Al Qaeda itself sees the continued American presence in Iraq as a boon for the terror network

[techs]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20061006/wl_csm/oalqpal

...a letter that has been translated and released by the US military indicates that Al Qaeda itself sees the continued American presence in Iraq as a boon for the terror network, which has recently shown signs of expanding into the Palestinian territories and North Africa.

"The most important thing is that the jihad continues with steadfastness ... indeed, prolonging the war is in our interest," says the writer, who goes by the name Atiyah. The letter, released last week, was recovered in the rubble of the Iraqi house where Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, former leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq, was killed by a US bomb in June.



Sadly Al-Qaeda seems to have a better grasp of reality than Bush.

 

[Termagant]

I propose the West could exploit marginal radicalization to end terrorism. Everyone has a breaking point at which they will violently act out against percieved acts against them, their people, or their beliefs. This will be a different level of anger for each person. So, conduct activities in the Middle East that inflame passions, and proceed to kill everyone who violently reacts. Then, take steps to lower tensions and appease the populous by alleviating their concerns. This may result in a safety threshold in that everyone still alive is comfortably not militant, and the next inflaming act will not drive some people past their threshold to violence. Of course this will have to repetitively conducted every generation.

 

[MAW1082]

Before 9/11, OBL pledged to wage war against the US for the following reasons:

1. US Embargo against Iraq
2. US Support of Israel
3. US Miltary bases in Saudi Arabia

This was according to a CNN interview with him around '98 I believe . . . If these are in fact the issues OBL has been using to recruit soldiers then it must be easier today than it was back then . . .

 

[Lemon law]

Its GWB's picture on the Al-Quida recruitment posters---not Osama's that swells Al-Quida recruitment---and by national intelligence estimate---Al-Quida streagth was 20,000---and now is 50,000---or up 250%.

Maybe its time for us to realise that as we move to the hyperspastic right---we are losing the people in the middle who have an interest in law and order.---and just desire a normal life in Iraq---and the sure way to lose these folks is to STAY THE COURSE.

Has it ever occured to us in the US---we don't need stronger more cock sure leaders---we need smarter leaders---who know how to blunt the appeal of terrorists?

 

[Witling]

Termagant, with all due respect, your entry into this thread was one of the dumbest I've seen. "Proceed to kill everyone who violently reacts." First, this would be extremely repugnant to a great percentage of the U.S. population. Second, it would cause further separation from mainstream world opinion. Third, imagine this, here I am, big, fat, dumb and happy. I don't want to enter the fray. But, you kill my uncle. For every person you kill, you're creating more people willing to engage in violence. Fourth, you've got to be able to catch the people who engage inviolent acts. That's our problem now.

Here's a little thought problem for you. Israel has pushed the acceptable levels for killing people who violently oppose them. How well has this worked for them?

 

[dmcowen674]

It's all Clinton's fault

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It's all Clinton's fault

Yes it is, if he hadn't start this whole "we should replace Saddam" thing years ago Bush never would have came up with the idea to invade. 🙂

 

[Blackjack2000]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It's all Clinton's fault

Yes it is, if he hadn't start this whole "we should replace Saddam" thing years ago Bush never would have came up with the idea to invade. 🙂

I blame that too, but I think it was Clinton's "we should start an illegal war on fabricated premises" that's the heart of the issue."

 

[Lemon law]

Lets just trace this whole damn mess back to Adam and Eve---even though I felt GWB was making a big mistake invading Iraq---we are in the mess now---how do we now deal with this mess is the only question worth asking.

Which means all options should be on the table---with some doubt cast on the wisdom of the idiot who
made the decision.---and said idiot was GWB&co.---and no other.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Lets just trace this whole damn mess back to Adam and Eve---even though I felt GWB was making a big mistake invading Iraq---we are in the mess now---how do we now deal with this mess is the only question worth asking.

Which means all options should be on the table---with some doubt cast on the wisdom of the idiot who
made the decision.---and said idiot was GWB&co.---and no other.

Well, hell yeah . . the 'Garden of Eden' has been placed by biblical scholars as being located
about 70 miles South of what is the present position of today's Baghdad.

So who doe's that make the snake out to be in today's times -
who can you think of that hisses like a snake when they speak?

"Terrosissssssstsssss"

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It's all Clinton's fault

Yes it is, if he hadn't start this whole "we should replace Saddam" thing years ago Bush never would have came up with the idea to invade. 🙂

OMG, you're such a liar. Have you read that resolution? Of course you have, but you'd rather lie.

 

[her209]

Only fools rush in.

 

[ebaycj]

Originally posted by: her209
Only fools rush in.

 

[Hacp]

The Republican Party is a haven for terrists.

 

[GrGr]

Aha so Al Qaida wants to "stay the course" too... :roll:

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
It's all Clinton's fault

Yes it is, if he hadn't start this whole "we should replace Saddam" thing years ago Bush never would have came up with the idea to invade. 🙂

PNAC: The official US policy towards Iraq should be regime change by any means necessary regardless of the consequences.

Clinton: The official US policy towards Iraq is to favor regime change.

Bush: The official US policy towards Iraq is to favor regime change by any means possible regardless of the consequences. Then we will create a democracy in Iraq that will transform the Middle East.

 

[zephyrprime]

We played right into Bin Laden's hand by invading Iraq. Bin Laden actually had little support in the Middle East before Iraq. His complaints against the US (Embargo against Iraq, US Support of Israel, US Miltary bases in Saudi Arabia) were not seen as being substantial enough by most Arabs. Now, he is a hero to people in the middle east.

 

[alien42]

the CIA concluded long ago that bin laden wanted bush to be re-elected.