Alabama residents vow to riot on $300 month water bills

[spidey07]

Lemon law. I hope you know that ky has the best water in the country thanks to the limestone base. Why do you think bourbon is made here?

Look it up. Off to google with you.

 

[cubby1223]

Sooo lame. Explain this-

https://plus.google.com/10476586095...ZpxWo#104765860954869222632/posts/4NrxKVZpxWo

What happened to the people in Alabama is the same thing that happened to millions of individual homeowners nationwide- the attack of the financial lootocracy on the middle & working class, brought to you by deregulated banking & the Repub sponsored credit bubble of the Bush years, aka the Ownership Society.

And where in your explanation of the world are you going to dig deeper than the superficial talking points that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside each time you regurgitate them?

 

[Jhhnn]

And where in your explanation of the world are you going to dig deeper than the superficial talking points that makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside each time you regurgitate them?

Offer some deeper insights yourself. Or are you just performing your usual sniping & obfuscation?

 

[Lemon law]

Lemon law. I hope you know that ky has the best water in the country thanks to the limestone base. Why do you think bourbon is made here?

Look it up. Off to google with you.

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Spidey, don't be an idiot, there is nothing wrong with limestone water, but when mankind adds all kinds of pollutants to that limestone water, what you romantically say is no longer true. Maybe you want to enjoy the highest cancer rates in the nation, but pardon me, that is not my dream for the future.

The Kentucky of Daniel Boone days may have been a paradise on earth, but grow a brain Spidey, a few things have charged since then.

 

[spidey07]

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Spidey, don't be an idiot, there is nothing wrong with limestone water, but when mankind adds all kinds of pollutants to that limestone water, what you romantically say is no longer true. Maybe you want to enjoy the highest cancer rates in the nation, but pardon me, that is not my dream for the future.

The Kentucky of Daniel Boone days may have been a paradise on earth, but grow a brain Spidey, a few things have charged since then.

Then why do we have the cleanest water and best tasting in the country? Or did you miss that point.

 

[Lemon law]

Then why do we have the cleanest water and best tasting in the country? Or did you miss that point.

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Maybe the best tasting water may be true, but when the cleanest water is measured by elevated cancer rates the taste buds of idiots like you can't sense, you are the one who misses the point. And all sense of current reality too.

 

[monovillage]

There may be a whole slew of other factors that contribute to elevated cancer risks, you can't just point in the general direction of water over an entire State and say "that's what did it"
If you could i'd like to see the study.

 

[Jhhnn]

Then why do we have the cleanest water and best tasting in the country? Or did you miss that point.

Assuming that to be true, why do you oppose EPA efforts to keep it that way, and to maintain/ improve water quality in other parts of the country?

 

[spidey07]

Assuming that to be true, why do you oppose EPA efforts to keep it that way, and to maintain/ improve water quality in other parts of the country?

Because my state can do better than the rest without central planning and regulations that harm my state.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Kentucky has horrible water. Have you seen the people there? It obviously causes birth defects.

 

[Jhhnn]

Because my state can do better than the rest without central planning and regulations that harm my state.

Better for who? you, or the people downstream who receive your wastewater? And exactly what "harm" are you referencing, anyway?

Oh, wait, it's all about you... I forgot...

Obviously, the states did a fine job wrt water pollution prior to the EPA, huh?

http://www.cleveland.com/science/index.ssf/2009/06/cuyahoga_river_fire_40_years_a.html

 

[dmcowen674]

Just turn your water off and get bottled water.

Take 5 gal cans to work and fill it up with a hose.

Try moving.

It is a sad fact that in some geographic locations, for some reason, water costs more. I think for me, water costs like $30.00 for 60 days, including sewage. All I can say, is do what you have to. My grandmother lived on a lake and the water was not good so all drinking water had to be brought in by hand.

That's the standard answers from the Rich Republicans on here that hate the country.

Turn your Electric off, turn your water off, turn everything off.

That's what you expect for America?

How many times can you move?

It's getting to the point where can the non-rich move to?

What's left for the non-rich?

This is why the rich will face the wrath of the non-rich.

The riots are coming

 

[Doppel]

That's the standard answers from the Rich Republicans on here that hate the country.

Turn your Electric off, turn your water off, turn everything off.

