Ahmadinejad interview

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: kylebisme
Now you've still left a couple of points unaddressed, but I'm guessing you don't have the wherewithal to comprehend that.

You're right, i don't really have the time to explain the simplest thing to the imbecils who don't get it the first time.

I DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER what Admenafuck says, he can't say SHIT without the agreement of those who control him, if he EVER did, he'd be so fucking dead that death would look alive in comparison.

Is that clear enough for your dumb arse?

And links to where he said what he said have been provided, you'll have to excuse me for not reposting them.

I agree. Wouldn't it be great if we hadn't been directly involved in creating that actual system that put such people in place. You forget that it was the West, specifically the UK and the US that created the fucked up system of gov in Iran. They had a democratically elected prime minister, but we decided a theocracy would be better at manipulating for oil. We made the whole mess and when it literally blew up in our face, now all we can do is complain about them.

THANK YOU from the bottom of my soul... so many fucking retards in the USAAAA just ARE NOT WILLING to see that we DESTROYED - OBLITERATED democracy in Iran for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

here is the easiest way for Cowards in USA to find the truth I speak
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl...&q=operation+ajax+iran

you cowards who refuse to look for the truth need to cleanse the gene pool

 

[Freshgeardude]

Good job avoiding my post kylebisme

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Point is we fucked over every sensible freedom loving person merely to feed our greed allowing the country to fall into its current radical oppressive state.

An indisputably valid point, and one I am disappointed to see getting as little consideration as it does.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
Good job avoiding my post kylebisme

My bad, I just overlooked it while responding to others. Anyway, see here for the original Farsi quote along with a literal translation and discussion of the context, notably:

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
...

He said elections should be held among "Jews, Christians and Muslims so the population of Palestine can select their government and destiny for themselves in a democratic manner."

Now, while I know that to many Zionists the idea of having Israel's current ethnocratic government replaced with a democratic one is considered just as horrific as Israel being nuked off the map, that is no excuse to accuse Ahmadinejad of calling for the latter when on the contrary he is quite clearly suggesting the former.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: SirStev0
Point is we fucked over every sensible freedom loving person merely to feed our greed allowing the country to fall into its current radical oppressive state.

An indisputably valid point, and one I am disappointed to see getting as little consideration as it does.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
Good job avoiding my post kylebisme

My bad, I just overlooked it while responding to others. Anyway, see here for the original Farsi quote along with a literal translation and discussion of the context, notably:

The full quote translated directly to English:

"The Imam said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
...

He said elections should be held among "Jews, Christians and Muslims so the population of Palestine can select their government and destiny for themselves in a democratic manner."

Now, while I know that to many Zionists the idea of having Israel's current ethnocratic government replaced with a democratic one is considered just as horrific as Israel being nuked off the map, that is no excuse to accuse Ahmadinejad of calling for the latter when on the contrary he is quite clearly suggesting the former.

im sorry. I was under the impression that Israel is a democracy, actually wait it is! its the only one in the middle east.

and that is bull shit. I heard him say three words. "death to israel" is three, not " this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"

secondly, why do arabs, even imaduchejad want jerusalem. when the arabs controlled it, they trashed up the western wall.


secondly, another part in that video that I posted showed how imaduchejad never answered the guy from the UN because he was jewish. he even stated that once the iranian leader knew he was jewish he would not talk to him anymore. this just proves my point further. the small percentage of jews who dont want Israel as a country believe that we need to wait for the mesiah, while imaduchejad just wants it out for whatever reason. The only reason he talked to them was for the publicity.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
im sorry. I was under the impression that Israel is a democracy, actually wait it is!

No, Israel is an ethnocracy, with a disinfrancised minority over a million Arabs citizens and millions more Arabs living in apartheid conditions under Israeli rule in the occupied territories.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
its the only one in the middle east.

Lebanon is a democratic republic, as is Turkey. The Palestinian Authority was also democratic government before the US and Israel talked Fatah into attempting to overthrow Hamas, and things went south from there. Also, Iraq is a developing democracy at this point. Unlike Israel, none of those states have laws which favor one portion of their citizenry over another, and none rule over and unrepresented population either.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
and that is bull shit. I heard him say three words. "death to israel" is three, not " this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"

The "wipe Israel off the face of the earth" claim is bullshit, the " this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time" is a literal translation of the statement the bullshit was derived from. And yes, he says "death to Israel", but that is not the same as the "death to Israelis" you seem to want to interpret it as, but rather a call for the end of the current regime known as Israel.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
secondly, why do arabs, even imaduchejad want jerusalem.

Hire a tutor if you aren't capable of doing the research yourself, one who isn't a rabid Zionist.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
when the arabs controlled it, they trashed up the western wall.

And stop spewing bullshit propaganda.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
secondly, another part in that video that I posted showed how imaduchejad never answered the guy from the UN because he was jewish. he even stated that once the iranian leader knew he was jewish he would not talk to him anymore.

Rather, because the guy was obviously a rabid Zionist.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
this just proves my point further. the small percentage of jews who dont want Israel as a country believe that we need to wait for the mesiah...

This just proves how ignorant you are, here are some Jews with secular arguments against Ziionism for example sake.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
...while imaduchejad just wants it out for whatever reason. The only reason he talked to them was for the publicity.

It's no wonder you can't comprehend his stated position when you can't even come close to spelling his name, and you certainly aren't in any position to claim to know his motives.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
im sorry. I was under the impression that Israel is a democracy, actually wait it is!

No, Israel is an ethnocracy, with a disinfrancised minority over a million Arabs citizens and millions more Arabs living in apartheid conditions under Israeli rule in the occupied territories.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
its the only one in the middle east.

