Air Compressor recommendations?

Drakkon

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Every year for xmas I get my dad some tool - years past it has been a drill press, table saw, I've practically furnished his toolshed - usually that tool ends up not being used and i just end up at his house using it more than him anyways:) This year the plans are for a air compressor...

I'm probably going Craftsman just because i know its a reliable brand. Any recommendations on size? 2 Gallon? 5 Gallon? 100 Gallon? I'm thinking mostly using it to fill car/bike tires and cleaning devices no major projects I wouldn't imagine...
 

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Originally posted by: tasmanian
Get him something like this. Its very nice to have if you travel or drive a lot. This is for tires, but it could probably clean stuff also.

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No. ;) The air compressor in that is for emergency use.

To clean things, you generally need an air compressor with a reserve of air - a tank.

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spidey07

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Do you have any desire for air tools? You can a pretty cheap one for 50-60 bucks if you don't.

Also I saw some pretty good deals from sears on compressors for Christmas, they may still be around.
 

Drakkon

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Get him something like this. Its very nice to have if you travel or drive a lot. This is for tires, but it could probably clean stuff also.

:laugh:

No. ;) The air compressor in that is for emergency use.

To clean things, you generally need an air compressor with a reserve of air - a tank.

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Thank you....yes I require a true compressor not a 12V emergency one.

I looked at that Craftsman one up close at Sears today - its really nice but its kinda heavy and not wheeled. Some of the other ones there were wheeled but cost like $50 more.
How is the quality of Campbell Hausfeld compared to Craftsman?
 

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Originally posted by: Drakkon
Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: tasmanian
Get him something like this. Its very nice to have if you travel or drive a lot. This is for tires, but it could probably clean stuff also.

:laugh:

No. ;) The air compressor in that is for emergency use.

To clean things, you generally need an air compressor with a reserve of air - a tank.

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Thank you....yes I require a true compressor not a 12V emergency one.

I looked at that Craftsman one up close at Sears today - its really nice but its kinda heavy and not wheeled. Some of the other ones there were wheeled but cost like $50 more.
How is the quality of Campbell Hausfeld compared to Craftsman?

For light duty use, either one should be OK.

The Craftsman one is more robust. If you want to get something that will last a long, long time, avoid oil-less compressors.

I was just trying to give you an idea of whats out there for 100 bucks.
 

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
the package deals at places like Lowes and HD are pretty good for the money.... compressor + tank and usually comes with 3 nail guns and maybe some adapters.... I bought one a few years ago, and I useit weekly for LOTS of different chores.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...-354-CPACK3&lpage=none

That's a pretty good deal, if you need all the stuff.

Bosch makes good stuff generally.
 

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Originally posted by: Eli
Originally posted by: Homerboy
the package deals at places like Lowes and HD are pretty good for the money.... compressor + tank and usually comes with 3 nail guns and maybe some adapters.... I bought one a few years ago, and I useit weekly for LOTS of different chores.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...-354-CPACK3&lpage=none

That's a pretty good deal, if you need all the stuff.

Bosch makes good stuff generally.

Well you can get similar craftsman and other manufacturers too. I just linked the first "set" I found. They are all solid enough for general home use and at sub $300 around the Holidays, it is definitely a deal.
 

Drakkon

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Thanks guys - there are tons of good deals on them right now - I was trying to stick under the $300 mark and nothing too massive due to my dad not really having the muscles to lug it around. I looked at the ones at lowes and it seems like they are of decent quality as well...decisions...decisions...
 

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we have a porter-cable pancake style one for small jobs. worked great when building walls in the basement. You want to look at the cubic feet per minute and not just the max psi rating. the more volume the faster it will pump up the tank and you will be able to run more tools with it, like sanders and impact wrenches that take a lot of volume of air.
 

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The most important question - what is the CFM requirements of ANY tool you might run on it.

5 gallon is considered the absolute minimum for a permanent install. Anything less is intended to be portable. Yes there are exceptions.

Filling tires, and using the little valve to blow air on stuff - can be accomplished with an emergency "tire inflator" and a seperate tank - costing you only about $30. But you can't really "DO" anything with that setup. I keep one of these tanks with about 60psi in my house - just in case a tire gets low. No need to drive to the station on a low tire. When it gets low I refill it.