That's what you expect for America?

How many times can you move?

It's getting to the point where can the non-rich move to?

What's left for the non-rich?

This is why the rich will face the wrath of the non-rich.

The riots are coming

As long as people like you think you'll be revolting, the revolution will be short-lived indeed. You can't keep a job or interpret reality, hardly a threat to anybody in power.

 

[sm625]

I cant believe people are still arguing over democrat vs republican as they bend over to pay this. As if there is any difference between the two...

 

[Genx87]

That doesn't make sense. Conservative states are generally more poor than liberal states. Conservative states have less economic production, higher rates of poverty, lower life expectancies for their citizens, and so forth. Conservative areas are generally less educated, which I believe may explain why you don't know simple statistical facts.

Conservative government is definitely the problem. Alabama has a very conservative government. That's why Alabama is such a horrible piece of shit. Look at almost the entire south. Very conservative = very shitty.

Have you looked at who was convicted in relation to this story?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Langford
http://blog.al.com/spotnews/2010/07/hold_former_jefferson_county_c.html
http://blog.al.com/jkennedy/2011/06/joey_kennedy_chris_mcnair_is_i.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Blount

Just littered with conservative republicans.

 

[soulcougher73]

I'm sure Obama and his EPA are to blame.

Sadly you'd be wrong yet again.

 

[spidey07]

Sadly you'd be wrong yet again.

Are you trying to tell me that Obama and his EPA haven't driven up the cost of water and sewage significantly that past 3 years?

REALLY? Are you really going to say that bullshit? It's a freaking fact he's caused water bills to rise across the country.

 

[sunzt]

Better for who? you, or the people downstream who receive your wastewater? And exactly what "harm" are you referencing, anyway?

Oh, wait, it's all about you... I forgot...

Obviously, the states did a fine job wrt water pollution prior to the EPA, huh?

http://www.cleveland.com/science/index.ssf/2009/06/cuyahoga_river_fire_40_years_a.html

lol pwnt.

"At this time, the state of Ohio and the city of Cleveland were involved in litigation over which governmental level had ultimate authority, and state laws were weak in enforcing water pollution control."

Wysenski, former assistant chief of the Ohio EPA's Northeast Ohio District office, was sometimes known as "Mr. Cuyahoga" among environmental pollution activists and officials at the time.

He also played a key role in the establishment of the Cuyahoga River Remedial Action Plan, or RAP, which still guides river recovery today.

He retired in 2000 after nearly three decades at the EPA, which was formed in the early 1970s in the wake of the Clean Water Act. He now lives in Philadelphia and said he's proud of the work he did to turn the Cuyahoga around.

"Absolutely -- one of biggest accomplishments of my life," he said in a telephone interview. "We covered 15 rivers out of the Northeast District office, and the Cuyahoga was always nearest and dearest to my heart because of its history and how far it had to come back from."

He also remembers his first impressions.

"I grew up on a farm and went to college at Hiram and thought I knew about the Cuyahoga River," he said. "But going into the Cleveland Flats was an eye-opening experience.

"I was sent down to get a water sample near the Jennings Avenue Bridge by Big Creek, where there was a slaughterhouse nearby, and I remember watching blood and animal parts pouring out of the outfall and into the river."

Wysenski said the reddish water and body parts would then go and mix with the oil, chemicals and sewage already in the water.

"There were other days that the river was just orange from the pickling acid used by the steel mills," he said. "And depending on the day, you would routinely see oil slicks on the river.

"But the really amazing thing was that no one really noticed much. Today those would be considered a major spill. Then, it was a regular thing."

 

[sunzt]

Are you trying to tell me that Obama and his EPA haven't driven up the cost of water and sewage significantly that past 3 years?

REALLY? Are you really going to say that bullshit? It's a freaking fact he's caused water bills to rise across the country.

Fixing WW2 era water lines aint cheap. Water rates in the US are generally cheap and we've just been used to it for a long time. We can of course do nothing and have them keep breaking and dumping sewage/disease into public water lines. Don't forget that water prices will inevitably rise as population and demand increase.

http://www.circleofblue.org/waterne...arison-of-water-rates-usage-in-30-u-s-cities/

The Future of Water Prices

In many cities, residents lean on infrastructure investments made in the years following World War II. The strain shows. According to the Environmental Protection Agency, 240,000 water main breaks occur each year. Leaky pipes lose billions of dollars of treated water annually, and sewer overflows cause outbreaks of disease.

