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Airlines are jacked up!

FM2n

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Dammnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!! My scheduled 7:45pm flight got canceled because of mechanical problems. They decommissioned the plane and rolled out a new one. So they pushed my flight time now to 10:30PM. The lady saw that I was upset and gave me a $50 voucher for my next purchase and put me on standby for the 8PM flight.

Here's the kicker.. The 8PM standby flight is so full that they ask if there is anyone who was willing to go on a delayed flight.. In exchange, they will offer them a $100 credit for their next flight and they will credit them the cost of the current flight.

Cliffs:
- My flight gets delayed, I get $50 voucher.
- Voluntary delay, they get $100 + the cost of the flight

WTF!!!!!
 

Oil

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Your flight's delay was not the fault of the airline company but rather an unforeseen event (mechanical problems). The other flight was the fault of the airline (overbooking). I don't see a problem here
 

FM2n

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Your flight's delay was not the fault of the airline company but rather an unforeseen event (mechanical problems). The other flight was the fault of the airline (overbooking). I don't see a problem here

Good point.

Cliff: I hate it when you're right.
 

zoiks

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Your flight's delay was not the fault of the airline company but rather an unforeseen event (mechanical problems). The other flight was the fault of the airline (overbooking). I don't see a problem here

Uhh. A mechanical problem is the fault of the airline company. Any problems dealing with weather might not be but if the fucking company didn't maintain their shitty plane, it is their god damn fault.
I hate airlines.
 

coxmaster

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Uhh. A mechanical problem is the fault of the airline company. Any problems dealing with weather might not be but if the fucking company didn't maintain their shitty plane, it is their god damn fault.
I hate airlines.

Do you know what is involved with maintaining an airplane?

The scheduled maintenance is ridiculous for airliners, its not like they can just decide not to maintain stuff
 

zoiks

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Do you know what is involved with maintaining an airplane?

The scheduled maintenance is ridiculous for airliners, its not like they can just decide not to maintain stuff

Wow. So it's complicated so they're off the hook. If you plan to, charge for and provide a service for passengers to fly on your plane, then you are responsible of taking care of your aircraft. You aren't off the hook if your pilot can't make it to the airport or if your employees went on strike or if your rust bucket of a plane wasn't maintained or needed to be maintained constantly due to it breaking down since you were too cheap to buy new ones.
 

coxmaster

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Wow. So it's complicated so they're off the hook. If you plan to, charge for and provide a service for passengers to fly on your plane, then you are responsible of taking care of your aircraft. You aren't off the hook if your pilot can't make it to the airport or if your employees went on strike or if your rust bucket of a plane wasn't maintained or needed to be maintained constantly due to it breaking down since you were too cheap to buy new ones.

People already complain about how expensive flying is, you really want to see how much those rates would go up it the airlines bought a new fleet every 5-10 years?

I'm not saying the airline is off the hook, im just saying that shit breaks; its not all the airlines fault.

Rust bucket.. lol :rolleyes:
 

AmdEmAll

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Wow. So it's complicated so they're off the hook. If you plan to, charge for and provide a service for passengers to fly on your plane, then you are responsible of taking care of your aircraft. You aren't off the hook if your pilot can't make it to the airport or if your employees went on strike or if your rust bucket of a plane wasn't maintained or needed to be maintained constantly due to it breaking down since you were too cheap to buy new ones.

So its the airlines fault when a part breaks on a plane? Its not like they can see into the future and know when things will break.. wtf? The overbooking of planes is the problem nowadays.. they overbook most flights on purpose because there is usually a % of people who dont show up last minute.
 

Bignate603

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Wow. So it's complicated so they're off the hook. If you plan to, charge for and provide a service for passengers to fly on your plane, then you are responsible of taking care of your aircraft. You aren't off the hook if your pilot can't make it to the airport or if your employees went on strike or if your rust bucket of a plane wasn't maintained or needed to be maintained constantly due to it breaking down since you were too cheap to buy new ones.

So you know exactly when every single part on your car is going to need to be replaced? You can follow every single schedule in the world and some things will still break when you don't expect it.

I work in turbine engine design, and can tell you that while we do everything to make things reliable, set the service intervals very conservatively, and require certain inspections frequently, there are still things that pop up every once and a while that no one could have predicted. Even if they think the plane is most likely safe they won't let it take off until it meets very stringent requirements. Erring on the side of safety will cause an extra delay once and a while but because of the rules the safety record of the US airlines in recent years is very good.

Delays are annoying, but I'll take a rare mechanical delay over more accidents.
 

rockyct

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I don't see a point in bitching about mechanical delays. Look at it this way...maybe if they hadn't replaced that part, the flaps would have sheared off, or something like that.

They suck, but it would suck more if they didn't fix the problem.
 
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there is such a thing as unscheduled maintenance. however, this does not change the fact that the airline industry should be put out of its, and our, misery. let them fail and maybe someone competent will step up.
 

kami333

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Mechanical issues are the airlines fault and will generally get you compensation if warranted. Same with crew staffing problems.

Weather and ATC delays are generally lumped under acts of God and will not get you compensation unless very severe.
 

coxmaster

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Mechanical issues are the airlines fault and will generally get you compensation if warranted. Same with crew staffing problems.

Weather and ATC delays are generally lumped under acts of God and will not get you compensation unless very severe.

Ive never seen them compensate anyone following a maintenance delay (unless you miss a connection, but thats different)
 

kami333

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jteef

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a $100 voucher is weak. about 20/30 flights i flew this year on delta they were offering $400 vouchers. if you get involuntarily bumped I think you're eligible for up to 800 bucks.