Al Qaeda kill 12 in France

[Dari]

Islam is sick. Europe and Israel are bordered by all these failed muslim states. Disgusting.

 

[highland145]

Why are we censoring images?

Referring to my request?

You're happy seeing some guy murdered?

Really?

What does that say about you?

I just asked for a nsfw link.

 

[Jumpem]

Referring to my request?

You're happy seeing some guy murdered?

Really?

What does that say about you?

I just asked for a nsfw link.

I guess. I saw in the first post that an image had been removed.

I am not happy to see it, but it is reality. We should all be aware of the type of people Islamists are.

 

[shortylickens]

 

[Ns1]

here's the french paper reporting:

One suspect has surrendered to police, two wanted brothers LIVE 421
Follow live the situation. Two men 34 and 32 years are still being sought in the investigation into the attack against 'Charlie Hebdo' that killed 12 on Wednesday.

En savoir plus sur http://www.lemonde.fr/#R5MLZQPPeHSKxEi8.99

 

[highland145]

I guess. I saw in the first post that an image had been removed.

I am not happy to see it, but it is reality. We should all be aware of the type of people Islamists are.

Americans aren't aware at all.

Bro in law brought back videos, al-queida filmed and distributed, of their heinous acts in Afghanistan. Savages.

Apologies for sounding like an ass but there's enough crap in my brain already.

 

[Dari]

Americans aren't aware at all.

Bro in law brought back videos, al-queida filmed and distributed, of their heinous acts in Afghanistan. Savages.

Apologies for sounding like an ass but there's enough crap in my brain already.

I wouldn't call them "savages". Whether killing someone hundreds of miles away on a computer screen via a Predator/Reaper drone or doing it with a knife, death is death. If anything, killing someone from such a distance is no different from doing it by committee without being in the same room or hearing the shrieking. It's worse than doing it in person, where you can examine life exit the body.

However, this act of murder today over cartoons goes to show that muslims have no intention of assimilating in the West. The Arab spring also shows that the Arab world isn't ready to separate religion from politics.

 

[deanx0r]

French reaction in Paris right now:

 

[Ruptga]

Good for them. If that had happened over here we would already be in the process of inventing a new security agency and voting a blank check to our executives and spies.

 

[Carson Dyle]

Good for them. If that had happened over here we would already be in the process of inventing a new security agency and voting a blank check to our executives and spies.

No. We'd be on the brink of martial law at home, congress would immediately double the defense budget and we would launch an invasion of some random third-world country with a military that has no planes or ships. Our airports would be backed up for hours, if not days, as every man, woman, child and wheelchair bound octogenarian is strip searched by mouth-breathing TSA morons.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Fuck the filthy bastard scum who did this and fuck their religion too.

 

[Jeff7]

French reaction in Paris right now:

We said the same thing several years ago, while we were also quietly wetting ourselves and begging the government to watch us day and night.


With any luck they won't follow a similar path. :\

Fuck the filthy bastard scum who did this and fuck their religion too.

You'd think it would be considered a mental illness to want to follow something that compels you to murder people.
But religion is generally quite astonishingly common anyway. Some of them get a lot more enthusiastically violent than others, though violent themes remain bizarrely common. At least a lot of them have eventually, and sometimes reluctantly, shed the old ideas of "Let's just kill everyone who offends us!"


But...I guess you'll always have sociopaths of any affiliation.

 

[clamum]

in before...
-religion of peace
-frenchies suck
-frenchies had it coming because they suck
-headscarf ban
-firearms ban
-well if I was there I woulda...
-something something immigration

I thought so too but this video kind of refutes that "religion of peace" thing IMO.

 

[Ruptga]

No. We'd be on the brink of martial law at home, congress would immediately double the defense budget and we would launch an invasion of some random third-world country with a military that has no planes or ships. Our airports would be backed up for hours, if not days, as every man, woman, child and wheelchair bound octogenarian is strip searched by mouth-breathing TSA morons.

I don't see how that differs significantly from what I described.

 

[Carson Dyle]

I don't see how that differs significantly from what I described.

I was agreeing with you. Try not to take things quite so literally.

 

[tential]

Good for them. If that had happened over here we would already be in the process of inventing a new security agency and voting a blank check to our executives and spies.

I'm already ok with that as it is.

There will be another Crusade at this rate.

 

[Ruptga]

I was agreeing with you. Try not to take things quite so literally.

I can't help it sometimes.

I'm already ok with that as it is.

There will be another Crusade at this rate.

