Ahole judge gives a guy 6 months for yawning

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Circuit Judge Daniel Rozak thought the yawn was criminal and sentenced Williams to six months in jail, the maximum penalty for contempt of court without a jury trial. Rozak's order said that Williams "raised his hands while at the same time making a loud yawning sound," causing a disrespectful interruption in court.

Now, I did yawn while reading this.

Sounds completely insane to me. A guy like this should not be issuing sentences to anybody for anything. I don't care how offensive the "yawn" was, that's crazy.

 

[TruePaige]

That should really push the limit as to what is okay and what is Judicial Misconduct.

 

[Stuxnet]

I'm really getting tired of these judges.

 

[her209]

Disorderly conduct.

 

[Drift3r]

The article also does a bad job of describing the nature of the "yawn" and the context in which that yawn happened. Was it a quite yawn or a very loud and rude yawn exhibited by someone who just doesn't give a fuck who he annoys? Courtrooms aren't class rooms. Losing control of a court room can have very deadly consequences.

 

[babylon5]

These judges got egos bigger than pop stars

 

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Originally posted by: Drift3r
The article also does a bad job of describing the nature of the "yawn" and the context in which that yawn happened. Was it a quite yawn or a very loud and rude yawn exhibited by someone who just doesn't give a fuck who he annoys? Courtrooms aren't class rooms. Losing control of a court room can have very deadly consequences.

Does it matter? It sounds like the guy probably made a theatric over the top yawn. If he did should he really get 6 months? If I am in the middle of court and jump up and scream "I love to touch myself at night" surely that's worse than a yawn and should that really get 6 months? I don't think so.

 

[babylon5]

Originally posted by: Drift3r
The article also does a bad job of describing the nature of the "yawn" and the context in which that yawn happened. Was it a quite yawn or a very loud and rude yawn exhibited by someone who just doesn't give a fuck who he annoys? Courtrooms aren't class rooms. Losing control of a court room can have very deadly consequences.

Yawn is deadly? Wow.

 

[Patranus]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
It sounds like the guy probably made a theatric over the top yawn. If he did should he really get 6 months?

Yes, he should. I suspect that he was also warned in some way or another at some other point.

 

[TheSkinsFan]

What an incredible waste of $$, not to mention the injustice of it all.

ridiculous.

 

[yllus]

I caught this story over on The Week. He apparently made a very theatric yawn to make a "point", but six months in jail is idiotic. Apparently a third of all the contempt charges for that 30-judge circuit are as a result of Judge Rozak. I hope the guy sues him for this.

 

[monovillage]

The scary part is this (from the article)

"Circuit Judge Daniel Rozak thought the yawn was criminal and sentenced Williams to six months in jail, the maximum penalty for contempt of court without a jury trial. Rozak's order said that Williams "raised his hands while at the same time making a loud yawning sound," causing a disrespectful interruption in court."

6 months in jail without a jury trial ! I guess due process includes a judge that got his panties in a bunch because of what he considered lack of respect.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: babylon5

Originally posted by: Drift3r
The article also does a bad job of describing the nature of the "yawn" and the context in which that yawn happened. Was it a quite yawn or a very loud and rude yawn exhibited by someone who just doesn't give a fuck who he annoys? Courtrooms aren't class rooms. Losing control of a court room can have very deadly consequences.

Yawn is deadly? Wow.

Seletcive qouting and begging the question FTL.

Losing control of a court room and allowing any idiot to run a muck can be deadly. There are many examples of this happening but you can do a google search if you really care.

This judge obviously doesn't put up with bullshit from anyone in his court room. Also again the article does a horrible job at describing the nature of the "yawn" the context in which it happened. Lack of details is sometimes nice way to create bias.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Drift3r
The article also does a bad job of describing the nature of the "yawn" and the context in which that yawn happened. Was it a quite yawn or a very loud and rude yawn exhibited by someone who just doesn't give a fuck who he annoys? Courtrooms aren't class rooms. Losing control of a court room can have very deadly consequences.

Does it matter? It sounds like the guy probably made a theatric over the top yawn. If he did should he really get 6 months? If I am in the middle of court and jump up and scream "I love to touch myself at night" surely that's worse than a yawn and should that really get 6 months? I don't think so.

I rather not allow courts to be turned into the neutered versions of class rooms where there is no respect period for the institution. If this guy was too stupid to understand the serious nature of being in a court room then fuck him. I could care less for the consequences stupid people end up receiving via their own actions in life.

 

[polarmystery]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: babylon5

Originally posted by: Drift3r
The article also does a bad job of describing the nature of the "yawn" and the context in which that yawn happened. Was it a quite yawn or a very loud and rude yawn exhibited by someone who just doesn't give a fuck who he annoys? Courtrooms aren't class rooms. Losing control of a court room can have very deadly consequences.

