as a center is inherently easier, not to mention, the better play for them.

One other thing about this whole defense thing. I don't know what examples they've seen where Ovie was dogging it if it's an odd-man rush. I've never seen it. He's made numerous plays as last man or two back in the defensive zone either knocking the puck away with a dive or just destroying the puck carrier completely - does any of that go noticed? Not by other fans it doesn't. He coasts when it's a 2-on-2 and he's the 3rd man for his team. He is not diving in front of point shots and he just gives it a stick wave, doing curls in case the puck gets loose so he gets sprung. Is this what people refer to? I don't know what kind of defensive prowess you expect from a winger. Their job is to stay on their point-man. I hope you're not comparing defensive-showings between a center and a winger. Hell, I've seen Backstrom perform takeaways against the end-boards more often than Ovie... does that mean he's a better defensive player? Or because it's a trait each center has to have and his position gives him these opportunities? Arguing this point to put Ovie down is ludicrous.