AIDS group uses your federal tax dollars to hire gay porn star to strip for guests

glenn1

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Wonder if he's a Republican?

A gay-porn movie actor stripped and engaged in sexual contact with guests during a "safer sex" event sponsored by a local AIDS agency, which paid for his appearance with federal money, two former agency employees said Monday.

The St. Louis Health Department last week acknowledged that it was investigating the spending of a federal grant by Blacks Assisting Blacks Against AIDS, known as BABAA. A lawyer for the group said it paid $500 to Edgar Gaines to speak to a gathering that was held July 20 in the downtown residence of Erise Williams Jr., its executive director.

Bruce Hopson, the lawyer, called the allegations false, adding that the actor "did not strip for anybody, and nobody touched him."
BABAA paid Gaines, of Memphis, from a $96,000 grant that it received from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to fight syphilis. Dr. Hugh Stallworth, city health director, said his department is investigating the matter on behalf of the federal agency.
He called the allegations "quite serious" but said he could not confirm or discuss them. Stallworth said the department could freeze the grant and require BABAA to reimburse inappropriate spending. Kevin Coleman, BABAA's former youth center director, said he complained to Williams, the executive director, on the night of Gaines' presentation.

Gaines' name in gay-porn movies is Bobby Blake.

Coleman, 30, said he was "let go" on Oct. 4, after he complained of sexual harassment to the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. Coleman said he then filed detailed descriptions of what he saw to the city's Civil Rights Enforcement Agency and to the Health Department. On Monday, he provided copies of his and other letters of complaint to the Post-Dispatch.

"Bobby (Gaines) comes out in a towel and boots, and I said, 'Erise, you know you can't do this,'" Coleman said. "He says, 'Kevin, how many times do I have to tell you that this is how we reach the young people?'

"Time goes by, and Bobby is buck naked," Coleman said. "It was like we were at a strip show except there was no money being passed. Guys would run up and touch him. Erise was cheering them on."

Williams could not be reached for comment Monday. Last week, he referred all questions to Hopson. Another former employee, who said he was fired Friday, backed up Coleman's version. He said he watched a young man sitting next to him fondle Gaines, who was not wearing a condom. The former employee, who is 29, said he didn't want his name used in print but allowed the newspaper to mention his name to BABAA. Hopson said the agency fired a man by that name last week but said he couldn't discuss why.

Coleman and the other former employee said about two dozen young men attended the "safer sex" gathering at Williams' loft on Washington Avenue downtown. They said most of them were members of BABAA's Harambee Empowerment Center for Youth, which serves boys as young as 13. The two also alleged that Williams showed pornographic movies at another event on April 27 at his former home in the Central West End. Hopson said those accusations were false as well.


 

Electric Amish

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At least they could have gotten hetero porn stars....
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ElFenix

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so they can't fund a church-run soup kitchen but a stripper they can?
 

NikPreviousAcct

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I'm a Republican and I neither support AIDS groups, nor vote for money giving to AIDS groups, nor appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support.

:frown:

nik
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I'm a Republican and I neither support AIDS groups, nor vote for money giving to AIDS groups, nor appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support.

:frown:

nik

maybe its time for you to go hunt down the heathen homosexuals.
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It doesnt matter that they are gay, it matters that they used the money improperly.
 

datalink7

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I'm a Republican and I neither support AIDS groups, nor vote for money giving to AIDS groups, nor appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support.

:frown:

nik

I can see you making an argument for "no appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support." But why don't you support AIDS groups? There are a lot of heterosexual people with AIDS.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I'm a Republican and I neither support AIDS groups, nor vote for money giving to AIDS groups, nor appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support.

:frown:

nik

maybe its time for you to go hunt down the heathen homosexuals.
rolleye.gif
It doesnt matter that they are gay, it matters that they used the money improperly.

Hmm... religious references. And without me even saying anything about it being because of my religion.
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And, for your [very little], it has nothing to do with my religious preferences that I don't approve of gays.

nik
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I'm a Republican and I neither support AIDS groups, nor vote for money giving to AIDS groups, nor appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support.

:frown:

nik

I can see you making an argument for "no appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support." But why don't you support AIDS groups? There are a lot of heterosexual people with AIDS.

I believe the correct term is.... touché... ;)

amish
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: datalink7
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I'm a Republican and I neither support AIDS groups, nor vote for money giving to AIDS groups, nor appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support.

:frown:

nik

I can see you making an argument for "no appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support." But why don't you support AIDS groups? There are a lot of heterosexual people with AIDS.

The research for the cure, I'll support. What do AIDS groups do?

nik
 

iamwiz82

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Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I'm a Republican and I neither support AIDS groups, nor vote for money giving to AIDS groups, nor appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support.