Remember that Craftsmans legendary lifetime warranty doesn't apply to power tools. As long as you stick to well known brands you should be fine. Stay far away from anything from Harbor Freight tools - that store sells tools that work exactly once, then break.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...70-C2002-WK&lpage=none

I might consider adding this one to my xmas list myself, what a deal! It delivers 3.7cfm - enough for a 3/8 ratchet and impact wrench, and a sander, grinder, drill using it intermittently. Would be plenty to make hard jobs on the car easy.
 

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Originally posted by: bobdole369
The most important question - what is the CFM requirements of ANY tool you might run on it.

5 gallon is considered the absolute minimum for a permanent install. Anything less is intended to be portable. Yes there are exceptions.

Filling tires, and using the little valve to blow air on stuff - can be accomplished with an emergency "tire inflator" and a seperate tank - costing you only about $30. But you can't really "DO" anything with that setup. I keep one of these tanks with about 60psi in my house - just in case a tire gets low. No need to drive to the station on a low tire. When it gets low I refill it.

Remember that Craftsmans legendary lifetime warranty doesn't apply to power tools. As long as you stick to well known brands you should be fine. Stay far away from anything from Harbor Freight tools - that store sells tools that work exactly once, then break.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...70-C2002-WK&lpage=none

I might consider adding this one to my xmas list myself, what a deal! It delivers 3.7cfm - enough for a 3/8 ratchet and impact wrench, and a sander, grinder, drill using it intermittently. Would be plenty to make hard jobs on the car easy.

Not that I'm defending Harbor Freight, they generally sell garbage, but they do sell some name brand stuff at a fair price.

 

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Originally posted by: bobdole369
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...70-C2002-WK&lpage=none

I might consider adding this one to my xmas list myself, what a deal! It delivers 3.7cfm - enough for a 3/8 ratchet and impact wrench, and a sander, grinder, drill using it intermittently. Would be plenty to make hard jobs on the car easy.

That's a pretty good deal. Thanks!

It really depends on what OP needs to do with it. Since it's a gift for dad I say go all out and get him a nice one. Especially if the price is 300 bucks for a portable compressor - more power the better.
 

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Originally posted by: Homerboy
the package deals at places like Lowes and HD are pretty good for the money.... compressor + tank and usually comes with 3 nail guns and maybe some adapters.... I bought one a few years ago, and I useit weekly for LOTS of different chores.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn...-354-CPACK3&lpage=none

I have had this one for over 2 years, works great. I would also like to say that buying anything much less would be a waste of time, and money. I made the mistake of buying a cheapo $99 compressor from PEP boys years ago, lasted all of 4 hours, never again! Trust me, once you have a decent compressor and a few tools you'll wonder how you ever got along without it.
 

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Originally posted by: Drakkon
Every year for xmas I get my dad some tool - years past it has been a drill press, table saw, I've practically furnished his toolshed - usually that tool ends up not being used and i just end up at his house using it more than him anyways:) This year the plans are for a air compressor...

Why don't you get your father something for christmas that He wants and not what you want? No offense but that is clearly what is implied in your op.

 

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Originally posted by: Eli
Not that I'm defending Harbor Freight, they generally sell garbage, but they do sell some name brand stuff at a fair price.

harbor freight sells crap at a good price. As long as you know exactly what you are getting, then it can be a good decision to purchase products there. For example, if you buy a craftsman dewalt, or whatever compressor, you will need some tools. One of the big ones will be an impact gun and set of sockets.

If you are someone who uses impacts a lot (works on your own car, etc) then you should get a good set & gun, like craftsman, Ingersoll rand, matco, SK etc. If you MAY do some work in the future, or want to put some lag bolts into your deck or something once or twice, then you can pick up a gun and impact set from harbor freight.

A decent homeowner 1/2" impact gun (like a craftsman or husky) will cost you $50 to $90 and put out in the range of 250 ft/lbs. You may even get a few sockets with it (husky tends to put 4 or 5 imperial sockets in with a wrench) A set of 12 1/2" deep impact sockets will run in the range of $80-90 for craftsman, probably about $50 on sale. A full set of SK (10 short and deep sockets in metric and imperial) will be around $200. So a gun and a full set of sockets (40 sockets total to 3/4" size or so) from either will be in the $250 to $300 range. You won't have to worry about warranties, because for both you can just walk into any sears store and get a replacement.

