Alaska's permafrost is thawing

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Thebobo

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BTW while not Alaska as mentioned earlier Siberia permafrost he been melting to the large holes to the gaping 1 mile wide 500 foot deep crater that started only somewhere between 25 and 50 years ago. There is more info and some video in the link below.

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https://weather.com/news/climate/news/siberia-crater-climate-change-gateway-to-underworld
 

1prophet

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Must be Democrats' fault then.

They were the gate keepers, the moment they started taking handouts from corporate America under the false rationalization that they will use that money for their democrat liberal beliefs and somehow not be corrupted, it was the beginning of the end.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/19625/robert-reich-donald-trump-democratic-party-president
The Democratic party once represented the working class. But over the last three decades the party has been taken over by Washington-based fundraisers, bundlers, analysts, and pollsters who have focused instead on raising campaign money from corporate and Wall Street executives and getting votes from upper middle-class households in “swing” suburbs.

Democrats have occupied the White House for 16 of the last 24 years, and for four of those years had control of both houses of Congress. But in that time they failed to reverse the decline in working-class wages and economic security. Both Bill Clinton and Barack Obama ardently pushed for free trade agreements without providing millions of blue-collar workers who thereby lost their jobs means of getting new ones that paid at least as well.

They stood by as corporations hammered trade unions, the backbone of the white working class – failing to reform labor laws to impose meaningful penalties on companies that violate them, or help workers form unions with simple up-or-down votes. Partly as a result, union membership sank from 22% of all workers when Bill Clinton was elected president to less than 12%today, and the working class lost bargaining leverage to get a share of the economy’s gains.

Bill Clinton and Obama also allowed antitrust enforcement to ossify – with the result that large corporations have grown far larger, and major industries more concentrated. The unsurprising result of this combination – more trade, declining unionization and more industry concentration – has been to shift political and economic power to big corporations and the wealthy, and to shaft the working class. This created an opening for Donald Trump’s authoritarian demagoguery, and his presidency.

Now Americans have rebelled by supporting someone who wants to fortify America against foreigners as well as foreign-made goods. The power structure understandably fears that Trump’s isolationism will stymie economic growth. But most Americans couldn’t care less about growth because for years they have received few of its benefits, while suffering most of its burdens in the forms of lost jobs and lower wages.

The power structure is shocked by the outcome of the 2016 election because it has cut itself off from the lives of most Americans. Perhaps it also doesn’t wish to understand, because that would mean acknowledging its role in enabling the presidency of Donald Trump.
 

sandorski

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And that is why consensus is dangerous to science. We all must work to expand upon current understanding.

Not sure who you are referring to "screaming doubts". Lost me on that one.

"Consensus" is not dangerous, it is descriptive. The vast majority of Climate related Scientists agree on the issue because the Evidence points towards those Conclusions. They did not agree to agree on a Conclusion in some Democratic and/or Conspiratorial sense.

This is why people tend to not take you or the Climate "Skeptic" community seriously. Neither of you seem to understand Science, Climate Science, or even Words. Not sure if just Gullible or a Liar.
 
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J.Wilkins

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And that is why consensus is dangerous to science. We all must work to expand upon current understanding.

Not sure who you are referring to "screaming doubts". Lost me on that one.

Really? So the consensus that the world is not flat is dangerous or does this only work with ideas like evolution and climate change?

Look, climate change has been a validated theory since the 19'th century. It's been established by every single study that it's man made and that it's occurring apart from a few studies ordered from the oil companies (on that note, tobacco is healthy says studies from the tobacco industry).

A consensus arises when evidence of multiple studies reach a conclusion based in evidence, how in the FUCK is that dangerous?

You don't have a clue how science works, questioning everything does NOT mean ignoring actual evidence or making up shit to counter it you fool.

Attempts to falsify current studies are underway, always, this has not happened yet and until it does there is nothing to base any other viewpoint on in science. Being sceptical doesn't mean what you think it does, it doesn't mean that you go against all available evidence which is exactly what you are doing, it means that you work within the scientific community to improve the theory.

EVERYONE, literally every single person who has done that is part of the consensus.

But you are going by your own reality, that you have invented to replace actual reality and in that reality you decide what is real.

That is a defence mechanism, since you seem overly religious I just have to ask (since it's always about sex crimes with the religious twits) who raped you?