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Airbus wins largest single order in aviation history

DesiPower

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Nice, take business from US and send business to France!! Global economy FTW!

@ OP - you live in France?
 

freegeeks

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Nice, take business from US and send business to France!! Global economy FTW!

@ OP - you live in France?

nope, Belgium

and btw there are also US firms involved in this

"The geared turbofan engine by United Technologies Corp.’s Pratt & Whitney unit and the Leap-X from CFM International, the venture of General Electric Co. and Safran SA of France, are the choices on the new A320. The current IndiGo fleet uses engines from International Aero Engines, a venture led by Pratt & Whitney and London-based Rolls-Royce Group Plc."
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
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The B737 has been long in the tooth for far too long.

It's not just these India-based airlines but look at JetBlue, Virgin America, etc. There is a reason that the A318/319/320/321 aircraft is the go-to airframe of choice for so many.

You snooze, you lose Boeing. Where's that 787?
 

Craig234

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Good to see a huge civilian industry purchase, instead of the welfare military industry that's so dangerous.
 

glenn1

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Nice, take business from US and send business to France!! Global economy FTW!

@ OP - you live in France?

If it wasn't Airbus it could have easily been Embraer instead; while the E195 is a bit smaller than the A320 it could have been selected due to its far lower cost.
 

drebo

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Nice, take business from US and send business to France!! Global economy FTW!

@ OP - you live in France?

Wait a minute... you're complaining about a foreign company selling goods to another foreign company that were made in a foreign nation?

Er...does not compute.
 

PottedMeat

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nope, Belgium

and btw there are also US firms involved in this

"The geared turbofan engine by United Technologies Corp.’s Pratt & Whitney unit and the Leap-X from CFM International, the venture of General Electric Co. and Safran SA of France, are the choices on the new A320. The current IndiGo fleet uses engines from International Aero Engines, a venture led by Pratt & Whitney and London-based Rolls-Royce Group Plc."

you can't really tell where stuff is made/designed anymore with these huge companies.
 

Schadenfroh

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I was hoping this would be an announcement about Airbus winning the Air Force Tanker bid.

Good to see a huge civilian industry purchase, instead of the welfare military industry that's so dangerous.

The Common Defense clause can be just as fun as the General Welfare Clause. ;)
 

iGas

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The B737 has been long in the tooth for far too long.

It's not just these India-based airlines but look at JetBlue, Virgin America, etc. There is a reason that the A318/319/320/321 aircraft is the go-to airframe of choice for so many.

You snooze, you lose Boeing. Where's that 787?
Delayed.
 

manimal

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you guys realize that many parts for airbus are made in the US as well? Multi-national corporations like the Umbrella corporation are the new norm....
 

manimal

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Funny how some people think offense is a synonym for defense.

when I hear general defense claus i think of a guy with a white beard who wears red and brings death to the little children once a year if they are good....er bad..
 

K1052

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The B737 has been long in the tooth for far too long.

It's not just these India-based airlines but look at JetBlue, Virgin America, etc. There is a reason that the A318/319/320/321 aircraft is the go-to airframe of choice for so many.

You snooze, you lose Boeing. Where's that 787?

IIRC, both Boeing and Airbus have about the same order backlog for their narrow bodies (2000s range).
 

rudder

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The B737 has been long in the tooth for far too long.

It's not just these India-based airlines but look at JetBlue, Virgin America, etc. There is a reason that the A318/319/320/321 aircraft is the go-to airframe of choice for so many.

You snooze, you lose Boeing. Where's that 787?

wha?

Unless you are thinking of the original 737's with straight turbojet engines sure... but the 737 is a very capable aircraft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_737_Next_Generation
 
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-...320-jets-largest-single-order-in-history.html


I live close to a factory that makes stuff for the A320. This $14 billion order should be good for the employment

Not exactly, so much is automated, you can just produce as much as you want without hiring more people.

I gotta say though I've never felt shudders on takeoff in Boeings. The Airbus a380's I've flown on though all had a horrible shudder right after takeoff for about 5 seconds. It was a harmonic frequency vibration at a specific engine RPM with extra strain on the wings while the noise was pulling up. Felt it twice both on the flight to, and from, my destinations, on two different occasions for a total of 4 flights. I can't help but wonder if they've not been as thorough as Boeing is being with their dreamliner tests.

At any rate, the shipping market is still Boeings, you can't get the noise high enough on landing while still seeing the runway to be able to pack them with maximum weight.

Just general oversights that make me skeptical and more interested in trusting Boeing. If airlines can hold out for the 787s, they're going to get one hell of a plane.
 
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techs

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If Reagan hadn't been President all the large airliners would still be made in the U.S.
 

finglobes

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you guys realize that many parts for airbus are made in the US as well? Multi-national corporations like the Umbrella corporation are the new norm....


The aviation industry is especially noted for companies cross suppling each other.
 

Specop 007

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Good to see a huge civilian industry purchase, instead of the welfare military industry that's so dangerous.

True, because when we invest in military technology we get trickle down effect from it improving our every day lives. When we invest in Shaniqua's 5 kids we get...high crime.

Definitely hate that welfare military industry.
 

freegeek

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Not exactly, so much is automated, you can just produce as much as you want without hiring more people.

I gotta say though I've never felt shudders on takeoff in Boeings. The Airbus a380's I've flown on though all had a horrible shudder right after takeoff for about 5 seconds. It was a harmonic frequency vibration at a specific engine RPM with extra strain on the wings while the noise was pulling up. Felt it twice both on the flight to, and from, my destinations, on two different occasions for a total of 4 flights. I can't help but wonder if they've not been as thorough as Boeing is being with their dreamliner tests.

At any rate, the shipping market is still Boeings, you can't get the noise high enough on landing while still seeing the runway to be able to pack them with maximum weight.

Just general oversights that make me skeptical and more interested in trusting Boeing. If airlines can hold out for the 787s, they're going to get one hell of a plane.

whatever, they are both very capable in making big, safe planes