Alabama Republicans refuse to draw a second Black congressional district in defiance of Supreme Court

[Meghan54]

What is your experience with weed. Not asking about usages, but with what you experience different while on it. My experience is that it turns me into a head. That is a state I don’t much care for. I experience drug induced thinking as free for all association, chains of thought that go farther and farther away from what is right in front of me,

The centipede was happ, quite until the toad in fun, asked which leg goes after which………

What tells you that weed helps mental health rather than adding to the pleasure of becoming sicker.

The addiction to thinking can lead to the conclusion that thinking isn’t such a good thing. Be mindful of not assuming that the alternative is mindless oblivion.

One thing I see as a possible benefit to a psychedelic drug experience that alter perception is the first hand realization that ordinary awareness is not the only possible state and that the ordinary tendency to equate mystical experiences as simple madness might be a mistake. But trying through drugs alone to repeat peek states of conscious awareness might best not be attempted via repeated use. All of the purported experiences people can have on drugs may be accessible via the hero’s journey. They say, seek and you will find.

So, what you’re saying is you’re stuck in freshman year in college mentality.

Gotcha. Most people do get beyond this…odd you’re stuck there given your enlightenment and all. 🤪

 

[sportage]

The court simple needs to redraw the map themselves since the lawmakers refuse to. And THAT is how it should work.

 

[Moonbeam]

I wasn't talking about me when I said that. I just know it helps a lot of people control their ADHD, for example.

Oh. I think the best treatment for that might be a perhaps long slow process of reliving the traumas on which that misery depends, but psychedelics might help with that. We lack physicians who have healed themselves so mental illness is a big problem.

But I am curious as to what your opinions are if you have used weed. It’s ok if you prefer not to say.

 

[Moonbeam]

So, what you’re saying is you’re stuck in freshman year in college mentality.

Gotcha. Most people do get beyond this…odd you’re stuck there given your enlightenment and all. 🤪

Are you speaking for most people? At freshman college age and far younger the thought like that in your video had long become old hat and well before I had ever heard of drugs. By the way, I could never get through a few minutes of Animal House. I like a very different kind of humor.

 

[Moonbeam]

The court simple needs to redraw the map themselves since the lawmakers refuse to. And THAT is how it should work.

I think it would be an excellent problem to attempt to address by attempting to program objectivity into an AI that draws rational boundaries.

 

[sportage]

The court simple needs to redraw the map themselves since the lawmakers refuse to. And THAT is how it should work.

MSNBC:
The judges assigned a special master and cartographer to redraw the map ahead of the 2024 elections that "complies with the Voting Rights Act," according to the order.

Thank you!!!

 

[dank69]

Oh. I think the best treatment for that might be a perhaps long slow process of reliving the traumas on which that misery depends, but psychedelics might help with that. We lack physicians who have healed themselves so mental illness is a big problem.

But I am curious as to what your opinions are if you have used weed. It’s ok if you prefer not to say.

Misery? I don't think ADHD is about misery. AFAIK it's a chemical imbalance, like a lot of other mental health issues. Some of those other issues might be about misery, like depression for example.

Anyway, I don't mind talking about my weed use, which is mostly recreational. I say mostly because I do experience anxiety from time to time, and weed can help with that sometimes, and other times make it worse, depending on the strain and dosage.

Other than that, I do it for fun when chilling at home or in social situations. A pleasant side effect is that it makes it easier for me to connect with my kids on a childlike level, which is nice.

 

[Moonbeam]

Misery? I don't think ADHD is about misery. AFAIK it's a chemical imbalance, like a lot of other mental health issues. Some of those other issues might be about misery, like depression for example.

Anyway, I don't mind talking about my weed use, which is mostly recreational. I say mostly because I do experience anxiety from time to time, and weed can help with that sometimes, and other times make it worse, depending on the strain and dosage.

Other than that, I do it for fun when chilling at home or in social situations. A pleasant side effect is that it makes it easier for me to connect with my kids on a childlike level, which is nice.

