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Al Gore

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Gore is both an elitist and a hypocrite. He has an extravagant lifestyle and hasn't made any meaningful personal sacrifices for his cause. He purchases carbon credits because he's rich enough to afford them. Why doesn't he sell 2 of his 3 homes and stop traveling in private jets? Then he can purchase carbon credits and have them actually help reduce carbon emissions instead of using them as a tool to rationalize and offset his high carbon emission lifestyle.

But, like the elitist he is, he wants you and me to make the sacrifices. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for tree-planting and renewable energy, but this guy reeks of hypocrisy and the Libs don't seem to care. What gives?
 
Originally posted by: Corbett
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Hypocrite or not, his message is right.
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Were you saying the same about Ted Haggard?
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Why would I say his Homophobic beliefs were right when they are clearly wrong?



Originally posted by: Red Dawn
America would also have been better off if he had been elected instead of Bush.
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Yeah, because Al Gore was so poised after he lost wasnt he? You know, with that mental breakdown and all he had after he LOST![/quote]What Mental breakdown? Even if he wasn't so poised after his defeat he as President wouldn't have fscked over America as bad as Bush has.

 
Hum.. I don't see the point... his house consumes 12 times what the average house does.... but considering it's a 20 bedrooms/8 bathrooms house why shouldn't it?
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Even if he wasn't so poised after his defeat he as President wouldn't have fscked over America as bad as Bush has.
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
raise your hand if you're just now figuring out that Gore is a hypocritical douchebag...
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Really. What has Gore done worse than your hero Bush???
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Even if he wasn't so poised after his defeat he as President wouldn't have fscked over America as bad as Bush has.
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
raise your hand if you're just now figuring out that Gore is a hypocritical douchebag...
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Really. What has Gore done worse than your hero Bush???
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apples and oranges make apple-flavored orange juice... or is it orange-flavored apple juice?

hmm... im thirsty.
 
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Even if he wasn't so poised after his defeat he as President wouldn't have fscked over America as bad as Bush has.
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
raise your hand if you're just now figuring out that Gore is a hypocritical douchebag...
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Really. What has Gore done worse than your hero Bush???
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apples and oranges make apple-flavored orange juice... or is it orange-flavored apple juice?

hmm... im thirsty.
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That's the best you got? :laugh:
 
Al Gore can use all the energy he wants, own as many mansions and fly in as many private jets as he wants as well.
But when he starts to preach about saving the earth through energy conservation and the like then he has to take the heat for living the life style he does lead.
Same with John ?two Americas? Edwards and his 20,000+ sq ft home.

Republicans don?t think it is a sin to live in a big house, or make lots of money and have an extravagant life style. It is Democrats who act like that is a crime.
If Al Gore was really serious about saving energy he could sell his house to an evil Republican and move to a more modest, say 10 room 4 bathroom, house.
Instead this seems like another case of ?do as I say, not as I do? limousine liberalism.
 
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How much energy has Bush wasted on his fools war in Iraq, I wonder. Think it's more than Gore. Think we would have more energy today if the Supreme Coup hadn't selected the fool?
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Derail this topic because you don't like it?

Maybe if the messenger practiced what he preached he might not be under such scrutiny. Also doesn?t help that he gets such wide dogmatic celebration and publicity. Such things also makes him more of a target.
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What I find cute is that the rules of successful debate are completely ignored in Politics.

You don't shoot the Messenger because is represents attacking the person and not the issue. And we all know which logical fallacy that is.
 
Originally posted by: Tango
Hum.. I don't see the point... his house consumes 12 times what the average house does.... but considering it's a 20 bedrooms/8 bathrooms house why shouldn't it?
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Hum... I don't see the point... SUVs consume much more gas than a hybrid does.... but considering it's a much bigger vehicle with much more power why shouldn't it?

🙂
 
Originally posted by: Rangoric
Originally posted by: Jaskalas
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
How much energy has Bush wasted on his fools war in Iraq, I wonder. Think it's more than Gore. Think we would have more energy today if the Supreme Coup hadn't selected the fool?
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Derail this topic because you don't like it?

Maybe if the messenger practiced what he preached he might not be under such scrutiny. Also doesn?t help that he gets such wide dogmatic celebration and publicity. Such things also makes him more of a target.
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What I find cute is that the rules of successful debate are completely ignored in Politics.

You don't shoot the Messenger because is represents attacking the person and not the issue. And we all know which logical fallacy that is.
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Why do one when we can have both? If Gore wasn?t putting himself up on a pedestal telling us to do what he is unwilling to do, then he wouldn?t be targeted. This topic was about scrutinizing the messenger, if you?d like to debate global warming you know where to find that topic.

You also know where to find states that build a consensus by banishing scientists who dare to think for themselves instead of using this dogmatic religion. Does that play into the rules of successful debate?
 
dmcowen674, in case you haven't noticed, this thread is about Gore, not Bush. If your only defense for Gore is go off topic and slam Bush, then you have no rational defense.

If you want to intelligently discuss the topic, please do so. Otherwise, you might want to look for another thread that's more appropriate for your incessant regurgitation of anti-Bush rants.
 
