air traffic noise

[rh71]

anyone else experience a lot of air traffic noise near your house? They recently changed flight paths around JFK (apparently those who were getting it before complained and they rerouted here) and now the middle of suburban Long Island is getting bombarded with traffic. I'm talking one plane every few minutes overhead - they fly so low I read Qatar on the bottom of one of them. It's like I'm living in the city again. I can hear it while working in my home office when I've got headphones on. There's plenty of water around us they can fly over (shouldn't they anyway?) and both major airports are on the shores... this makes no sense.

So far in 2011, I've had 57,000+ planes go over this area. And I thought the fucking landscapers were bad.

 

[rudder]

You can't always take off towards the water.. the winds dictate what runway is used. When wind is not a factor it will be based on other traffic in the area. There is traffic coming/going from La Guardia that has to be factored in.

 

[lxskllr]

You should have looked into the claim "Convenient access to transportation" before buying ;^)

 

[TangoJuliet]

anyone else experience a lot of air traffic noise near your house? They recently changed flight paths around JFK (apparently those who were getting it before complained and they rerouted here) and now the middle of suburban Long Island is getting bombarded with traffic. I'm talking one plane every few minutes overhead - they fly so low I read Qatar on the bottom of one of them. It's like I'm living in the city again. I can hear it while working in my home office when I've got headphones on. There's plenty of water around us they can fly over (shouldn't they anyway?) and both major airports are on the shores... this makes no sense.

So far in 2011, I've had 57,000+ planes go over this area. And I thought the fucking landscapers were bad.

Is it arriving or departing traffic or both? I'm not sure if you'd know.

 

[LTC8K6]

Obama is flying in very soon for the tree lighting, iirc.

 

[Linflas]

We have a small private airport not far from where we live so we get a fair amount of small aircraft flying around but they are not all that loud. Depending on the weather we do have some Dulles arrival traffic fly by as well but again they are normally high enough to not be all that loud.

As an aside one of my most vivid memories of 9/11 aside from the obvious was those few days afterwards when all air traffic was grounded. It is amazing just how much background noise is caused by air traffic and how noticeable the absence of it was for those few days.

 

[nageov3t]

I've lived a few miles away from Newark airport since I was 8... it's all white noise at this point.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Departing traffic is when you will hear the most noise.

If you continue to have problems; contact the FAA.

 

[OutHouse]

I live north of Denver International and its not bad. if the planes are taking off to the north by the time they get over my house they are at a min of 3,000 AGL. when the planes are landing to the south they come in pretty fricken low and normally on the final so the engines are idle or at low RPM. the ones that piss me off are the FedEx DC-10's good god those pilots must be reliving their fighter pilot days. they come in fucking LOW with all 3 engines screaming. they come in in twos about 10 min apart.

 

[Fear No Evil]

I live north of Denver International and its not bad. if the planes are taking off to the north by the time they get over my house they are at a min of 3,000 AGL. when the planes are landing to the south they come in pretty fricken low and normally on the final so the engines are idle or at low RPM. the ones that piss me off are the FedEx DC-10's good god those pilots must be reliving their fighter pilot days. they come in fucking LOW with all 3 engines screaming. they come in in twos about 10 min apart.

Maybe it has something to do with the amount of weight they are carrying?

 

[kmcrowl]

You will get used to it after a while. After a few months you will not even notice.

 

[Demo24]

Maybe it has something to do with the amount of weight they are carrying?

Not likely as the weight won't be any more than it could be on a passenger version. The DC10 is an older aircraft though with an older engine design (unless fedex put new ones in), most likely that noise is just a biproduct of the air speeds and the turbine fans spinning much slower than takeoff.

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I also live under a flight path for those heading north from ATL, but we are far enough away that the planes are usually 20k+ feet up by then so you'd have to listen for it. Occasionally we get smaller private jets from Athens flying over at lower altitudes.

 

[BurnItDwn]

When I was young I lived in Des Plains, IL. The house was about 2 miles from O'Hare Airport.

Anyhow, I could read the bottom of a plane every 2-3 minutes every day for about 12 years until I moved to another suburb. It was friggin loud.

Now I live about 25 miles North Northwest of the old house, and the planes are usually high enough that they are not audible to me.

 

[HydroSqueegee]

i live about a mile from the AFB runway. Thank god we have C-17's and C-5's. Planes are fairly infrequent except when one is flying around doing manuvers for hours at a time. Mostly we get little single props from the Aero Club on base flying overhead. Im just glad we dont have fighters. those things are insufferable. the F-4's were LOUD back in the late 80's before they retired them, and they flew right over our house so low you could read the writing on the belly.

