air cooled 3770k 4.6 fully stable.worth delid?

[grkM3]

I just got an ivy and its running at 4.6 with 1.17-1.18 volts and its very stable and I get about 84-91 max temps running intel burn test,8 threads,sp1 avx etc.

I can up the voltage to 1.210 and get 4.7ghx stable but the temps hit 103c and The sweet spot is right around 4.5-4.6 for temp wise.

do you guys think deliding will get 4.8ghz stable?

here is where Im at now and I can run 32m pi and cinbench at the same time,its rock solid stable at these settings

 

[WaTaGuMp]

Only one way to find out. We know delidding brings temps down, but doesn't always mean higher stable overclock.

 

[grkM3]

Only one way to find out. We know delidding brings temps down, but doesn't always mean higher stable overclock.

Iv noticed that with the 22nm chips,they are not like sandys that had so much headroom in overclocking and you have a way smaller gap from going 100% stable then 50mhz later system freeze and reboot

 

[Face2Face]

I would. Do you need an extra 200mhz? probably not. Do you want it? Hell yeah. I am going to be delidding mine soon and running 5.0ghz. With an H220 of course. I have a 2600k as backup if I mess anything up.


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[taq8ojh]

I just got an ivy and its running at 4.6 with 1.17-1.18 volts and its very stable and I get about 84-91 max temps running intel burn test,8 threads,sp1 avx etc.

I can up the voltage to 1.210 and get 4.7ghx stable but the temps hit 103c and The sweet spot is right around 4.5-4.6 for temp wise.

do you guys think deliding will get 4.8ghz stable?

here is where Im at now and I can run 32m pi and cinbench at the same time,its rock solid stable at these settings

Dude, try running Prime95 for 6 hours and then come back saying you're stable I am almost
certain you are not.
I know lots of people would argue otherwise, but IBT is NOT a good indicator of stability.

Still very good CPU though, considering that vcore.

 

[grkM3]

Dude, try running Prime95 for 6 hours and then come back saying you're stable I am almost
certain you are not.
I know lots of people would argue otherwise, but IBT is NOT a good indicator of stability.

Still very good CPU though, considering that vcore.

trust me its stable,I can get intel burn test to run at 1.15 and prime to run for an hour but it wont complete one pass with cinbench that pushes all cores and the memory system.

prime is a joke compared to intel burn test as prime does not use avx instruction sets

I run 4 instances of pi 32m to test the memory system and then loop one instance of 32m and run a cinebench at the same time.If you can get your system to pass that and loop 5 passes of intel burntest set to high and 8 threads you are stable my friend and running 6 hours of prime does nothing but beat the crap out of your chip and the vrms on your mother board.most times you will end up with a fail at that time because of your ram and board causing it also.

I just lowered the voltage to run prime for you but I know it wont pass a looped cinbench run but if it makes you happy I can post an hour(I wont go longer)of it running prime with ease with an even lower vcore then I posted above and it will show that prime is not a solid way to get a system stable.

 

[taq8ojh]

prime is a joke compared to intel burn test as prime does not use avx instruction sets

jesus

 

[grkM3]

Here is me beating the crap out of my motherboard for you lol all vrms enabled and set to max current and the switching set to 1100khz

I actually ran 30 min at 4.7ghz this way last night but burn test was hitting almost 100c keep in mind this is air cooling and my case is closed,Im using a corsair basic aircooler with a 120mm fan on it

 

[taq8ojh]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime95
Your argument is invalid.

 

[Ken g6]

prime is a joke compared to intel burn test as prime does not use avx instruction sets

I happen to know that Prime95 makes extensive use of AVX. It has for over a year.

 

[grkM3]

darn it I just wasted running 30 min with the version I had,I dl prime when I first bought my 2600k with this board and build and I don't know if the version I am running supports avx its version 26.6 build 3

 

[LagunaX]

1) Yeah Prime95 has had AVX for about a year now,
2) Yes, definitely delid using the vice method and liquid metal, and
3) Your sig is incorrect. An Asus MIVE is Z68, not P67.

Here is my 3770k delidded and after a successful 45min run of IBT on MAX ram:

http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179430

 

[grkM3]

I downloaded an updated prime version and now testing at 4.7ghz with 1.232 volts

And my SIG is correct I have the Maximus IV Extreme ,mive lol It was like 379 bucks when I got it

this is my board

http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_IV_EXTREME/

 

[LagunaX]

Good luck with the delidding.
You have a rare board the MIVE's are mostly the z68 Gene-Z.

 

[WaTaGuMp]

I dont consider my system stable with just Prime or IBT. I have passed both of those yet crashed in BF3 and Crysis 3. A stable PC does what you build it for, not just pass benchmarks and stress tests.

 

[grkM3]

Good luck with the delidding.
You have a rare board the MIVE's are mostly the z68 Gene-Z.

Thanks man! Its the best over clocking board I ever had and ended up buying 2 of them.I benched my 2600 and 2500ks past 5.4ghz with these boards.I first bought the gigabyte extreme udh of what ever is was and the pos was stuck at 4.3-4.4 GHz max and these boards are 100x better.

You can pick up a p67 mive for about 120 on eBay and hands down will over clock like mad for anyone that wants to try one out.

 

[cytg111]

Only one way to find out. We know delidding brings temps down, but doesn't always mean higher stable overclock.

Yea, but this guy *is* stable, he is just reaching into throttle territory (sounds like a good chip).

OP, you gotta weigh the risc of the procedure vs another 100-200mhz on top. Thats some math you have to do for yourself. To me it wouldnt be worth it but 10 years ago i woulda done it without blinking, so...

 

[cytg111]

Thanks man! Its the best over clocking board I ever had and ended up buying 2 of them.I benched my 2600 and 2500ks past 5.4ghz with these boards.I first bought the gigabyte extreme udh of what ever is was and the pos was stuck at 4.3-4.4 GHz max and these boards are 100x better.

You can pick up a p67 mive for about 120 on eBay and hands down will over clock like mad for anyone that wants to try one out.

... Interesting friggin point ? Never thought about the mainboard holding an overclock back anything like that, what you're saying is that you got another 1 GHz overclock out of the same chips just by switching boards? Is that right?

 

[grkM3]

Well I have good news and bad,delided dropped temps and had it running at 4.9and hitting 83-84 temps and I put pressure on the heat sink and saw the temps fluctuate so I shut it down and went to tighten up the screws on the back of the board and I slipped and scored the board and it looks like a few traces broke.

I crossed my fingers and booted it up and I got a min of releaf when it posted and booted into windows but I noticed half my ram was gone and men bench showed single channel so it looks like my board is gone.

That's what I get for trying to rush things before heading to work.I already ordered another board lol but man I have the worst luck with stuff like this.

 

[grkM3]

... Interesting friggin point ? Never thought about the mainboard holding an overclock back anything like that, what you're saying is that you got another 1 GHz overclock out of the same chips just by switching boards? Is that right?

Yes the mainboard is a huge important factor on overclocks and is the reason why the top end boards are 400 bucks.

Here is this same board with my 2600k running at 5.1ghz with very good air cooling and this board has benched at 5.5ghz with water cooling and 1.630 volts going into my 2600k