At harbor freight, you can get way more for your money. A 1/2" impact will run you about $20-30 and put out 300 ft/lbs. It certainly will not handle abuse like a craftsman, IR, SK, etc will, but if you don't drop it off your house, you will be fine. It is so cheap, if you break it by running it over or something, just get another. If you run over a IR gun, you will probably break your driveway.

For sockets, a set usuallyr uns in the $10 range for short sockets and $12-20 for deep depending on how many you get. A huge set of 3/8 and 1/2" will cost you:

$14 - 3/8" short set (metric and imperial 16 sockets)
$20 - 3/8" deep set (metric and imperial 16 sockets)
$22 - 1/2" short set (metric and imperial 22 sockets)
$32 - 1/2" deep set (metric and imperial 22 sockets)
So a full set of everything you would probably ever need (76 sockets) would cost about $88 + the gun, so about $120.

If you want some more useful stuff, you can get an extension bar set for $10, universal impact joints for $10, a set of star/torx and hex impacts for $7-10 each. So now you have all the special sockets for another $40.

HEll, why stop? we still have extra cash. Lets get a 3/4" impact gun for $60 and a set of 3/4" impact sockets for $50. Now you have sockets for everything, all the way up to the axle nuts on your truck. And for less than a single impact set and gun from craftsman, IR SK, etc. Both sets of sockets have lifetime warranties, but for craftsman/husky you can walk into any store and get an immediate replacement if you break one. For harbor freight, if you break it you have to mail it somewhere (I think) and wait forever. Probably better just to buy a new set for the hassle. But at $6-10 a set, who cares? That is the price of a single impact from craftsman/husky.

By the way, I should say I probably have in the range of 300 impact sockets from tiny all the way past 2". Tools from just about every manufacturer you could think of. Craftsman, IR, husky, cobalt, SK, colman, yada yada. I have impact guns from 3/8" all the way to a full 1" with 1400 ft/lbs of max torque, so I have used everything under the sun. I should also say, that I have only broken (cracked) a handful of impact sockets. All of the ones I broke were 1/2" but I was using an adapter to go from a 3/4" or 1" gun because I needed more torque. I have broken craftsman, husky and harbor freight ones. They all seem to break at the same rate.
By the way, for guns, I have found that central pneumatic under rates their tools and husky over rates them. I had a bolt that I was trying to get off and the husky with 250ft/lbs couldn't get it off, but the central pneumatic (harbor freight) rated at 200 ft/lbs did.

So what it comes down to is how often you plan on using your tools. I would not hesitate at buying a harbor freight central punematic gun and socket set if you are a homeowner for casual use. If you work on your car a lot, I would go craftsman or husky/cobalt for the warranty and ease of replacement. But whatever you get, understand your options.

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oh, and for the question at hand, I would recommend a craftsman compressor. I currently have a 20 gallon elec craftsman from long ago ($150 IIRC), Dewalt Elec 15 gallon 200 psi emglo at about $300, and a 8 gallon gas Ingersoll Rand that is about $800. They all have their own uses, but I outgrew the craftsman a long time ago. Now it just sits in my shed, or is my loaner to neighbors.
 

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Originally posted by: Evadman
Originally posted by: Eli
Not that I'm defending Harbor Freight, they generally sell garbage, but they do sell some name brand stuff at a fair price.

harbor freight sells crap at a good price. As long as you know exactly what you are getting, then it can be a good decision to purchase products there. For example, if you buy a craftsman dewalt, or whatever compressor, you will need some tools. One of the big ones will be an impact gun and set of sockets.
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lol

My brother worked at HFT for 2 years. I have more HFT tools than I know what to do with. ;)

Not all of them are garbage, sometimes you get lucky. It's quality that's really hit and miss.
 

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Originally posted by: Cattlegod
get one that is oil lubricated, otherwise your ears will bleed from the noise.
Oil lubed ones will also last longer. But they cost more (generally) and you have to, well, lube them. There is more upkeep. You should change the oil once a year, or every 50-100 operating hours generally. Check the owners manual of whatever you get.