Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S.?

Carpathian Dragon

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This is a very detailed report regarding Al-Qaeda's "American Hiroshima" operation.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203
According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union ? including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces Spetznaz to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.
 

ntdz

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That scares the living sh!t out of me, I hope to god it isn't true and doesn't happen.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: conjur
Who were you before you were banned?

Posting from that site which then uses G2 as its basis for a story?


BTW, that story is a year old
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/13/171536.shtml

:cookie:
Next time you cite a story from a left wing blog, or a Democrat party sponsored website, I will remind you of this thread.

Quit whining, you hypocrit.
For the 2nd time, name a "Democratic party propaganda website" that I've cited.

And, btw, this story is a non-entity. Gertz's G2 project is a fvcking joke. Its sole purpose is to promote books from right-wing hacks.
 

JackStorm

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Originally posted by: chrisms
I'm afraid

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering...Oh, wait...What was this thread about again?

*Shrugs*
 

irwincur

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Seems like too large of a plan to have not gained more notice around the world. There is only so much that a group can do before anyone notices, and working across multiple borders and cultures is just asking for problems. I find it far fetched that Osama even has enough money at this point to pay for all of this.

I have always been of the opinion that the downfall of terror is the design of their networks. Yes, they do protect them to a certain degree, but they also spread out the chance of detection. To execute a plan of this nature there would either have to be a small core group in control (as is not the case) or multiple agents in multiple groups would need all of the details - which greatly increases the chances of someone finding out.

"Osama is not our top priority, I don't know where he is and it's not a priority"

Technically he is not. His entire group is. At this point, I suspect that Osama isn't even in the leadership. He is most likely dead.

When is the last time we have heard from Osama, or seen him on a non green screen background?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: irwincur
Seems like too large of a plan to have not gained more notice around the world. There is only so much that a group can do before anyone notices, and working across multiple borders and cultures is just asking for problems. I find it far fetched that Osama even has enough money at this point to pay for all of this.
That's because this is a BS story designed to push Williams' book. Spews2themax reported this same story a YEAR ago and nothing ever came of it.
 

NeoV

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wasn't Osama's voice verified on an audiotape within the last year, referring to recent events of the time?

Russia had nukes in the US during the cold war? News to me.
 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: NeoV
wasn't Osama's voice verified on an audiotape within the last year, referring to recent events of the time?

Russia had nukes in the US during the cold war? News to me.

Funny how this coincides exactly with the plot of a new fiction book or something I heard being discussed on NPR the other day as I was driving home from work. I just can't remember the title.
 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: bamacre
If Al Qaida had nukes inside the US, we'd be missing a city already.

Yeah seriously. . .what are they waiting for? For us to discover their plan and ruin their party?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: bamacre
If Al Qaida had nukes inside the US, we'd be missing a city already.

Yeah seriously. . .what are they waiting for? For us to discover their plan and ruin their party?

Naturally I have no idea if there are nukes or not, but why is everyone so impatient? Why does Al Queda have to move on anyones timetable but their own?

There are many people in that organization, and no doubt some can plan. For the moment there is no apparent reason to blow up a city. The notion that terrorism is about terror is naive. I don't even like the term because it is too simplistic. The real purpose of it is a means to power and keep it. Al Queda is a force in their culture. They manipulate their people like our politicians do us.

When the time comes to stir the pot, then something big will happen. Not before.
 

ahurtt

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Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider
Originally posted by: ahurtt
Originally posted by: bamacre
If Al Qaida had nukes inside the US, we'd be missing a city already.

Yeah seriously. . .what are they waiting for? For us to discover their plan and ruin their party?

Naturally I have no idea if there are nukes or not, but why is everyone so impatient? Why does Al Queda have to move on anyones timetable but their own?

There are many people in that organization, and no doubt some can plan. For the moment there is no apparent reason to blow up a city. The notion that terrorism is about terror is naive. I don't even like the term because it is too simplistic. The real purpose of it is a means to power and keep it. Al Queda is a force in their culture. They manipulate their people like our politicians do us.

When the time comes to stir the pot, then something big will happen. Not before.

Just seems like a plan this intricate would have too many opportunities for too many things to go wrong and ruin it by waiting around for conditions to be "just right." And I'm not sure why you say that there is no apparent reason for Al Quaeda to want blow up a US city at this time. I'm sure a number of people could point out any number of motivations. What was the condition which set off 9/11 do you think?
 

raildogg

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Unlike us, the eastern cultures think a thousand years ahead!

They wait. They plan. They strike at the perfect time and know the consequences. The Chinese, the Arabs and others think a thousand years in advance. We think short term.

Just because they have not used a nuclear bomb yet doesn't mean a single thing. Remember they waited 8 years after the first world trade center bombing. These people are planning as we speak. Arresting these people in large numbers won't do a thing, their population is growing at a rapid pace. They are breeding at an enormous pace.

The only way we will defeat radical Islam is to capture or kill all the radical Muslim leaders that brainwash these people. Arresting these terrorists doesn't make a bit of difference one way or another.

By the way, what was that terrorist alert about the 5 Chinese al-qaeda guys sneaking a bomb in thru Mexico?

Why is the Mexican border still so porous?

Shame on Bush for not putting more security along the border. At least put a huge fence up. :)
 

NeenerNeener

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Who know's if they have them here or not. They'd be stupid to set em off. There wouldn't be a holy land left for them to complain about us occupying. Then WWIII.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: NeenerNeener
Who know's if they have them here or not. They'd be stupid to set em off. There wouldn't be a holy land left for them to complain about us occupying. Then WWIII.

I have a feeling if they used a nuclear bomb here, Mecca and Medica would be elimated off the face of this earth. I'm not sure if I would or would not support that.
 

raildogg

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Remember that al-qaeda is perfectly capable of producing a dirty bomb. A bomb which has radiological material fused with a explosive device. It would not do much physical damage but severly cripple this country's economy and create a massive panic.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: NeenerNeener
Who know's if they have them here or not. They'd be stupid to set em off. There wouldn't be a holy land left for them to complain about us occupying. Then WWIII.
I have a feeling if they used a nuclear bomb here, Mecca and Medica would be elimated off the face of this earth. I'm not sure if I would or would not support that.
Only with maniac ideologues that you support running the WH and the Pentagon.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: NeenerNeener
Who know's if they have them here or not. They'd be stupid to set em off. There wouldn't be a holy land left for them to complain about us occupying. Then WWIII.
I have a feeling if they used a nuclear bomb here, Mecca and Medica would be elimated off the face of this earth. I'm not sure if I would or would not support that.
Only with maniac ideologues that you support running the WH and the Pentagon.

Well we would need to send a message if they used a nuclear bomb here. But if it is only a dirty bomb, I wouldn't support turning Mecca and Medina into a parking lot. But if it actually is a nuclear bomb, a similar device used in Nagasaki, lets say, I would put all options on the table.

LOL, I actually supported Gore in 2000 and thought he won the election. So enough of that please. :)

I think Britain just finally woke up and realized that this enemy is much more dangerous and much more devious than the Nazis could ever be. It is also much harder to destroy since they don't have a single country of origin. They have more like 25 or so countries. Tony Blair is trying to put into place harsher policies. I support that. There is a vast manhunt going on in the UK right now.

We also need to have a better intelligence service who actually find out and infiltrate these groups.
 

conjur

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If Blair is going to put in place tougher policies, then he's a reactionary. England has been dealing with the IRA for decades and they've lost more lives due to IRA bombings than from this one allegedly Al Qaeda attack. All of those millions of cameras already around the country couldn't stop this from happening, what do you propose to do?