Alabama residents vow to riot on $300 month water bills

[OutHouse]

However, since the project started in 1996, the costs have risen to $3.1 billion after various problems and a series of bond and derivatives deals fell through in 2008.

for a water project? what in the fuck are they building a hoover dam? if anything deserved a congressional investigation this would be it.

 

[spidey07]

lol attack non-partisan website cause you don't like the name and using name calling to try to attack someone. Keep it classy.

http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/about/

LOL!

Look at their slogan "reporting the world water crisis"

And you actually believe this shit?

 

[soundforbjt]

Many people think the next big world problem down the road will be a "clean" water shortage.

 

[OutHouse]

I live in Jefferson county and this has been a big mess. I just paid my water and sewer bill for last month. It was $51.84, $26.68 for water and $25.16 for sewer. I used 2,992 gallons. This is for 1 person living in a small home with city water and sewer. They have been talking about adding a sewer fee for septic tank users to help offset the cost increase.

ok so why dont you have a $300.00 water bill?

 

[spidey07]

Many people think the next big world problem down the road will be a "clean" water shortage.

Like most libtards, they also don't know about this little thing called the water cycle.

 

[sunzt]

LOL!

Look at their slogan "reporting the world water crisis"

And you actually believe this shit?

educate yourself.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/39312043

 

[Bateluer]

Jeebus, how much in the govt taxing their water/sewer? In the middle of the desert, my water bill is only ~55 dollars a month.

 

[Darwin333]

I'm sure Obama and his EPA are to blame.

Actually it is the big banks acting illegally and crooked politicians acting illegally but thanks for trying.

PS: One side went to jail, wanna guess which side it was?

 

[mpo]

Like most libtards, they also don't know about this little thing called the water cycle.

So, GE discharges 1.3 million lbs of PCBs into the Hudson River over 30 years which contaminates the local food chain.

Your solution is to let it rain?

 

[monovillage]

So, GE discharges 1.3 million lbs of PCBs into the Hudson River over 30 years which contaminates the local food chain.

Your solution is to let it rain?

They even had a permit from the Government to do it.

 

[Darwin333]

Are you trying to tell me that Obama and his EPA haven't driven up the cost of water and sewage significantly that past 3 years?

REALLY? Are you really going to say that bullshit? It's a freaking fact he's caused water bills to rise across the country.

That, if true, has very little to do with this case. This specific case has more to do with "free market bribery" by one of the nations largest banks.

JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM)’s Charles LeCroy said the key to landing bond deals in Jefferson County, Alabama, was finding out whom to pay off. In one example, that meant a $2.6 million payment to Bill Blount, a local banker and longtime friend of County Commissioner Larry Langford.
“It’s a lot of money, but in the end it’s worth it on a billion-dollar deal,” LeCroy told a colleague in 2003, according to a complaint filed by the Securities and Exchange Commission.
That’s because in the $2.9-trillion market for state and local government debt, where 80 percent of all financings are negotiated in private, conflicts of interest prevail. While Langford and Blount are in jail, LeCroy is fighting an SEC action. JPMorgan, which provided most of the toxic debt that devastated Jefferson County, has suffered no loss of business as the nation’s third-largest underwriter of municipal bonds, according to data compiled by Bloomberg.

Just 21 months ago, JPMorgan agreed to a $722 million SEC settlement to end a case over secret payments to friends of Jefferson County commissioners. The financings arranged by JPMorgan, a package of floating-rate debt and derivatives, exposed taxpayers to the 2008 credit crisis and dealt a blow that may lead the county to approve the biggest U.S. municipal bankruptcy as soon as today.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...-jefferson-county-no-bar-to-new-business.html

 

[Darwin333]

for a water project? what in the fuck are they building a hoover dam? if anything deserved a congressional investigation this would be it.

Read the link above. Investigation done, numerous politicians put in jail for taking bribes, big banksters who gave the bribes (pretty sure that is illegal too) got a fine from the SEC that is almost certainly less than they made using this tactic in a single year, no jail time for banksters who gave the bribe though.

 

[MovingTarget]

Like most libtards, they also don't know about this little thing called the water cycle.

Water, water everywhere, but not a drop to drink...

Pull your head out of the sand, spidey. Unless some major advance in power for desalination is made in the next decade or so, fresh water supplies will become even more stressed than they are today. Your solution is to toss aside "Obama's EPA" so that companies can pollute what little we have just to make a few extra bucks? That is so short sighted that it borders on extreme ignorance.

 

[Newbian]

Hell... you can't even collect rainwater legally now in many states:

http://deadlinelive.info/2011/12/12...g-government-claims-ownership-over-our-water/

 

[monovillage]

Hell... you can't even collect rainwater legally now in many states:

http://deadlinelive.info/2011/12/12...g-government-claims-ownership-over-our-water/

It's all about control.

 

[Lanyap]

ok so why dont you have a $300.00 water bill?

Good question. We don't have any details or confirmtion that their bills are that high. We also don't know if they have a big family or a big yard to water.

