Al Qaeda kill 12 in France

[Dari]

Let's just ignore the fact that you are trying to argue that having one's head lopped off slowly is completely painless, due to adrenaline, and that childbirth is the same--no pain, because adrenaline.

Let's ignore that you just said that "due to modern medicine, of course childbrith is painless!"

So, tell me, dipstick, is the Jihadi going to administer the epidural on their victim prior to the beheading, or do they have to wait to clear it with BlueCross and under the guidance of a licensed Anaesthesiologist?
It's the only way your comparison makes any sense.

You accuse LK of having no experience with the pain of childbirth, because he can't birth children; yet you claim to be the anointed expert on the pain of beheading.

So, tell me, how many fucking times have you been beheaded, moron?
And you say someone else has no experience with this? And you are trying to tell me what death looks like, while you describe the process in a way that no one who has experienced it, ever would?

You are a fucking idiot.

Ah, putting words into my mouth. are we? Making shit up, are we? Nowhere did I say it was completely painless. I said that, at a certain point, the body stops registering pain and simply puts you in shock. So, no one is screaming and crying until they die. They go into shock at the body starts shutting down vital organs. LK spoke as if he could relate to women and spoke on their behalf. If someone is having a child and screaming from the pain, then it hasn't even reached the threshold of having limbs cut off or even a beheading. Because, at a certain point, there is no more pain. The pain is there for warning and prevention. After a certain threshold, shock sets in. I have witnessed someone limb being cut off in Africa where Sharia was practiced. It was gruesome and extremely painful. After a while the criminal stopped shrieking and just laid there.

 

[Dari]

Dari, just, no. You're wrong here, as you are about basically everything you post about. Normally I'd have some fun picking out and explaining all the fallacies you just used, but I also once read a parable about wrestling pigs, so fuck that.

Nobody really cares what you think, because we've all been here long enough to know better. You're talking out of your ass and everyone knows it, including you since you just admitted it several times, so just stop already. Just because Alkemyst is gone doesn't mean his position needs to be filled.

STFU, please. You made a statement yesterday and I challenged any doctor here to refute my statement and no one has, so far. The only joke here is you and anyone else who does not think that there is a limit in which the body registers pain.

BTW, while the events in France are tragic, there are other Islamist catastrophes going on in other parts of the world. I have been in these regions. The people there have loved ones just like France. Unfortunately, there plight does not register as much. But 2000 people getting killed by this terror organization should be frontpage everywhere.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/09/boko-haram-deadliest-massacre-baga-nigeria

Nigeria: 2,000 feared killed in Boko Haram's 'deadliest massacre'

Amnesty International calls the killings ‘a disturbing and bloody escalation’ and a local defence group says its fighters have given up trying to count the bodies

Hundreds of bodies – too many to count – remain strewn in the bush in Nigeria from an Islamic extremist attack that Amnesty International described as the “deadliest massacre” in the history of Boko Haram.

Fighting continued on Friday around Baga, a town on the border with Chad where insurgents seized a key military base on 3 January and attacked again on Wednesday.

“Security forces have responded rapidly, and have deployed significant military assets and conducted air strikes against militant targets,” said a government spokesman.

District head Baba Abba Hassan said most victims are children, women and elderly people who could not run fast enough when insurgents drove into Baga, firing rocket-propelled grenades and assault rifles on town residents.

“The human carnage perpetrated by Boko Haram terrorists in Baga was enormous,” Muhammad Abba Gava, a spokesman for poorly armed civilians in a defence group that fights Boko Haram, told the Associated Press.

He said the civilian fighters gave up on trying to count all the bodies. “No one could attend to the corpses and even the seriously injured ones who may have died by now,” Gava said.

An Amnesty International statement said there are reports the town was razed and as many as 2,000 people killed.

If true, “this marks a disturbing and bloody escalation of Boko Haram’s ongoing onslaught,” said Daniel Eyre, Nigeria researcher for Amnesty International.

The previous bloodiest day in the uprising involved soldiers gunning down unarmed detainees freed in a 14 March 2014 attack on Giwa military barracks in Maiduguri city. Amnesty said then that satellite imagery indicated more than 600 people were killed that day.

 

[Dari]

lol - you saw it on video. ROFL.

Wow, you saw a pregnancy on video. Why don't you watch your kid's head exit your wife's body in real life, see the doctor stretching and cutting, in person. Then maybe you can opine on the subject.

LOL - video. You have got to be one of the biggest dipshits on this board, right up there with McOwned and Alky.

VIDEO...BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA



AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

I saw it on video because I was serving my country at the time. Trust me, giving birth has nothing on the cutting off of limbs. Nothing. The vagina will contract back. Limbs do not grow back. I think you should stick to kissing the asses of cops. At least you're an expert there.