Last year the EPA estimated that $335 billion would be needed to fix the country’s aging water supply system in the next few decades, according to the New York Times. But where that money will come from is unknown.

According to Jack Moss, an advisor to Aquafed, the international water industry association, cities have to decide whether to make improvements through taxes or tariffs. The problem is that neither government spending nor higher water bills gather much voting support.

Despite the hand wringing over prices, water in the U.S. remains cheap. In most cities surveyed by Circle of Blue a family of four can buy enough water for its indoor needs–50 gallons per person per day for washing, drinking, cooking and flushing–for less than $25 per month, which is a relatively small portion of a family budget.

“Water is very reasonably priced,” said Doug Bennett, conservation manager for the Southern Nevada Water Authority. “[As a result], it’s not a major expense on people’s radar screen.”

Meanwhile when prices come up for discussion there are always social justice concerns about access for the poor. However, with a few exceptions such as Detroit, most cities have adequate financial assistance programs to ensure in-home access for all.

One barrier to better water management is communication between utilities and customers–a common chorus amongst water rate researchers interviewed for this article.

“Water use is generally not publicized much outside of droughts,” said Drew Beckwith, a water specialist with Western Resource Advocates. “Water sort of has a technical side that often doesn’t get communicated well to the public.”

Another problem may be habit. Water has generally been so cheap for so long, that people have become anchored to the past price, not realizing that sustainability costs money to achieve.

Prices will undoubtedly rise in the near future. But the question of whether the increase comes via higher taxes or tariffs remains because bearing the price of doing nothing would be much worse.

 

[spidey07]

Fixing WW2 era water lines aint cheap. Water rates in the US are generally cheap and we've just been used to it for a long time. We can of course do nothing and have them keep breaking and dumping sewage/disease into public water lines. Don't forget that water prices will inevitably rise as population and demand increase.

http://www.circleofblue.org/waterne...arison-of-water-rates-usage-in-30-u-s-cities/

"circleofblue" Really? Another libtard that doesn't understand economies of scale to say that prices should rise as population increases. Article says 100 gallons a day for family of four for 25 bucks a month. That usage would be around 90/mo in my city. Take a look at your water bill, a significant chunk is for the EPA/taxes. It's freaking extortion is what it is. Fuck be upon obama.

 

[Ausm]

Obviously. He used that Kenyan mind control voodoo time warp to start it all back in 1996, then laughed with glee as costs ballooned 10X while the Bushistas prioritized the ebil Saddam over projects at home.

The project would have been a great place for a congressional earmark, too, but since most of the voters there are black Dems and the congress was white Repub, screw 'em.

What's more important- killing brown people, or taking care of our own? The welfare of the financial elite, or working people? Spidey's delusions of grandeur or the gritty lives of southern working poor?

If Spidey starts taking drugs for his paranoia/schizophrenia, I want to know what company that is so I can buy some stock.

 

[Ausm]

Better for who? you, or the people downstream who receive your wastewater? And exactly what "harm" are you referencing, anyway?

Oh, wait, it's all about you... I forgot...

Obviously, the states did a fine job wrt water pollution prior to the EPA, huh?

http://www.cleveland.com/science/index.ssf/2009/06/cuyahoga_river_fire_40_years_a.html

State water tables don't not go across State's lines silly!

:biggrin:

 

[spidey07]

If Spidey starts taking drugs for his paranoia/schizophrenia, I want to know what company that is so I can buy some stock.

How much has your water bill gone up since obama has been in the white house?

 

[sunzt]

"circleofblue" Really? Another libtard that doesn't understand economies of scale to say that prices should rise as population increases. Article says 100 gallons a day for family of four for 25 bucks a month. That usage would be around 90/mo in my city. Take a look at your water bill, a significant chunk is for the EPA/taxes. It's freaking extortion is what it is. Fuck be upon obama.

lol attack non-partisan website cause you don't like the name and using name calling to try to attack someone. Keep it classy.

http://www.circleofblue.org/waternews/about/

 

[soundforbjt]

How much has your water bill gone up since obama has been in the white house?

About a $1.