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
dmcowen674, in case you haven't noticed, this thread is about Gore, not Bush. If your only defense for Gore is go off topic and slam Bush, then you have no rational defense.

If you want to intelligently discuss the topic, please do so. Otherwise, you might want to look for another thread that's more appropriate for your incessant regurgitation of anti-Bush rants.
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It's appropriate because you and your fellow Bush supporters are jumping all over Gore as if he was the President.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And don't forget Reagan who pulled down the solar stuff on the White House that Carter put up.
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Still trying to derail the topic I see, unfortunately, it's not working...
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
dmcowen674, in case you haven't noticed, this thread is about Gore, not Bush. If your only defense for Gore is go off topic and slam Bush, then you have no rational defense.

If you want to intelligently discuss the topic, please do so. Otherwise, you might want to look for another thread that's more appropriate for your incessant regurgitation of anti-Bush rants.
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It's appropriate because you and your fellow Bush supporters are jumping all over Gore as if he was the President.
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Oh, I didn't realize that we weren't allowed to criticize anyone but the President. :roll:
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Al Gore can use all the energy he wants, own as many mansions and fly in as many private jets as he wants as well.
But when he starts to preach about saving the earth through energy conservation and the like then he has to take the heat for living the life style he does lead.
Same with John ?two Americas? Edwards and his 20,000+ sq ft home.

Republicans don?t think it is a sin to live in a big house, or make lots of money and have an extravagant life style. It is Democrats who act like that is a crime.
If Al Gore was really serious about saving energy he could sell his house to an evil Republican and move to a more modest, say 10 room 4 bathroom, house.
Instead this seems like another case of ?do as I say, not as I do? limousine liberalism.
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Right, he should sell a home that is huge and efficiently managed to some energy hog prick of a Republican so they can light it up like a Christmas tree for the whole world to see and, in his small mind, envy.

Clearly what we need to do as part of a strategy to save this country from the energy disaster it has become is to confiscate large and inefficient holdings owned by Republicans and turn them over to people like Gore. We would not allow Mexico to build machines that suck all the oxygen out of the earth's atmosphere so this Republican crap about make and spend all you want doesn't cut it either. If we allow all our hogs to eat at the dinner table humanity would soon starve.
 
LOL Moonbeam...assuming that you're trying to be humorous.

dmcowen674, nobody's 'jumping all over Gore as if he was the President'...where do you come up with this kind of stuff? I'm beginning to worry about you. Please make an attempt to be rational or I'm going to have to call your Mommy.
 
The 'ends justifies the means' concept definately applies to Gore and what he does. Can't say the same for who Bush is and what he has done.

It is nearly the definition of irony to see a Rep call anyone else a hypocrite.
 
Originally posted by: JD50
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And don't forget Reagan who pulled down the solar stuff on the White House that Carter put up.
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Still trying to derail the topic I see, unfortunately, it's not working...
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Are you trying to tell me that you have a better grasp of what the topic is than I do? I certainly hope not because that would be profoundly arrogant. It would imply that you have a better grasp of all sorts of cognitive and comprehension functions than I do.

Let me see, some absurd nincompoop posts something about how much electricity Gore's house uses and a bunch of right winged fruitcakes, who voted for Bush and his disastrous war, and who have not properly committed Seppuku as a result, now start coming all over themselves with slavering glee, and into the absurd circle-jerk joke I decide to demonstrate, by reflection, the incredible stupidity being slurped up by such idiots, and now all of a sudden you want to make the issue about me? Hehe, good luck with that.
 
Originally posted by: Craig234
And he pays for offsets so his energy use is carbon neutral. Do you, since you inaccurately attack him for not being 'green'?
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Originally posted by: Tab
......I think there's something else we ought to be looking at besides the power consumption of Gore's mansion. He's a millionare and millionares tend to have big homes that take up a lot of juice............

.............He's a wealthy man and I don't why anyone shouldn't be able to enjoy what they've earned. Do you think he should be living in a small 3 bedroom house? I feel like I am repeating myself but the above average power consumption isn't the issuse it's the nature of the use.............
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Originally posted by: Tango
Hum.. I don't see the point... his house consumes 12 times what the average house does.... but considering it's a 20 bedrooms/8 bathrooms house why shouldn't it?
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After intitially reading this thread I wasn't gonna post, this is merely a repeat of a previous post here.

However, I came back because the above thoughts expressed by various members struck me as quite odd. People seem to be saying that because he's rich it's OK for him to consume more than others, giant mansions and private jets are certainly not necessary but OK cause he's rich?

So, rich people are allowed more emissions than poorer ones just because of their money? It's all OK cuz he can afford to pay for offsets?

So I guess the USA, being the richest nation, is likewise allowed to have higher consumption/emissions than poorer countries?

Better get a memo on this out to the rest of the world, they seem confused and assert exactly the opposite.

Oh, and you might add in your memo since tons of USA scientists are researching global warming and raising awareness, the benefit more than outweighs the cost (of our emissions).

Fern
 
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