And I can't imagine following my wife around when she's pregnant. Laying up under her because what she's doing is so special/sacred. I prefer to be elsewhere doing something useful with my life. Making a difference. You? Ass sores and paper cuts are the only things that make you bleed. Maybe that's why you're so infatuated with men in uniforms...

 

[schmuckley]

Yeah I agree with you. I meant it was a mental disease in the sense that if someone is crazy enough to believe that they are commanded to murder then at that point it should be treated as a mental illness. Like in my other post in the islam thread.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=37063243&postcount=53
This is what their "holy book" commands them to do. Only someone with a mental deficiency (and/or mentally ill) would believe that they are to murder, crucify, slay, and fight non-believers.

Oh yeah? Well there's millions of them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7TAAw3oQvg



http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimdalrympl...ighters-more-than-many-nations-arm#.nhRydJGG7

Guess what? There's more regular people that are armed than there are of them.
Not to mention police/military.

People have had about enough of their shit.
I feel bad for your everyday Muslim;cuz their world's about to get a lot worse.

 

[schmuckley]

That video is an intellectually-vacuous hit job, if you ask me. Ben Shapiro identifies as an Orthodox Jew and is on record as proposing (approx. 10 years ago) that all Palestinians be expelled from the West Bank. So his view in this debate is well-known. He's fully entitled to his beliefs of course, but what we should NOT accept are his logic fails.

From the video:

This premise, from which he launches his entire diatribe, is utter nonsense. Just like Christianity, Islam has its own holy book, and the Koran has its own very clear version of "thou shalt not kill." You can only validly claim to be a Muslim if you observe this basic rule. If you kill, no matter what twisted interpretation of the Koran you use, you are not a Muslim

Just like Christianiy, Buddhism, Hinduism and any other major religion, Islam is a religion of peace. The vast majority of the world's Muslims are as peaceful as you or I. The fact that some extremist assholes commit violence and claim to be Muslims does NOT mean they are Muslims. Just like anyone claiming to kill in the name of Christianity is not a Christian.

What someone believes and what actions they take are important, granted, but we should always judge the person for this and not the religion/nation/team that they claim to represent...unless of course that religion/nation/team clearly supports these actions.

An even bigger logic fail:

Wow, wow, the stupid in this is staggering. So if you answer 'yes' to the question "Do you believe that Israel, the US or 'someone else' was behind 9/11?" then you are radicalized. FFS! Nearly all of us believe 'someone' was responsible for 9/11. The only way you could answer 'no' to that question would be if you thought the whole thing was some massive 'coincidence' or an act of God.

But he takes this as a metric of being radicalized, and uses it to say that 143 million Indonesians (70% of 205 million) are therefore radicalized. If I pulled this in a First Year social sciences essay back in my uni days, the fact that I used a single poll would itself be grounds for very low marks. Defining 'being radicalized' as believing that 'someone' was behind 9/11 would have resulted in an instant fail and moreover would have had the lecturer wonder how it is I got into the course in the first place.

Seriously, as a refutation this video is a POS.

You sir,are a liberal shill.
The bad thing is..Muslims kill liberals so you're really endorsing ideology that would love to do away with yours.

Here's a video for you: NSFW http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

There's going to be a lot of this going on.

 

[lupi]

Kidney stones can't be that painful. I saw a video once and a guy pissed them out while playing video games and eating a bowl of wheaties.

haven't met a female yet who had stones and kids and said the stone wasn't the more painful experience.

 

[Remobz]

A few less Muslim terrorist scum for the world to worry about now. Only problem is that there a crap load more hiding out in Europe and the West biding their time to strike.

 

[John Connor]

How fitting that the two brother dick heads die at a printing plant and the other at a kosher deli.

 

[Black Octagon]

You sir,are a liberal shill.
The bad thing is..Muslims kill liberals so you're really endorsing ideology that would love to do away with yours.

Here's a video for you: NSFW http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=869_1420833044

There's going to be a lot of this going on.

Thank you for your polite, evidence-based and eloquent reply. You have conclusively shown me the error of my ways and inspired a deep personal reflection that will undoubtedly change me for the better. We need leaders like you teaching our future generations.

 

[shortylickens]

Thank you for your polite, evidence-based and eloquent reply. You have conclusively shown me the error of my ways and inspired a deep personal reflection that will undoubtedly change me for the better. We need leaders like you teaching our future generations.

Am glad to hear it.

 

[skyking]

Thank you for your polite, evidence-based and eloquent reply. You have conclusively shown me the error of my ways and inspired a deep personal reflection that will undoubtedly change me for the better. We need leaders like you teaching our future generations.