 

[nanette1985]

I agree, recently the air traffic has been different. Planes are higher over here in my neck of the tri-state woods but there are now more of them, they're louder, they are on different routes than previously. They've always been northwest to southeast but now there are several going the opposite direction at the same time. Feels like there's something odd going on.

/not an air travel expert, obviously

Oh, and the landscapers are in full leaf & landscape mode and frigging ridiculous.

 

[Modelworks]

Spent time at my mothers, she is near a naval air station. The jets fly close enough to the ground you can almost see the pilot . They are not supposed to break the sound barrier over residential areas but she lives in a rural area and they seem to have no problem with rattling windows.

 

[sunzt]

The FAA recently reorganized the new york metroplex airspace which is why you are noticing different patterns. This reorganization essentially allows for more airspace capacity, higher arrival/departure rates, and streamlined routes for better traffic flow management and safety.

The reason you're hearing more noise is because the noise studies that were done when doing this reorganization determined that routing traffic over your area allowed the areas with more people/$ to have less air traffic noise while still providing optimum routes.

 

[rh71]

to answer a previous question - they are supposedly for arrivals on runway 22L into JFK - I'm 30mi. northeast of JFK but they fly south->north overhead, which logically means they're circling for a landing. But... 30 miles away??? LaGuardia is 30mi. northwest and MacArthur is 30mi. east - makes no sense to be flying dead center of the island, dead center of all 3 airports.

The FAA recently reorganized the new york metroplex airspace which is why you are noticing different patterns. This reorganization essentially allows for more airspace capacity, higher arrival/departure rates, and streamlined routes for better traffic flow management and safety.

The reason you're hearing more noise is because the noise studies that were done when doing this reorganization determined that routing traffic over your area allowed the areas with more people/$ to have less air traffic noise while still providing optimum routes.

well more people/$ doesn't make sense... the people who live on the shores where the airports are MAY have more money but the population is definitely less dense. I heard a few communities complained, so it could be them - now the majority of the island is getting it instead? You'd think they're getting noise anyway if the airports are right on top of them to begin with. Another thing is they've ALWAYS been getting it - we bought this house last year (same town I grew up in) and there was NEVER any noise until this summer, so this isn't exactly fair to do to homeowners, especially new. At least those people in the previous fly-over zones knew what they were buying into, and prices may reflect that.

The only thing I'm concerned with is - this better be temporary. I don't go to town hearings but I will for this.

 

[BoomerD]

i live about a mile from the AFB runway. Thank god we have C-17's and C-5's. Planes are fairly infrequent except when one is flying around doing manuvers for hours at a time. Mostly we get little single props from the Aero Club on base flying overhead. Im just glad we dont have fighters. those things are insufferable. the F-4's were LOUD back in the late 80's before they retired them, and they flew right over our house so low you could read the writing on the belly.

We lived about a mile off the end of the runway at Hill AFB in Utah many years ago. The F-16's were FUCKING LOUD when they took off...they'd rattle the gravel on the tin roofs of the carports.

 

[Linflas]

We lived about a mile off the end of the runway at Hill AFB in Utah many years ago. The F-16's were FUCKING LOUD when they took off...they'd rattle the gravel on the tin roofs of the carports.

You want loud try sleeping underneath an F-4 doing full power turn ups on the flight deck of a carrier.

 

[DaTT]

I have family up in Thunder Bay, Ontario. They have a cottage on Lake Superior and from time to time whilst sitting on the patio, a fleet of F-18's fly overhead to refuel at the airport. I don't mind that kind of air traffic noise.

 

[lxskllr]

When my brother lived in Norfolk, he was 500' from freight train tracks, and really close to an airport(don't know exactly how close). That was the noisiest damned place I've ever been. The house pretty much shook all day long. You kind of got used to it, but not really.

 

[Saint Nick]

If you get a five kill streak you can get a SAM turret. I think that would be beneficial to you

 

[KeithP]

Forget the noise, just think of all the toxic soot coming out of their exhaust that is coming down on top of you and will end up in your lungs.

-KeithP

 

[lord_emperor]

They recently changed flight paths around JFK (apparently those who were getting it before complained and they rerouted here) and now the middle of suburban Long Island is getting bombarded with traffic.

Complain yourself and get it moved back where it was, after all those people knew about the noise going in right?