Here is a local news station piece on this issue. Sounds like the reporter is taking their word for it and not asking to see the bills or questioning if they have had their plumbing checked for leaks.
http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/201...force-some-residents-drastically--ar-2882104/

 

[monovillage]

Good question. We don't have any details or confirmtion that their bills are that high. We also don't know if they have a big family or a big yard to water.

Here is a local news station piece on this issue. Sounds like the reporter is taking their word for it and not asking to see the bills or questioning if they have had their plumbing checked for leaks.
http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/201...force-some-residents-drastically--ar-2882104/

Are journalists really supposed to check on facts and stuff? I wish someone would tell them.

 

[Rifter]

I'll start off by saying im not american and dont know how the goverment works down there.

However in a case like this where the goverment officials have been caught and some jailed over this scandal how is the added cost passed onto the residents? I mean if they know the goverment was corrupt and the cause of the increase in cost should the goverment not eat that cost and not pass it ontop the residents who had nothing to do with it?

It seems if they are passing the cost of the corruption onto the residents then they are basically saying they dont care about the corruption and its ok to be corrupt because we are just going to rape the people for the added cost anyways. The goverment is taking zero responsability for their members actions from the way this is playing out.

 

[Eos]

How much has your water bill gone up since obama has been in the white house?

Pre-Obama rates:
TWO MONTH LONG BILLING CYCLE
$2.920 per 748 gallons incoming
$3.848 per 748 gallons outgoing
$6.24 ambulance utility fee (static)
$4.40 tax on 7480 gallons of consumption (incoming and outgoing)

Stormwater fee began in May of 2009, at a rate of $2.80 for two months.


Current rates:
TWO MONTH LONG BILLING CYCLE
$2.964 per 748 gallons incoming
$3.906 per 748 gallons outgoing
$2.84 stormwater fee (static)
$6.24 ambulance utility fee (static)
$4.47 tax on 7480 gallons of consumption (incoming and outgoing)

Incoming price went up $.044 per 748 gallons.
Outgoing price went up $.058 per 748 gallons.
Tax went up less than 2%.
Stormwater fee is all that is new.

Ooh. Damn, that's out-fucking-rageous.

Not sure why we use so much water. It's just the two of us averaging over 60 gallons/day. Maybe I'll look into it.

 

[monovillage]

You live on the banks of the Columbia, does it really matter how much water you use or is it just a green guilt trip? I can understand people in Las Vegas or Los Angeles being frugal with their water use, but not people that have a ready and easily available supply of plentiful water.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

And having the .gov run our healthcare is the answer to all our problems.

Could socialized medicine really be worse than what we have now? How is free market health care better than the European socialized medicine when it is FAR more expensive (17% GDP) and still leaves tens of millions of Americans uninsured and under-insured?

Is corruption impossible for private businesses? Is there no such thing as death panels at private health insurance companies (where they look for ways to rescind sick people's coverage and receive commissions for it)?

 

[sourceninja]

Our town is putting in a sewer system against the will of almost every single resident in town (the petition was only missing a dozen or so signatures out of the hundreds effected). I thought their bill of 125 a month to just flush the toilet (no water) was amazingly high. I guess I'm lucky.

Although after a huge fight and threatening to go to court, they gave us an opt-out option by getting our septics certified.

 

[Darwin333]

I'll start off by saying im not american and dont know how the goverment works down there.

However in a case like this where the goverment officials have been caught and some jailed over this scandal how is the added cost passed onto the residents? I mean if they know the goverment was corrupt and the cause of the increase in cost should the goverment not eat that cost and not pass it ontop the residents who had nothing to do with it?

It seems if they are passing the cost of the corruption onto the residents then they are basically saying they dont care about the corruption and its ok to be corrupt because we are just going to rape the people for the added cost anyways. The goverment is taking zero responsability for their members actions from the way this is playing out.

That makes no sense. The residents ARE the government. The residents ARE responsible for the governments bills. Who is the "government" going to get the money from to eat the costs if not from the governed?

I would bet that they are attempting to sue the banksters who are partially responsible to recoup some of the costs and maybe get a judge to throw out the entire deal. Not sure if the money has been spent or not but something has to be done.

 

[Darwin333]

Good question. We don't have any details or confirmtion that their bills are that high. We also don't know if they have a big family or a big yard to water.

Here is a local news station piece on this issue. Sounds like the reporter is taking their word for it and not asking to see the bills or questioning if they have had their plumbing checked for leaks.
http://www2.alabamas13.com/news/201...force-some-residents-drastically--ar-2882104/

Do some more research. We know exactly why the bill is so high and I have posted it in this thread. The county got fucked by the big banksters bribing politicians to enter into a deal that was horrible for the county but outfuckingstanding for the banksters. Several politicians went to jail, the banksters didn't.

 

[Ninjahedge]

Back to OT.

The problem is they played finances with the funds available for the civil project and lost it when they crashed.

Blame Wall Street and the government officials that believed the "guaranteed deal" they were promised.