Alabama Supreme Court halts all same-sex marriages

[Retro Rob]

So i guess people won't or can't answer this?

While I am in agreement with allowing gays to marry as the State sees fit, this is really a terrible reason to allow it.

To be honest, no marriage affects YOUR marriage...even a 60 year old man marrying a 12 year-old.

I know that's illegal, but how is that affecting YOUR marriage?

It isn't.

 

[schmuckley]

CONNIVE. At least spell the BS correctly.

And as for "All men are created equal"......why did the founders only really mean white men are created equal because, you know, blacks only managed to count as 3/5 of a person for representation in Congress.

Or maybe you meant when the founders made voting exclusive for white, male land owners.

BTW....slavery is Biblical. The Bible is laced with rules for treatment of slaves, if/when to release slaves from their bondage, and never a mention of slavery being abhorrent or immoral.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+21%3A16&version=KJV

Now what were you saying? He that kidnaps a man and sells a man into slavery shouldn't be put to death or something?
Yeah..

Next time you want to make a point, make sure you know what you are talking about.

It appears to me the Bible imposes capitol punishment on slavers.
Let me know how that appears to you in your skewed sense of reality.

 

[sandorski]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+21:16&version=KJV

Now what were you saying? He that kidnaps a man and sells a man into slavery shouldn't be put to death or something?
Yeah..

Next time you want to make a point, make sure you know what you are talking about.

It appears to me the Bible imposes capitol punishment on slavers.
Let me know how that appears to you in your skewed sense of reality.

Uhh no, that only addresses the theft of people.

However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)


It is you that should know wtf one is talking about.

 

[Retro Rob]

did we ever figure out how gay marriage effects straight people? or we just skipping that?

Did we ever figure out how [insert marriage type here] affects anyone? or we just skipping that?

 

[waggy]

While I am in agreement with allowing gays to marry as the State sees fit, this is really a terrible reason to allow it.

To be honest, no marriage affects YOUR marriage...even a 60 year old man marrying a 12 year-old.

I know that's illegal, but how is that affecting YOUR marriage?

It isn't.

that's just silly. it's against the law for a 12 yr old to merry anyone. a 12 yr old can't give consent they are not mature enough to make that decision. Same with dogs, toasters etc. that's not a very good comparison.

A better argument is why can't a guy (or gall) have 3 wives!? why not? if they consenting adults WHO gives a shit who they merry? it doesn't have anything to do with me or my marriage.

 

[schmuckley]

It affects the whole country If it's somehow condoned by National policy.
Celebrating Homosexuality has been the ruin of quite a few advanced civilizations.
Do you like gay porn? I sure don't.
That's what homosexuality is really about..the stuff you would see in gay porn if you watched it.
Do you really think that kind of behavior should be "normalized"?
I do not.
I say let them do what they wanna do..until it imposes on my rights..then..We have a problem.
It seems we are having a problem these days.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

hold on..need to link previous actual Constitution because your reading comprehension isn't as good as you think it is.

This oughta be good.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/tenth_amendment

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people."

Which means,If the people want something a certain way,and it is not directly addressed in the Constitution before this amendment,then what the people vote for stands,and the Executive and Judicial branch can bite it...

Equal protection of the citizens is "directly addressed in the Constitution," dummy.

and that's what it says.
This country was not set up to have some large,looming central government.

I'm sorry, it doesn't matter how dumb you are, you still don't get to pass laws that violate Constitutional amendments. Same-sex marriage bans violate the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment in the same way that anti-miscegenation laws do.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

It affects the whole country If it's somehow condoned by National policy.
Celebrating Homosexuality has been the ruin of quite a few advanced civilizations.
Do you like gay porn? I sure don't.
That's what homosexuality is really about..the stuff you would see in gay porn if you watched it.
Do you really think that kind of behavior should be "normalized"?
I do not.
I say let them do what they wanna do..until it imposes on my rights..then..We have a problem.
It seems we are having a problem these days.

This sounds familiar...

 

[brycejones]

To be honest, no marriage affects YOUR marriage...even a 60 year old man marrying a 12 year-old.

I know that's illegal, but how is that affecting YOUR marriage?

It isn't.

Not this shit again.

A 12 year old can't consent you idiot. You are correct it doesn't affect my marriage but its illegal for other reasons unless you think 60 year olds should be diddling year olds.

Now go screw Nehalam's toaster.

 

[schmuckley]

This sounds familiar...