Yawn is deadly? Wow.

Seletcive qouting and begging the question FTL.

Losing control of a court room and allowing any idiot to run a muck can be deadly. There are many examples of this happening but you can do a google search if you really care.

This judge obviously doesn't put up with bullshit from anyone in his court room. Also again the article does a horrible job at describing the nature of the "yawn" the context in which it happened. Lack of details is sometimes nice way to create bias.

Please don't ever become a judge...ever.

 

[EagleKeeper]

The article may not providing the full context. Why?

A couple of questions that are not addressed.
1) Why was the person at court?
2) Was there any previous interaction between the judge and the person
3) Details on what the actual disturbance was. Noisy - heavy movement, etc

 

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Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: Skoorb

Originally posted by: Drift3r
The article also does a bad job of describing the nature of the "yawn" and the context in which that yawn happened. Was it a quite yawn or a very loud and rude yawn exhibited by someone who just doesn't give a fuck who he annoys? Courtrooms aren't class rooms. Losing control of a court room can have very deadly consequences.

Does it matter? It sounds like the guy probably made a theatric over the top yawn. If he did should he really get 6 months? If I am in the middle of court and jump up and scream "I love to touch myself at night" surely that's worse than a yawn and should that really get 6 months? I don't think so.

I rather not allow courts to be turned into the neutered versions of class rooms where there is no respect period for the institution. If this guy was too stupid to understand the serious nature of being in a court room then fuck him. I could care less for the consequences stupid people end up receiving via their own actions in life.

Who said anything about it being a classroom? I'm sure a couple of nights in jail would have taught a lesson, plus you realize courtrooms have security. Have the guy leave. What would have been an excessive sentence by your reckoning?

 

[DaveSimmons]

Was this the first offense, or had the disrespectful punk been disruptive previously during the trial?

Six months is very excessive if there was no prior misbehavior and no prior warnings.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The article may not providing the full context. Why?

A couple of questions that are not addressed.
1) Why was the person at court?
2) Was there any previous interaction between the judge and the person
3) Details on what the actual disturbance was. Noisy - heavy movement, etc

1) did you read the link? "Williams, 33, attended his cousin's July hearing at Will County Courthouse in Joliet"

2) it does not matter.

3) again so what? throw his ass out. 6 months in jail is far overblown.

 

[Mursilis]

From the article:

But Judge Rozak runs a tight ship. He has charged people who cuss in reaction to a sentencing and even jailed spectators whose cell phones interrupt proceedings. In fact, the Chicago Tribune found that Rozak has sentenced more spectators to jail for infractions involving cell phones than any other judge in Will County in the last decade.

Of the 30 judges in the 12th Judicial Circuit, Judge Rozak has brought more than a third of all the contempt charges in the last 10 years.

Sounds like the guy has gotten a little carried away by his own power. Lord Acton was right yet again.

 

[imported_Lothar]

Originally posted by: TheSkinsFan
What an incredible waste of $$, not to mention the injustice of it all.

ridiculous.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: monovillage
The scary part is this (from the article)

"Circuit Judge Daniel Rozak thought the yawn was criminal and sentenced Williams to six months in jail, the maximum penalty for contempt of court without a jury trial. Rozak's order said that Williams "raised his hands while at the same time making a loud yawning sound," causing a disrespectful interruption in court."

6 months in jail without a jury trial ! I guess due process includes a judge that got his panties in a bunch because of what he considered lack of respect.

You don`t understand do you......
Due process has nothing to do with what this judge did....
Technically the guy had his due process. He interrupted a court proceed8ing and was punished....that was his due process!!

 

[Fingolfin269]

Stalworth got 24 days for dui/marijuana/killing someone. 6 months for someone acting like a douche?

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy
The article may not providing the full context. Why?

A couple of questions that are not addressed.
1) Why was the person at court?
2) Was there any previous interaction between the judge and the person
3) Details on what the actual disturbance was. Noisy - heavy movement, etc

1) did you read the link? "Williams, 33, attended his cousin's July hearing at Will County Courthouse in Joliet"

2) it does not matter.

3) again so what? throw his ass out. 6 months in jail is far overblown.

Maybe in your reality...it doesn`t matter.
In the judges reality it did matter...obtw---the judges reality is what mattered!!

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

shouldn't be a problem, our jails aren't over crowded, he probably will skate through those 6 months unscathed emotionally and physically, all the while, because this judge thought a really useless and overblown lesson should be learned, the taxpayers get to pay for his room and board!
Good job judge judy!