Lebanon is a democratic republic, as is Turkey. The Palestinian Authority was also democratic government before the US and Israel talked Fatah into attempting to overthrow Hamas, and things went south from there. Also, Iraq is a developing democracy at this point. Unlike Israel, none of those states have laws which favor one portion of their citizenry over another, and none rule over and unrepresented population either.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
and that is bull shit. I heard him say three words. "death to israel" is three, not " this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time"

The "wipe Israel off the face of the earth" claim is bullshit, the " this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time" is a literal translation of the statement the bullshit was derived from. And yes, he says "death to Israel", but that is not the same as the "death to Israelis" you seem to want to interpret it as, but rather a call for the end of the current regime known as Israel.
I really love it how you make it sound like he isnt a bad guy here and anything israel does is terrible. this just shows how biased you are. any rational person would think that when a leader of a country called "death" to anything, its bad. last time I remember any leader of a country calling the death of someone/ something, its was to actually kill them. (hitler)

your just trying to find any loophole out there. stop trying to make them.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
secondly, why do arabs, even imaduchejad want jerusalem.

Hire a tutor if you aren't capable of doing the research yourself, one who isn't a rabid Zionist.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
when the arabs controlled it, they trashed up the western wall.

And stop spewing bullshit propaganda.

its not bullshit, i have talked with actual soldiers who were in the war. you comments and complete disagreement with the truth is bullshit.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
secondly, another part in that video that I posted showed how imaduchejad never answered the guy from the UN because he was jewish. he even stated that once the iranian leader knew he was jewish he would not talk to him anymore.

Rather, because the guy was obviously a rabid Zionist.
um no, go actually watch it. he didnt ask specifically about israel. he asked about the nuclear program. he is part of the UN and happens to be jewish.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
this just proves my point further. the small percentage of jews who dont want Israel as a country believe that we need to wait for the mesiah...

This just proves how ignorant you are, here are some Jews with secular arguments against Ziionism for example sake.

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
...while imaduchejad just wants it out for whatever reason. The only reason he talked to them was for the publicity.

It's no wonder you can't comprehend his stated position when you can't even come close to spelling his name, and you certainly aren't in any position to claim to know his motives.

i dont need to spend my time looking to spell his name. the way I spell it is what I feel about him. if that is your arguement then you are retarded.

i know his motives perfectly fine.

bolds

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
i dont need to spend my time looking to spell his name. the way I spell it is what I feel about him.

The whole of your arguments are based on feelings and beliefs, refusing to look at facts and evidence which contract them. As your are clearly insistent on wallowing in such willful ignorance, I won't bother responding to you again.

For those who might be interested in seeing who is really in denial of the horrors the Nazis committed against Jews, you can find some videos exemplifying how Zionist leaders hoard reparations while leaving survivors suffer in poverty here.

 

[Ihey8neocons]

Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
http://www.newsweek.com/id/216040

I have to say, he does make some very good points. A lot of our press drowns out his legitimate concerns with hyperbole and mis-information. Worth a read, no matter what your political persuasion is.

Agreed, the neocons twist his words to make him look bad, calling him Hitler and everything.

We have nuclear weapons why can't Iran. What's fair is fair.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
i dont need to spend my time looking to spell his name. the way I spell it is what I feel about him.

The whole of your arguments are based on feelings and beliefs, refusing to look at facts and evidence which contract them. As your are clearly insistent on wallowing in such willful ignorance, I won't bother responding to you again.

For those who might be interested in seeing who is really in denial of the horrors the Nazis committed against Jews, you can find some videos exemplifying how Zionist leaders hoard reparations while leaving survivors suffer in poverty here.

my whole arguement is not based on feelings and beliefs. you are just trying to make it sound like that and try to not face the facts.

I have true facts. I also have first hand stories. all of your arguements are based on picking and choosing the corners of the world of news to make you position seem stronger

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
My whole argument is based on feelings and beliefs. I am just trying to make it sound otherwise to avoid facing the facts.

I have few facts. I also have many stories. All of my augments are based on picking and choosing from them in the hopes of making my position seem stronger.

Fixed.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Atreus21

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: spidey07

Did or did not Germany commit genocide against the jews? Answer that question first. Or is that some kind of media hyped conspiracy?

Just for fun, did ot did not the US commit genocide against Native Americans? "Answer that question first. Or is that some kind of media hyped conspiracy?"

Did Americans attempt to wipe out an entire ethnic group deliberately?

Yes. For more information head to your local library and READ.

The fine point people might make is that native americans were in the way, but people went out and deliberately sought out Jews. That would be correct in that there was no official policy of genocide regarding American Indians (or whatever the PC term is these days), however there was no attempt to keep them from being killed when they resisted our westward movement and takeover of their lands. The Nazis and America had a policy of killing their respective "enemies". The difference is that my Cherokee ancestors and those who made them walk the Trail of Tears are dead. Not all who were victims of Germany are. This is still a timely issue. The slaughter of native Americans isn't.

The method of extermination was simply a product of the times. It doesn't lessen the act simply because of the method.

Also I completely disagree with your closing statement. By the very fact that it is being discussed, it is timely. What is the scale of 'timely-ness' for the purpose of considering the evil of genocide, whichever way it happens?

 

[Freshgeardude]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: Freshgeardude
My whole argument is based on feelings and beliefs. I am just trying to make it sound otherwise to avoid facing the facts.

I have few facts. I also have many stories. All of my augments are based on picking and choosing from them in the hopes of making my position seem stronger.

Fixed.

nice. you fixed it to make it sound like your position.

you have run out of arguments and i can keep on going. your just another loser