:frown:

nik

maybe its time for you to go hunt down the heathen homosexuals.
rolleye.gif
It doesnt matter that they are gay, it matters that they used the money improperly.

Hmm... religious references. And without me even saying anything about it being because of my religion.
rolleye.gif
And, for your [very little], it has nothing to do with my religious preferences that I don't approve of gays.

nik


religious? ohhh... you must mean heathen. If you looked up the dictionary, you would see that one definition is "One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened." I was aiming for uncivilized.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ffmcobalt
I'm a Republican and I neither support AIDS groups, nor vote for money giving to AIDS groups, nor appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support.

:frown:

nik

maybe its time for you to go hunt down the heathen homosexuals.
rolleye.gif
It doesnt matter that they are gay, it matters that they used the money improperly.

Hmm... religious references. And without me even saying anything about it being because of my religion.
rolleye.gif
And, for your [very little], it has nothing to do with my religious preferences that I don't approve of gays.

nik


religious? ohhh... you must mean heathen. If you looked up the dictionary, you would see that one definition is "One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened." I was aiming for uncivilized.

Hmm. Well, people bring up religion a lot and bash it because of my stand point, and I guess I was just getting defensive before the fight started. I stand corrected. :)

nik
 

Electric Amish

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Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Federal dollars get spent on much worse things. The feds spend $500 approximately every 7 milliseconds.

Yeah, like paying politicians....

amish
 

Gen Stonewall

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I can see you making an argument for "no appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support." But why don't you support AIDS groups? There are a lot of heterosexual people with AIDS.

I wouldn't support any group that uses tax money to treat people with AIDS, which nearly always is transmitted through drug use or illicit sex.
 

damiano

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Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: mithrandir2001
Federal dollars get spent on much worse things. The feds spend $500 approximately every 7 milliseconds.

Yeah, like paying politicians....

amish


amen
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Stonewall
I can see you making an argument for "no appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support." But why don't you support AIDS groups? There are a lot of heterosexual people with AIDS.

I wouldn't support any group that uses tax money to treat people with AIDS, which nearly always is transmitted through drug use or illicit sex.
Stonewall, we've been through this already and you know that's not true. Give it a f*cking rest already.
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A bit of data. There's plenty more. Pull your head out of your ass and go read it.
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Stonewall
I can see you making an argument for "no appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support." But why don't you support AIDS groups? There are a lot of heterosexual people with AIDS.

I wouldn't support any group that uses tax money to treat people with AIDS, which nearly always is transmitted through drug use or illicit sex.
Stonewall, we've been through this already and you know that's not true. Give it a f*cking rest already.
rolleye.gif


A bit of data. There's plenty more. Pull your head out of your ass and go read it.


...which nearly always is transmitted through drug use or illicit sex...

illicit

For someone who believes that sex belongs within the confines of marriage, or at least within a monogamous heterosexual relationship, the kind of sex that transmits HIV/AIDS IS considered illicit.

The sex + drugs category covers the vast majority of the cases according to your charts, so I'd say his statement isn't that far off.

The only thing to debate is the definition of illicit sex.

Viper GTS
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Fausto1
Originally posted by: Stonewall
I can see you making an argument for "no appreciate them using my stolen money to hire a dancer for a lifestyle that I do not support." But why don't you support AIDS groups? There are a lot of heterosexual people with AIDS.

I wouldn't support any group that uses tax money to treat people with AIDS, which nearly always is transmitted through drug use or illicit sex.
Stonewall, we've been through this already and you know that's not true. Give it a f*cking rest already.
rolleye.gif


A bit of data. There's plenty more. Pull your head out of your ass and go read it.


...which nearly always is transmitted through drug use or illicit sex...

illicit

For someone who believes that sex belongs within the confines of marriage, or at least within a monogamous heterosexual relationship, the kind of sex that transmits HIV/AIDS IS considered illicit.

The sex + drugs category covers the vast majority of the cases according to your charts, so I'd say his statement isn't that far off.

The only thing to debate is the definition of illicit sex.

Viper GTS

Okay, well let's throw the drug thing out the window first. CDC data indicates and estimated 11,600 people who contracted HIV via drug use as of 2000. This out of a grand total of 340,000 estimated to be infected. So that's a whopping 3%. Yee. Ha.

The "illicit" argument is crap as well. It's not like there's some kind of magical shield that protects married people when they knock boots. If one of the partners decides to indulge in a hooker one night, contracts HIV, and has sex with his/her spouse later....boom. Married person with AIDS. Stonewall is trying to paint some kind of stupid rosy morality-themed picture where evil fornicators are punished by THE LORD for their wicked ways via AIDS. Total caca. Virii do not discriminate, sorry.