Alex Jones WILL be in court..

[BUTCH1]

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones has failed to shut down a defamation lawsuit brought against him by the parents of a Sandy Hook victim.

Judge Scott Jenkins of the 53rd District Court ruled in Austin, Texas, on Thursday that the Infowars host must face claims from Leonard Pozner and Veronique De La Rosa. They’re seeking more than $1 million in damages for his repeated lies about the 2012 massacre. The ruling came after Jones attempted to get his case dismissed earlier this month.

“After considering the arguments of counsel and the record, including plaintiffs’ declarations filed on August 2, the court ORDERS that defendants’ motion is in all respects DENIED,” the court filing said.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...s-defamation-case_us_5b61c14fe4b0de86f49ceb02
I love it, I hope he gets smoked good and hard..

 

[Vic]

Expect his defense to continue to try to portray the victims as public figures and thus not fully protected from defamation. Which, of course, is BS. Being the victim of a heinous crime does not make one a public figure.

 

[1sikbITCH]

I love it, I hope he gets smoked good and hard..

Me too. Then we can save the cost of a trial.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

All I can say to this is good. I hope they succeed.

And fuck Jones.

 

[Jhhnn]

Poor Alex. So persecuted!

 

[soundforbjt]

Another victim of filthy liberals, when will this insanity end?

 

[WelshBloke]

Expect his defense to continue to try to portray the victims as public figures and thus not fully protected from defamation. Which, of course, is BS. Being the victim of a heinous crime does not make one a public figure.

As an aside, what's the thinking to make public figures not protected from defamation?

 

[Vic]

As an aside, what's the thinking to make public figures not protected from defamation?

It's not that public figures aren't protected, just not fully protected, as they must establish that the defamation was from actual malice. It's to protect freedom of the press.
Here's a wiki link to the landmark SCOTUS decision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan

It should be noted however that Jones' statements about the Sandy Hook victims probably do meet the actual malice standard anyway.

 

[WelshBloke]

It's not that public figures aren't protected, just not fully protected, as they must establish that the defamation was from actual malice. It's to protect freedom of the press.
Here's a wiki link to the landmark SCOTUS decision: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._Sullivan

I just skimmed over that but it seems a terrible way to deal with the problem.

 

[Zorba]

More liberal censorship...



/s

 

[ch33zw1z]

Hope he has to put up, since he won't shut up.

 

[Jhhnn]

Alex Jones would look good standing on a street corner holding up a cardboard sign.

 

[UNCjigga]

$1M in damages isn't enough...they should get discovery on how much Jones' audience increased after Sandy Hook and what that did to his ad revenues. He's probably profited off their dead kids.

 

[woolfe9998]

$1M in damages isn't enough...they should get discovery on how much Jones' audience increased after Sandy Hook and what that did to his ad revenues. He's probably profited off their dead kids.

That kind of discovery can only occur after a jury has made a finding in plaintiff's favor. After a plaintiff's verdict, the plaintiff can gather information about the defendant's assets. This is then presented to the jury for consideration in phase 2, which is punitive damages.

This I think is likely in this case. Basically, Jones had one bite at the apple to avoid a jury. Now he's screwed. I wouldn't want to be his defense attorney. These plaintiff's are sympathetic, and Jones' behavior has been reprehensible. And they can prove a direct link with the harassers. One of them got out of prison, and she can't visit infowars or listen to Alex Jones as a condition of her parole.

I can see a jury socking him with $10 million in punitive damages here. The $1 million is just their claim for compensatory damages.

With all this pending litigation, I see Chapter 7 in his near future.

 

[shortylickens]

He didnt get his motion to dismiss but that really means nothing either way.
The defendant's lawyer ALWAYS moves to dismiss right away. The judge grants or denies it based on whether the plaintiff supplied a minimal amount evidence and followed proper filing procedures. It has nothing to do with guilt or liability.

Still a long way to go for the families of Sandy Hook.

 

[cytg111]

Fuck Jones and his kin... willing to tear down society for a buck in his own pocket. Fuck that guy, hope he gets fucked.

 

[Sonikku]

I would urge caution in this. He could spin this as "the libs" attempting to suppress and censor his freedom of speech. And regardless of the reality, he could easily persuade conservatives as though it were truth.

 

[compuwiz1]

Alex who? Yeah, I know who he is. Unfortunately, he'll be protected under the 1st. There is lots of precedence to draw on. People's lives are damaged every day, because of something someone said. Being a POS isn't a crime, in and of itself.

 

[Commodus]

Alex who? Yeah, I know who he is. Unfortunately, he'll be protected under the 1st. There is lots of precedence to draw on. People's lives are damaged every day, because of something someone said. Being a POS isn't a crime, in and of itself.

Not necessarily. If prosecutors can show that he was likely aware his lies were leading to serious death threats against parents and that he chose to do nothing to stop this, then they may have a pretty good case. And let's be honest, there's little doubt that Jones knew what was happening to those parents. So long as they didn't die (and maybe not even then) he was happy to ruin their lives for a quick buck.

 

[cytg111]

..he was happy to ruin their lives for a quick buck.

Fuck that guy twice over is what I say.

 

[Jhhnn]

Alex who? Yeah, I know who he is. Unfortunately, he'll be protected under the 1st. There is lots of precedence to draw on. People's lives are damaged every day, because of something someone said. Being a POS isn't a crime, in and of itself.

Bullshit. The Sandy Hook parents are ordinary people thrust into the spotlight by tragedy. They are not public figures. What Jones has done to them is slander. What his looney followers have done is worse & a product of Jones' deliberate malice.

 

[BUTCH1]

Bullshit. The Sandy Hook parents are ordinary people thrust into the spotlight by tragedy. They are not public figures. What Jones has done to them is slander. What his looney followers have done is worse & a product of Jones' deliberate malice.

Yup, I agree 100%, even worse than just calling Sandy Hook "fake" was Jones claiming the parents were part of a "deep state" false-flag operation to take away gun ownership. Jones knows that a large percentage of his followers are bat-shit crazy but could care less what one of them might do, as long as they make him rich by selling laughably overpriced "prepper" bullshit his act will continue.

 

[woolfe9998]

Not necessarily. If prosecutors can show that he was likely aware his lies were leading to serious death threats against parents and that he chose to do nothing to stop this, then they may have a pretty good case. And let's be honest, there's little doubt that Jones knew what was happening to those parents. So long as they didn't die (and maybe not even then) he was happy to ruin their lives for a quick buck.

The significance of the fact that the Sandy Hook parents are not "public figures" in the relevant First Amendment precedent here is that they need only prove ordinary negligence against Jones. That means its enough that he told the lies, and that it was at least foreseeable that things like this might happen as a result. Accordingly, Jones didn't have to "know" anything to be liable here.

 

[Amused]

Alex who? Yeah, I know who he is. Unfortunately, he'll be protected under the 1st. There is lots of precedence to draw on. People's lives are damaged every day, because of something someone said. Being a POS isn't a crime, in and of itself.

So much for "the party of personal responsibility."

It is amazing how the new right-wing has absolutely zero morality when it comes to their own tribe.

Meanwhile, any REAL conservative would understand this is and open and shut case of slander. Slander is an actionable case that creates REAL, reputation, and emotional damages for the person who has been slandered, and is as old as America's court system and laws.

 

[Darwin333]

I love it, I hope he gets smoked good and hard..

Since we have recently learned about his preferred flavor of porn, sounds like he'd like something else good and hard too.