Alex Jones charged with a DWI in Texas

[s0me0nesmind1]

I'm going to preface this by saying that Jones is a piece of shit... but this arrest is shaky. He blew under .08 (the legal limit) and was still charged based on a field sobriety test. I can't see this holding up at all.

Probably right - didn't know that part, thanks.

Personally if I were ever told to do a field sobriety I would 100% refuse, every single time - REGARDLESS of if I had 10 drinks or 0....


The reason? I can't hop or walk foot on foot even sober, my balance is shit. The eye portion I would be fine though.

 

[hal2kilo]

I'm going to preface this by saying that Jones is a piece of shit... but this arrest is shaky. He blew under .08 (the legal limit) and was still charged based on a field sobriety test. I can't see this holding up at all.

Never ever, ever, do a field sobriety test. It won't save you if you are really drunk, and you can still be charged with DUI even if you blow low.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

It should, the legal limit is less of a concern if you're still unsafe to be driving. Hell, you can get a DWI/DUI while sober if you're too sleepy.

Subjective vs. measurable. A multitude of underlying medical conditions can make a FST unreliable. Best bet. Don't take one. In most states you can refuse. If you blow over you're screwed deservedly.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Never ever, ever, do a field sobriety test. It won't save you if you are really drunk, and you can still be charged with DUI even if you blow low.

Yeah out of curiosity I wanted to read a description of the tests they typically do - first result I got from google was a lawyer site telling you to never take a field sobirety... Seems pretty spot on.

Why You Should Never Take Field Sobriety Tests - Montana Criminal Lawyers | Family Law & Personal Injury Attorneys

Think you passed your DUI field sobriety tests in Montana? Learn why FSTs are designed to make you look impaired and how a defense lawyer can help.

www.judnichlaw.com

Basically - there is no "pass or fail" it's rather a way to gather evidence to use against you.

 

[ondma]

Subjective vs. measurable. A multitude of underlying medical conditions can make a FST unreliable. Best bet. Don't take one. In most states you can refuse. If you blow over you're screwed deservedly.

I really think the FST should be abolished. I am 90% sure that my wife would not pass one stone cold sober (she has several medical conditions), and not even sure I could under the stress of the situation. Yes, one certainly has the right to refuse the FST, but I am not sure of the consequences. I know that refusing the breath test results in automatic loss of license for one year (in MN), but if one blows < 0.08 and refuses the FST I am not sure what happens.

Edit: Did some more research in MN regulations. It looks like one has the right to refuse both the on scene breathalyzer and the physical FST. However, you will then be arrested, and will have to take a blood/urine test or more accurate breathalyzer test. The thing that is not clear, is if you refuse the FST tests, how long you will remain under arrest, even if the chemical test comes back under the legal limit.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I really think the FST should be abolished. I am 90% sure that my wife would not pass one stone cold sober (she has several medical conditions), and not even sure I could under the stress of the situation. Yes, one certainly has the right to refuse the FST, but I am not sure of the consequences. I know that refusing the breath test results in automatic loss of license for one year (in MN), but if one blows < 0.08 and refuses the FST I am not sure what happens.

Yeah that's a good question.

I've heard the same that if I were to ever refuse a breathalyzer I would lose my license for a year.

 

[woolfe9998]

I'm going to preface this by saying that Jones is a piece of shit... but this arrest is shaky. He blew under .08 (the legal limit) and was still charged based on a field sobriety test. I can't see this holding up at all.

That depends on which breath test he blew under the limit on. If it's a portable breath test that the cops carry with them, then it's used only for probable cause and is usually inadmissible in court because accuracy is +/- .3. Jones may or may not have had a breath test once in custody. He could have gotten a blood or urine test instead.

Also, it's Jones who says he blew below the legal limit. Jones says a lot of things.

 

[hal2kilo]

That depends on which breath test he blew under the limit on. If it's a portable breath test that the cops carry with them, then it's used only for probable cause and is usually inadmissible in court because accuracy is +/- .3. Jones may or may not have had a breath test once in custody. He could have gotten a blood or urine test instead.

Also, it's Jones who says he blew below the legal limit. Jones says a lot of things.

That close, he could even hire an expert to prove the inaccuracy of those tests in general. It's spendy and a gamble though. Depends on how much you think you may have to lose.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

That depends on which breath test he blew under the limit on. If it's a portable breath test that the cops carry with them, then it's used only for probable cause and is usually inadmissible in court because accuracy is +/- .3. Jones may or may not have had a breath test once in custody. He could have gotten a blood or urine test instead.