Most interesting. Thanks for sharing. As I said I don't use it because it makes it possible for me to think intensily and thought is fear. I also become aware of tension in my muscles and have a desire to tire them out via exercise. I would love to try Rolfing but I don't know anybody who does it.

 

[dank69]

Most interesting. Thanks for sharing. As I said I don't use it because it makes it possible for me to think intensily and thought is fear. I also become aware of tension in my muscles and have a desire to tire them out via exercise. I would love to try Rolfing but I don't know anybody who does it.

"Thought is fear" seems pretty extreme.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Thread topic is ... what?

 

[kage69]

No consequences for telling the Fed court to get bent? Jim Crow fans telling judges they don't need to follow the law should have been answered with Fed Marshals showing up and arresting people. Repugs sure like to violate their oaths of office, pity all that happens is a collection of shrugs most times.

I hope the court appointed people can accomplish their jobs without more redneck obstruction, or worse.

 

[HomerJS]

A lot of people in this thread by not advocating punishing Alabama officials IMO are taking light Republican refusal to follow the law when it comes to voting rights.

Taking voting rights for granted is one of the ways the Shelby case which required pre-clearance for changes was lost. Alito claiming racism is over, so we don't need these kinds of rules for states with previous bad histories is also a culprit. Republicans in general have the position racism is over to the extent we don't need to be concerned about voting rights.

I find it perplexing in a country that isn't allegedly racist this can happen.

 

[HomerJS]

Alabama once again appealing to SCOTUS claiming their newly redrawn map should remain, despite them not following the court's orders. Republicans in Alabama IMO are attempting to stall in order to miss the deadline for the 2024 election. I bet SCOTUS entertains this stall tactic while pretending to want their order followed. Time for DOJ to step in.

Alabama to ask US Supreme Court to keep Republican-drawn electoral map

Alabama's Republican-backed congressional map illegally dilutes Black residents' voting power and must be redrawn, a panel of three federal judges ruled on Tuesday, a decision that the state said it would appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

www.reuters.com

 

[brycejones]

A lot of people in this thread by not advocating punishing Alabama officials IMO are taking light Republican refusal to follow the law when it comes to voting rights.

Taking voting rights for granted is one of the ways the Shelby case which required pre-clearance for changes was lost. Alito claiming racism is over, so we don't need these kinds of rules for states with previous bad histories is also a culprit. Republicans in general have the position racism is over to the extent we don't need to be concerned about voting rights.

I find it perplexing in a country that isn't allegedly racist this can happen.

The process is still playing out. Now if the group of judges adopts a map that SCOTUS doesn’t overturn and then Alabama refuses to comply then yes I expect sanctions to be imposed on the appropriate parties in Alabama.

The current step of the court drawing a map because the state failed to create one that complied is a sanction in itself.

 

[HomerJS]

The process is still playing out. Now if the group of judges adopts a map that SCOTUS doesn’t overturn and then Alabama refuses to comply then yes I expect sanctions to be imposed on the appropriate parties in Alabama.

The current step of the court drawing a map because the state failed to create on that complied is a sanction in itself.

That process playing out IMO includes the stall before the 2024 elections. But we will see.

 

[Zorba]

No consequences for telling the Fed court to get bent? Jim Crow fans telling judges they don't need to follow the law should have been answered with Fed Marshals showing up and arresting people. Repugs sure like to violate their oaths of office, pity all that happens is a collection of shrugs most times.

I hope the court appointed people can accomplish their jobs without more redneck obstruction, or worse.

I agree with the sentiment, but do we really want the courts to be able to mandate the legislator pass certain legislation under the threat of arrest? Having a special master redraw the maps I think is the proper way of handling it.

Allowing them to stall for years, is bullshit, though.

 

[hal2kilo]

Alabama once again appealing to SCOTUS claiming their newly redrawn map should remain, despite them not following the court's orders. Republicans in Alabama IMO are attempting to stall in order to miss the deadline for the 2024 election. I bet SCOTUS entertains this stall tactic while pretending to want their order followed. Time for DOJ to step in.