I yield the remainder of my time to Nathan Fillion

 

[Carson Dyle]

They've been encountered again (Thursday) and they've killed another cop.

I just watched a walk-through of Wednesday's incident on CNN. It's unbelievable. The gunmen ran into cops in four different places and were able to shoot their way out each time. They shot at a cop near the offices where they killed the people, enabling them to drive away, ran into some cops a few blocks away, killed one, then drove away again. They managed to drive halfway across the city before wrecking their car, hijacked another one and got away.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Thanks! I heard the rumor earlier this evening but couldn't find a reputable source reporting it.

So much for it being a reputable source. lol

 

[highland145]

I wouldn't call them "savages". Whether killing someone hundreds of miles away on a computer screen via a Predator/Reaper drone or doing it with a knife, death is death. If anything, killing someone from such a distance is no different from doing it by committee without being in the same room or hearing the shrieking. It's worse than doing it in person, where you can examine life exit the body.

However, this act of murder today over cartoons goes to show that muslims have no intention of assimilating in the West. The Arab spring also shows that the Arab world isn't ready to separate religion from politics.

Watch the Danny Pearl video and get back with me.

Did you miss the P&N thread where raping pre pubescent girls was O.K. is they were slaves?

Agree on the 2nd paragraph.

 

[KeithTalent]

Ugh, disgusting.

KT

 

[Dari]

Watch the Danny Pearl video and get back with me.

Did you miss the P&N thread where raping pre pubescent girls was O.K. is they were slaves?

Agree on the 2nd paragraph.

So you think turning someone into dust via a hellfire missile from a Predator or Reaper drone by a technician hundreds or a thousand miles away is more humane than cutting them up with a sword or knife?

 

[Black Octagon]

I thought so too but this video kind of refutes that "religion of peace" thing IMO.

That video is an intellectually-vacuous hit job, if you ask me. Ben Shapiro identifies as an Orthodox Jew and is on record as proposing (approx. 10 years ago) that all Palestinians be expelled from the West Bank. So his view in this debate is well-known. He's fully entitled to his beliefs of course, but what we should NOT accept are his logic fails.

From the video:

Now the question isn't whether Islam itself is violent, it's what its adherents believe, because that's what they act upon.

This premise, from which he launches his entire diatribe, is utter nonsense. Just like Christianity, Islam has its own holy book, and the Koran has its own very clear version of "thou shalt not kill." You can only validly claim to be a Muslim if you observe this basic rule. If you kill, no matter what twisted interpretation of the Koran you use, you are not a Muslim

Just like Christianiy, Buddhism, Hinduism and any other major religion, Islam is a religion of peace. The vast majority of the world's Muslims are as peaceful as you or I. The fact that some extremist assholes commit violence and claim to be Muslims does NOT mean they are Muslims. Just like anyone claiming to kill in the name of Christianity is not a Christian.

What someone believes and what actions they take are important, granted, but we should always judge the person for this and not the religion/nation/team that they claim to represent...unless of course that religion/nation/team clearly supports these actions.

An even bigger logic fail:

There are approximately 1.6 Muslims on the planet...Indonesia the the most populous Muslim country; it's got almost 205 million Muslims living there. According to one 2009 poll it showed that...70% [of Indonesians] blame Israel, the United States or someone else for 9/11. So, you make that calculation and it's about 143 million people who are radicalized. Are you scared yet? Well we're just getting started

Wow, wow, the stupid in this is staggering. So if you answer 'yes' to the question "Do you believe that Israel, the US or 'someone else' was behind 9/11?" then you are radicalized. FFS! Nearly all of us believe 'someone' was responsible for 9/11. The only way you could answer 'no' to that question would be if you thought the whole thing was some massive 'coincidence' or an act of God.

But he takes this as a metric of being radicalized, and uses it to say that 143 million Indonesians (70% of 205 million) are therefore radicalized. If I pulled this in a First Year social sciences essay back in my uni days, the fact that I used a single poll would itself be grounds for very low marks. Defining 'being radicalized' as believing that 'someone' was behind 9/11 would have resulted in an instant fail and moreover would have had the lecturer wonder how it is I got into the course in the first place.

Seriously, as a refutation this video is a POS.

 

[highland145]

So you think turning someone into dust via a hellfire missile from a Predator or Reaper drone by a technician hundreds or a thousand miles away is more humane than cutting them up with a sword or knife?

You don't?

 

[Ruptga]

Now look what you've done Clamum, I hope you're happy.