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JSt0rm

Lifer
Sep 5, 2000
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I'll wait to buy it. I want to make sure I'm the customer not the product. Well worth $100
 

Zstream

Diamond Member
Oct 24, 2005
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Still happy on Windows 7. Congrats to those who upgrade. I hope you enjoy being the product.


You mean like Anandtech forum ads, Google crawling your email and using app ID's to advertise to you while either browsing or using your phone, Apple using your device to feed store ads? I'm a bit confused by your revolutionary statements as if this hasn't been happening since the release of the Internet to the public.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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sticking with win7, nope.com

I've got all my other computers upgraded to 10, but I had left my HTPC alone for the longest time, because it's been stored away. I had hoped to have it setup in a new place by now but that will likely be next month...

I upgraded last night to 10, and then immediately rolled back to 8.1.

That way, that machine has a license for 10 when I am ready for it, but until then, I get to keep Windows Media Center.

I'm just waiting for a suitable replacement to WMC, and here's to hoping the HDHR DVR software shapes up well and does indeed support copy-once channels/programs. So far, WMC remains the only software to support that, and it's maddening.


11th Commandment: Thal shall not upgrade to WinDONT 10.

Aw, that's cute.

It's the best version of Windows ever. And I don't say that as a fanboy, but as a fan of an incredibly fast and stable OS that has a world of potential with UWP.


My desktop has been on Win10 since the very beginning. It's a great OS, through and through. Some adjustments to be made from previous versions, especially if you never used 8.x, but I've enjoyed each new version of Windows. Not because they told me to, but because each OS has been that much better as a platform. Terrific performance and incredibly stable, and everything I use is compatible. No worries here.
 

destrekor

Lifer
Nov 18, 2005
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You mean like Anandtech forum ads, Google crawling your email and using app ID's to advertise to you while either browsing or using your phone, Apple using your device to feed store ads? I'm a bit confused by your revolutionary statements as if this hasn't been happening since the release of the Internet to the public.

People like to pick and choose.

Granted, there are some among the folks here who rebel against any of it, don't use Android or iPhone, don't use Windows or Mac OS, etc etc etc. All libre and Linux and anti-tracking anything. If they can find happiness, so be it, but I usually get tired and annoyed by it all.

I'll stick to what works, what provides an excellent experience for me, and call it a day. I like to play around with other platforms to learn, but for what I do and use, I need Windows and Mac OS, and not virtualized because that blows for pure performance. (getting better with new code and hardware, but, still... it's not native)

But for the pick and choose types, they like to ignore how often they are already the product.
Google, Facebook, Android, iOS, any other free platform or website, ad networks everywhere. Hell, if you use any streaming media or have cable or satellite, you are quickly becoming the product there too, as more and more begin to utilize the data to help shape what ads you see. DirecTV even reaches out for credit card data and other means of getting home statistics to help curate what ads you get. Do they presume you are a single bachelor? You won't get diaper commercials, you'll get what you're more likely to pay attention to.

Point is, this world is very much moving to provide a curated experience to consumers. And you know what, I am actually just fine with that. For everything I use, I maintain vigilance and don't let the big companies know what I don't want them to know. I'll use privacy measures so that my ISP, OS provider, and browser provider(s) don't get what I don't want them to get. For websites of that nature, I prevent scripts and ad networks.

But for most of what I do, I don't care, and hell, the curated approach can actually help me out, and it has before. And I'm frankly not worried about companies like Google and Microsoft having this data. Why? Because they are not for human view, they are algorithms and databases and incredibly encrypted. Yes, in this day and age, almost anything is subject to cyber security threats and cyberwar, but frankly, I do trust these companies more than the government. Case in point, my data at these providers is still safe, whereas a whole shit ton of my data was stolen, likely by China, from the Office of Personnel Management. Yeah, that was a hard blow, and thankfully I get 3 years of some very strong identity protection service. But what happens after that? I'll probably get bent over and reamed, and ignored by the government.


And besides, you know who likely has far more information than any of these companies? The NSA. Any relevant search term and bam, you are probably having everything analyzed, or at minimum, plenty of searches have been collated on a database.

I have taken measures to restrict what data Microsoft gets, at least nominally, and I follow the whistleblowers and privacy researchers who point out these things. Is there some data leaking through to Microsoft? Yeah, sure. But hardly anything more than has already been collected elsewhere.

For me, it's give and take. I know it happens, expect it to happen, and frankly don't fear using these platforms. I am just mindful and attempt to obscure any data I consider too private. Whether I have been effective at that remains to be seen, but again, I'm not overly concerned when it comes to corporate entities.

I do concern myself with the tactics of the NSA, and do not accept the blatant invasion of privacy by the government, but at this point, there's not much I can do about that.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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So like 1% of you who hate on it actually had a problem and reverted? The others who hate it are based on word of mouth without trying it first? It's not like it's some fly-by-night company/product we're talking about here...
 
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Ruptga

Lifer
Aug 3, 2006
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So like 1% of you who hate on it actually had a problem and reverted? The others who hate it are based on word of mouth without trying it first? It's not like it's some fly-by-night company/product we're talking about here...

I don't care for it either. I upgraded last week and it looks like it's just Win7 Facebook Edition. I would have stayed with 7 except they're refusing to support things going forward, like DX12.
 

lupi

Lifer
Apr 8, 2001
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So like 1% of you who hate on it actually had a problem and reverted? The others who hate it are based on word of mouth without trying it first? It's not like it's some fly-by-night company/product we're talking about here...

Or because they ripped out useful things like WMC.
 

Elixer

Lifer
May 7, 2002
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I upgraded last night to 10, and then immediately rolled back to 8.1.

That way, that machine has a license for 10 when I am ready for it, but until then, I get to keep Windows Media Center.

Now, that is what everyone should have done, get a license for it, then if you want, revert back to the old OS.
For those that didn't, well, have fun paying $$$ when you do finally decide to upgrade.
 

Imp

Lifer
Feb 8, 2000
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Two more hours until the Windows updater thing fux the hell off permanently. Sweet.

I'll move to 10 when I get a new computer in the next few years. In the meantime, too lazy to learn new things.
 

Newbian

Lifer
Aug 24, 2008
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Two more hours until the Windows updater thing fux the hell off permanently. Sweet.

I'll move to 10 when I get a new computer in the next few years. In the meantime, too lazy to learn new things.

Hopefully they spam people using other os's with it constantly now with the price of it now that it's no longer free. ;)
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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I'd probably take them up on it if they weren't being such dicks about the automatic updates.

Never had any issues with 7, ran into several when I tried 10. I resent that MS ignores you when you tell it No Thanks and try to set the update notifier to be invisible. Fuck off Redmond.