Alabama to ask US Supreme Court to keep Republican-drawn electoral map

Alabama's Republican-backed congressional map illegally dilutes Black residents' voting power and must be redrawn, a panel of three federal judges ruled on Tuesday, a decision that the state said it would appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court.

www.reuters.com

That's coming all the way from Republican leadership. Make no mistake. That's one less Pub vote, when they only have a small majority anyway.

 

[Moonbeam]

"Thought is fear" seems pretty extreme.

I have explained what I mean by that many times here but then nothing I use words to explain can really be explained using them. The finger pointing at the moon is to the moon. The idea and the difficulty of expressing it is not unique to me. It is a fundamental mystery the resolution to which requires a transition in conscious awareness, an ah ha moment.

Thought is possible because of language, the understanding of the meaning of words, which is to say that language is of the past. Language is memory, feelings and ideas tied to words. Words divide, compare and contrast, separate, define and transmit. Words can become tools that manipulate.

The human body self monitors for a physical state that is conducive to survival via the physical senses by knowing instinctively the difference between pleasure and pain. Such differentiation coupled with a powerful predictive computer makes it possible to using the emotional values acquired in the past that adhere to words to create a sense of dread. Humans are the only creatures that manufacture there own misery just by thought itself. A dog that has been whipped may cringe at the sight of a stick, but humans manufacture then purely by visualizing them.

Words are associations with past experiences of positive and negative experiences that create the concept of things that do not otherwise exist, like belief in good and evil and once you believe those are real you can be put down, made to feel worthless with words.

And once you buy into that which could not be avoided, you are fucked.

What is the psychological condition of a person who comes to the end of thought misery production and experiences a pause, a moment in which time and imagined suffering end because the awareness say of the temple bell rings and one suddenly awakes. Is timeless thoughtless being for all of us our original state, free of self induced thought produced misery?

Are we not, in thinking prisoners of negative ideas about ourselves we acquired from the sleeping machines around us who told us we are worthless?

Now imagine you believe that because you think you are then you will believe you are because you think. I think that would make me very afraid of coming to the end of thinking because I think via thinking that is death. Yes, it is death of the ego, the thinker, the planner of escape, the savior that will protect you from the demons of the past, and all the while is the demon itself.

Catch 22, my friend. Thought is fear, the promise that it will save you fron what itself creates.

 

[HomerJS]

I agree with the sentiment, but do we really want the courts to be able to mandate the legislator pass certain legislation under the threat of arrest? Having a special master redraw the maps I think is the proper way of handling it.

Allowing them to stall for years, is bullshit, though.

Special master draws the map, Alabama appeals through all courts before SCOTUS. Lots of time goes by.

SCOTUS finally says change the maps or we will arrest people. Alabama: sorry SCOTUS we don't have time before the 2024 election. We will implement after.

I'm just sayin'

 

[Zorba]

Special master draws the map, Alabama appeals through all courts before SCOTUS. Lots of time goes by.

SCOTUS finally says change the maps or we will arrest people. Alabama: sorry SCOTUS we don't have time before the 2024 election. We will implement after.

I'm just sayin'

I agree that's the plan. That's a problem with the courts being hyper partisan hacks.

 

[MrSquished]

Just cut that shithole cancerous state from the Union and offer a relocation program to all decent non-republicans there. Simple.

 

[iRONic]

The.Opposite.Of.Simple.

 

[Pens1566]

I'll go out on a really strong limb that the "corrected" districts will absolutely NOT be in place for the '24 cycle. Appeal to SCOTUS with the districts as is until hearing/decision after the elections, or SCOTUS finds in favor of the AL legislature before hand.

 

[Lost_in_the_HTTP]

Court not willing to let them run the clock out.

Judges refuse to pause order for Alabama to draw new congressional districts while state appeals

A three-judge panel has refused to pause an order to draw new congressional districts in Alabama while the state pursues another round of appeals to ...

 

[HomerJS]

Meanwhile people like PCgeek claim Republicans are not racist