That makes 0 sense.
What it really should be is..
The poopoo..they stick their penis in it.
Contradict that.
I know you have homosexual tendencies due to your dominant evangelistic mother...that you probably saw blowing the preacher..there's something there..

 

[brycejones]

A better argument is why can't a guy (or gall) have 3 wives!? why not? if they consenting adults WHO gives a shit who they merry? it doesn't have anything to do with me or my marriage.

This is a much better argument than the one Retro-Rob made.

 

[schmuckley]

If polygamy is not legal..dadgummit the gay stuff shouldn't be either.
TBH I wouldn't mind to have a dominant wife with 3-4 others.
..and there still should be laws against sodomy.

 

[waggy]

If polygamy is not legal..dadgummit the gay stuff shouldn't be either.
TBH I wouldn't mind to have a dominant wife with 3-4 others.
..and there still should be laws against sodomy.

Hell 1 wife is enough. but i can see where it would be usefull.

 

[Victorian Gray]

I get my history from what actually happened.Not from what some political shill wishes should have happened.
When in fact it's the opposite.

In other words, you don't have a shred of historical understanding/knowledge.

 

[schmuckley]

The bottom line is the rights go to the states/people.
I guarantee more than 80% of America thinks gay sex is gross..more ..even
and nobody wants to see that.
If you wanna do it and all that..ok..
Well I'm not going to hate on ya,but we ain't making it National policy either.
No you do not have the right to fuck another man in the ass cuz that's how you roll.
No
If they cave to the homosexual agenda..
They say a man has a right to uck.
No..Shiet..God says it's an abomination..and i guarantee 80% of people feel the same way.
just..blech

 

[schmuckley]

In other words, you don't have a shred of historical understanding/knowledge.

More than you, fucktard,The only purpose you serve is to liberal shill on this board.
You have proven you Know jack shit about anyhting.
Yet still you attack me, all the time.
Tell me more about how you know Muslims don't lust to behead a dipshit such as yourself.

 

[Victorian Gray]

More than you, fucktard,The only purpose you serve is to liberal shill on this board.
You have proven you Know jack shit about anyhting.
Yet still you attack me, all the time.

Attack you? No, simply pointing out your ignorance and occasional misrepresentations and lies.

 

[schmuckley]

Right..provide examples,right now,or stfu
I've already proven your ignorance on Islam.wait..you did that..

 

[sandorski]

The bottom line is the rights go to the states/people.
I guarantee more than 80% of America thinks gay sex is gross..more ..even
and nobody wants to see that.
If you wanna do it and all that..ok..
Well I'm not going to hate on ya,but we ain't making it National policy either.
No you do not have the right to fuck another man in the ass cuz that's how you roll.
No
If they cave to the homosexual agenda..
They say a man has a right to uck.
No..Shiet..God says it's an abomination..and i guarantee 80% of people feel the same way.
just..blech

"God" calls all sorts of shit you do everyday abominations.

 

[schmuckley]

You sir,are equivalent to the inside of a polyped colon.
Let me know when you post anything of worth that's substantial;Then I will soundly refute it.
You're like doggie poo.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Frankly I think the best thing anyone could do in this thread is to keep schmuckley talking until some other conservative comes along and tells him to quit making them look so ridiculous.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

I know you have homosexual tendencies...

Only for Platypus. :wub:

...due to your dominant evangelistic mother...that you probably saw blowing the preacher..there's something there..

 

[schmuckley]

You know it's true Cerpin..
No one could have the outlook on life that you do without that being the case.
Things are more obvious than you may realize.

 

[Retro Rob]

that's just silly. it's against the law for a 12 yr old to merry anyone. a 12 yr old can't give consent they are not mature enough to make that decision. Same with dogs, toasters etc. that's not a very good comparison.

A better argument is why can't a guy (or gall) have 3 wives!? why not? if they consenting adults WHO gives a shit who they merry? it doesn't have anything to do with me or my marriage.

The question isn't one of consent, I specifically asked whether or not it affects your marriage.

Answer the question; does a 60 year old man marrying a 12 year old affect your marriage?

 

[waggy]

The question isn't one of consent, I specifically asked whether or not it affects your marriage.

Answer the question; does a 60 year old man marrying a 12 year old affect your marriage?

no it does not. because it's not legal. Again a 12 year old can not give consent. they are not adults.

sheesh if this is the best argument you got...


I mean really this is about as dumb as the argument that if we allow gay marriage we have to allow a guy to merry his toaster.