That link you posted was indeed thought provoking, as much for the replies to it as for the content. You can find intelligent opposing views that way.

 

[Dari]

Nah, that one was already on the books. While Europe's governments do work a lot differently than ours, our spy agencies are more similar than they want to admit.

More antiterror activisim from France. Your spiel about them being different from the United States is bullshit.

link

Paris attacks: France boosts anti-terror strategy

France is to create 2,680 new jobs and boost spending by 425m euros (£325m) to bolster counter-terrorism efforts, Prime Minister Manuel Valls has said.

He said such resources were crucial to dealing with an expanded extremist threat, with 3,000 people currently requiring surveillance across France.

Mr Valls was laying out the government's plans following attacks in Paris in which 17 were killed.

Earlier, a prosecutor gave details on four men charged over the attacks.

Three of the men are alleged to have helped supply arms to Amedy Coulibaly, who is believed to have shot dead a policewoman on 8 January, a day before attacking a Jewish supermarket in Paris where four hostages were killed.

On 7 January two brothers, Said and Cherif Kouachi, attacked the Paris offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 12. All three gunmen were shot dead by police.

Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said that international co-operation with authorities in Turkey, Spain and Belgium would continue, as investigators sought information on possible accomplices, the suspects' travel records, and information about how they got their weapons.

Announcing new counter-terrorism resources, Mr Valls said security forces would be provided with better equipment and protection, including bullet-proof vests.

"We will pursue this fight against terrorism relentlessly," he said.

Since the attacks, France has deployed more than 10,000 troops across the country to protect public spaces and sensitive sites such as schools, synagogues and mosque.

and there are more in the pipeline...

EU urges broad alliance on terrorism

The EU's foreign policy chief has called for a broad alliance to tackle terror, including with Muslim nations, at a summit of EU foreign ministers.

Federica Mogherini said there had to be more co-operation both with Muslim countries and internally within the EU.

The Brussels summit follows gun attacks in Paris that killed 17 people and anti-terrorism raids in Belgium.

Two of the Paris gunmen said they were "avenging" French cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.

Tens of thousands of people rallied on Monday in Grozny, capital of Russia's mainly Muslim region of Chechnya, to protest against the cartoons published in Charlie Hebdo magazine.

The foreign ministers were meeting ahead of a special leaders' summit on terrorism on 12 February.

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Ahead of the Brussels talks, Ms Mogherini said: "The threat is not only the one we faced in Paris, but is also spreading in many other parts of the world, starting from Muslim countries.

"We need to strengthen our way of co-operating together first of all with Arab countries and then internally. We need to share information more, we need to co-operate more."

Arab League Secretary General Nabil al-Arabi is attending the talks with the 28 EU foreign ministers.

Ms Mogherini said: "We will discuss with the secretary general how to increase the level of co-operation... we need an alliance, a dialogue."

UK Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond echoed her call, saying Muslim countries had "suffered the greatest burden of terrorism".

Palestinian demonstrators burnt a French flag in Gaza City on Monday...

 

[John Connor]

They finally get it...

Welcome to post 9/11 Europe!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

They finally get it...

Welcome to post 9/11 Europe!

Paris responds!

 

[John Connor]

Yeah, I just read that on Facebook. Funny how France was all free speech and now they pull that crap. Like you can do anything to a news company by a foreign court. And courts always favor the first amendment and we pretty much say fuck off to any country trying to abridge our 1st amendment right. The only thing that will happen is if Fox goes to France, France will issue parking tickets.

 

[maddogchen]

Free speech says nothing about being sued for what you say. Its about not throwing you in jail or not killing you for what you say.

 

[John Connor]

Fox has a limited presence in France. It's not the governments job to hold the press accountable. It's the peoples!

It's an uphill battle for France. The case of defamation would be most likely tossed out. U.S law protects the media from foreign court decisions. It's called the 2010 speech act. It pretty much flips the bird to foreign courts trying to abridge our first amendment.

Fox does not have a significant presence in France and nether does their sister network Sky News.

It seem this shake down is pity just when they had a march about free speech.

Are we going to sue RT for anti-American propaganda?

 

[Pocatello]

In a few years, France will be calling those terrorists "heroes", once the Muslims population become large enough.

 

[Ruptga]

In a few years, France will be calling those terrorists "heroes", once the Muslims population become large enough.

Wrong forum, retard.

More antiterror activisim from France. Your spiel about them being different from the United States is bullshit.

I guess I have to accept your ruling, considering that's your persona's specialty. Then again, I made a clear distinction between the behavior of their governments and spy agencies, even though I have to admit that can be a subtle distinction.