Also, it's Jones who says he blew below the legal limit. Jones says a lot of things.

I would never go off of what Jones said.

Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Arrested for Driving While Intoxicated in Texas

Jones founded Infowars and produces his radio show in Austin

time.com

The Infowars founder was booked into an Austin jail shortly after midnight and released on bond a few hours later, Travis County Sheriff’s Office spokeswoman Kristen Dark said. Jones, 46, had a “strong odor of alcohol” coming from him and his blood-alcohol level was recorded at .076 and .079, according to court records.

 

[woolfe9998]

I would never go off of what Jones said.

Conspiracy Theorist Alex Jones Arrested for Driving While Intoxicated in Texas

Jones founded Infowars and produces his radio show in Austin

time.com

Then the FST will matter because he was fractionally close to the limit. Even the more reliable breathalyzer is still +/- .1. He might be able to plead it down though. Cases with borderline numbers are often plead out to a wet reckless or something like that.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Probably right - didn't know that part, thanks.

Personally if I were ever told to do a field sobriety I would 100% refuse, every single time - REGARDLESS of if I had 10 drinks or 0....


The reason? I can't hop or walk foot on foot even sober, my balance is shit. The eye portion I would be fine though.

Depends on the state, in my state refusing the breathalyzer = automatic 1(?) year loss of license.
If I had one drink I’d definitely take it.

 

[dank69]

This really sad that he didn't drive into a nitroglycerin plant.

 

[Thump553]

That was a sanction he was forced to pay in the middle of the case for discovery misconduct. The case itself hasn't gone to trial yet. When it does, it's going to cause him to file BK.

That is one hell of a sanction. Something that is rarely done.

 

[ShookKnight]

What do you do after you get arrested for driving drunk?

Why, sell toothpaste with FAKE claims that is stops the corona virus of course!

Alex Jones peddling toothpaste he falsely claims can kill coronavirus

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is hawking a silver-infused toothpaste he falsely claims has the power to kill the new coronavirus. The InfoWars founder claims the product has been verified by feder…

nypost.com

The InfoWars founder claims the product has been verified by federal officials — despite there being no known FDA approved medicine or vaccine able to prevent or treat COVID-19.

Ok, ok... but colloidal silver is pretty harmles.....

The Food and Drug Administration has said that colloidal silver, also known as nanosilver, can’t treat any disease or condition.

Products that contain colloidal silver can be dangerous to one’s health, even causing “serious side effects,” the Department of Health and Human Services found.

Is there something mentally wrong with conservatives?

 

[hal2kilo]

What do you do after you get arrested for driving drunk?

Why, sell toothpaste with FAKE claims that is stops the corona virus of course!

Ok, ok... but colloidal silver is pretty harmles.....


Is there something mentally wrong with conservatives?

That blue look is quite stunning.

 

[thilanliyan]

Why, sell toothpaste with FAKE claims that is stops the corona virus of course!

Is there something mentally wrong with conservatives?

Why do you hate capitalists so much? He's just trying to pay for his mounting legal bills caused by meanie libtard deepderp judges.

 

[dawp]

What do you do after you get arrested for driving drunk?

Why, sell toothpaste with FAKE claims that is stops the corona virus of course!

Alex Jones peddling toothpaste he falsely claims can kill coronavirus

Conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is hawking a silver-infused toothpaste he falsely claims has the power to kill the new coronavirus. The InfoWars founder claims the product has been verified by feder…

nypost.com

Ok, ok... but colloidal silver is pretty harmles.....


Is there something mentally wrong with conservatives?

they're extremely gullible and have been conditioned to be that way. seems like all of them have had a frontal lobotomy.

 

[woolfe9998]

An editorial from someone who used to work with Jones.

I Worked for Alex Jones. I Regret It. (Published 2019)

I dropped out of film school to edit video for the conspiracy theorist because I believed in his worldview. Then I saw what it did to people.

www.nytimes.com

Note the repeated references to him drinking vodka while driving. This was written in December, before the DUI.

This guy needs to have his license taken away.

 

[woolfe9998]

I'll just append this to the latest Jones thread.

Alex Jones claims frontline coronavirus health care workers are killing patients for eugenics

www.mediamatters.org

The headline says it all.

Alex Jones claims frontline coronavirus health care workers are killing patients for eugenics
Jones also says nurses and doctors are doing drugs and having orgies in empty hospitals

I really hope some day this guy dies an extremely painful death.

 

[WelshBloke]

Jones also says nurses and doctors are doing drugs and having orgies in empty hospitals

If those bastards are waiting till I'm on my break before starting the orgies I'm going to be pissed off!