Alabama Judge Wears Ten Commandments on Robe

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Alabama Judge Wears Ten Commandments on Robe
By BOB JOHNSON, AP

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (Dec. 14) - A judge refused to delay a trial Tuesday when an attorney objected to his wearing a judicial robe with the Ten Commandments embroidered on the front in gold.

Circuit Judge Ashley McKathan showed up Monday at his Covington County courtroom in southern Alabama wearing the robe. Attorneys who try cases at the courthouse said they had not seen him wearing it before. The commandments were described as being big enough to read by anyone near the judge.

Attorney Riley Powell, defending a client charged with DUI, filed a motion objecting to the robe and asking that the case be continued. He said McKathan denied both motions.

"I feel this creates a distraction that affects my client," Powell said.

McKathan told The Associated Press that he believes the Ten Commandments represent the truth "and you can't divorce the law from the truth. ... The Ten Commandments can help a judge know the difference between right and wrong."

He said he doesn't believe the commandments on his robe would have an adverse effect on jurors.

"I had a choice of several sizes of letters. I purposely chose a size that would not be in anybody's face," he said.

The case raised comparisons to former Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore, who was removed from office in 2003 for refusing to remove a Ten Commandments monument from the rotunda of the Alabama Judicial Building in Montgomery.

Moore said Tuesday he supports McKathan's decision to wear the Ten Commandments robe.

"I applaud Judge McKathan. It is time for our judiciary to recognize the moral basis of our law," Moore said.

Powell said if he loses his case, he expects the judge's wearing of the Ten Commandments robe to be part of an appeal.

 

Fausto

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Once again, I would like to personally thank Alabama for making Georgia look somewhat less stupid by comparison. :)
 

Platypus

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That's a good idea :roll:, though not surprising considering the state it happened in.
 

0roo0roo

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now if only an islamic judge wore bits of the koran or whatever on his robe;)
 

Bumrush99

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I wonder if they would feel the same about a Muslim judge wearing Koranic verses on his chest.
 

Kelemvor

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Good for Him. What does writing on a robe have to do with getting a fair trial? Was God involed in the veridict because the writing was on the robe? If so, I hope the guy is found guilty. Wish people would stop whining about everything that doesn't have any affect anyway.

 

Bumrush99

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Good for Him. What does writing on a robe have to do with getting a fair trial? Was God involed in the veridict because the writing was on the robe? If so, I hope the guy is found guilty. Wish people would stop whining about everything that doesn't have any affect anyway.

Ever hear of the seperation of church and state? Or is the constitution only applicable when it fits your viewpoint?
 

0roo0roo

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makes u wonder why he doesn't scream "I AM GODS LAW" at the start of every session:) would atleast be up front about it.
 

Thraxen

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Ever hear of the seperation of church and state? Or is the constitution only applicable when it fits your viewpoint?

That's not part of the constitution.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Good for Him. What does writing on a robe have to do with getting a fair trial? Was God involed in the veridict because the writing was on the robe? If so, I hope the guy is found guilty. Wish people would stop whining about everything that doesn't have any affect anyway.
....and so it begins.
 

kage69

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It's amazing how the followers of Paul still can't get it into their heads! This jackass doesn't deserve to run a court.
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: Fausto
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Good for Him. What does writing on a robe have to do with getting a fair trial? Was God involed in the veridict because the writing was on the robe? If so, I hope the guy is found guilty. Wish people would stop whining about everything that doesn't have any affect anyway.
....and so it begins.

;)
 

Zysoclaplem

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He did it for attention, plain and simple. Like some teen that dresses in all black clothing, with dyed black hair, and with a spike collar. Just less extreme. He may be filled with God's love, but that's no reason to present himself in that manner at work. Do what you want when you are off the clock, but come on, this is your job.

But it did get him into the news.

 

Deeko

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Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Good for Him. What does writing on a robe have to do with getting a fair trial? Was God involed in the veridict because the writing was on the robe? If so, I hope the guy is found guilty. Wish people would stop whining about everything that doesn't have any affect anyway.

Ever hear of the seperation of church and state? Or is the constitution only applicable when it fits your viewpoint?

I am not religious, but its not like he is not still judging based on US law and not the ten commandments. I don't see why its such a big deal.
 

Bumrush99

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Originally posted by: Thraxen
Ever hear of the seperation of church and state? Or is the constitution only applicable when it fits your viewpoint?

That's not part of the constitution.


Constitution, Article VI, Section III


" but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."



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"The remaining part of the clause declares, that 'no religious test shall ever be required, as a qualification to any office or public trust, under the United States.' This clause is not introduced merely for the purpose of satisfying the scruples of many respectable persons, who feel an invincible repugnance to any test or affirmation. It had a higher object; to cut off for ever every pretence of any alliance between church and state in the national government. The framers of the constitution were fully sensible of the dangers from this source, marked out in history of other ages and countries; and not wholly unknown to our own. They knew that bigotry was unceasingly vigilant in its own stratagems, to secure to itself an exclusive ascendancy over the human mind; and that intolerance was ever ready to arm itself with all the terrors of civil power to exterminate those, who doubted its dogmas, or resisted its infallibility."

Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States, by Supreme Court Justice Joseph Story, Vol III, (1833) p 705.

 

Eli

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Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
Good for Him. What does writing on a robe have to do with getting a fair trial? Was God involed in the veridict because the writing was on the robe? If so, I hope the guy is found guilty. Wish people would stop whining about everything that doesn't have any affect anyway.
His religion shouldn't be affecting his judgement in the first place.
 

0roo0roo

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look, it was the intent of the founders. and it is basic reason. a man who respresents our justice system has to atleast LOOK unbiased. he has to respresent OUR law not a RELIGIOUS law.
 

Kelemvor

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Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Originally posted by: Thraxen
Ever hear of the seperation of church and state? Or is the constitution only applicable when it fits your viewpoint?

That's not part of the constitution.


Constitution, Article VI, Section III


" but no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States."


Did someone take a test somewhere or did the guy just have some words on his robe?

Now where'd I put my cheese so I can start giving it out....
 

yllus

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A judge that makes a blatant statement like this knowing the furor that is sure to result is a judge with an axe to grind. A judge with an axe to grind is not a judge you want presiding over your case.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: yllus
A judge that makes a blatant statement like this knowing the furor that is sure to result is a judge with an axe to grind. A judge with an axe to grind is not a judge you want presiding over your case.
Winner.

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