AHHHA I am the only one...

Literati

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WARNING : BEER + RANT = BEER DRIVEN RANT

BEER WITH ME, HAR HAR... anyways...

Trapped in my ways I stay a slave to bad habits.

Tonight was a relaxing night, I worked all day, all be it easy work, and only easy through prior hard work which laid the foundation to me being able to actually not have to work as hard as the average joe, but I still put in time.

So as I sit here drinking beer wasting pretty much a night, I think of the words Ad Hominem which basically mean Appealing to a person's physical and emotional urges, rather than her or his intellect... in the literal Latin sense, and not in the arguementative.

Ok. Then I get to thinking of Babylon, and the 60 system brought forth by them, and all the ancient foundations of civilization, the times of discovery and philosophy, Horace, Cicero, Rome, etc. and I think "Holy crap, those men stood for something."

And me, sh!t I guess I'm a step above average because I even consider or take account and even find interest in things of this nature but I still feel I'm rotting away unless I'm intellectually stimulating myself, to the point of real discovery or production and self actualization, which is hard to do, through my lack of discipline, my environment (all of these which are no real excuse) and bad yet predefined and automated habits.

Some times I think I' half crazy, and half genius, and other times I think the world's either stupid, or I'm to stupid to see the world, but as of right now, I'll rot myself away and intellectually persue the stimulation the new Family Guy episodes provide me with, as opposed to doing something that I'll actually feel good about, like reading the Book of Five Rings, reading The Discourses, improving my mathematics or working towards being a better person.

I can tell you one thing though, I'll either die extremely rich having explored the world, or I'll die extremely poor after having explored the world.

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Literati

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Originally posted by: Mith
Yeah... Definitely drunk.

I'm definately a few beers deep, but knot enoughjf twoi tyiep liek thids@!#!

Honestly, these are the things that that run through my mind at time, apparently something you've never had the pleasure nor the pain of experiencing...

A gift and a curse I guess, but that fact remains, the beers only influenced me enough to actually hit the post button, not to fill the post with alcohol influenced thoughts.
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: Literati
Ok. Then I get to thinking of Babylon, and the 60 system brought forth by them, and all the ancient foundations of civilization, the times of discovery and philosophy, Horace, Cicero, Rome, etc. and I think "Holy crap, those men stood for something."

And me, sh!t I guess I'm a step above average because I even consider or take account and even find interest in things of this nature but I still feel I'm rotting away unless I'm intellectually stimulating myself, to the point of real discovery or production and self actualization, which is hard to do, through my lack of discipline, my environment (all of these which are no real excuse) and bad yet predefined and automated habits.

yeah...more people think of those things than you realize. I'm that way to. IMHO, until one actually contributes to society, though, you are NO better off than the guy who just thinks of sex all day long.
 

Wahsapa

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you have to remember tho... entertainment back then SUCKED ASS. like major ass. i mean... if there was no tv, no internet... who know what you would do. people had a lot more free time on there hands, did a lot more things, got a lot more accomplished.


also society has greatly changed in the past hundred years and so has the life of the average man. the average man however(physically) has changed very little. so you can see how the scale kind of tips for men to be far greater then the great men of yester-year.

*passes out*
 

SnipeMasterJ13

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Originally posted by: jagec
Originally posted by: Literati
Ok. Then I get to thinking of Babylon, and the 60 system brought forth by them, and all the ancient foundations of civilization, the times of discovery and philosophy, Horace, Cicero, Rome, etc. and I think "Holy crap, those men stood for something."

And me, sh!t I guess I'm a step above average because I even consider or take account and even find interest in things of this nature but I still feel I'm rotting away unless I'm intellectually stimulating myself, to the point of real discovery or production and self actualization, which is hard to do, through my lack of discipline, my environment (all of these which are no real excuse) and bad yet predefined and automated habits.

yeah...more people think of those things than you realize. I'm that way to. IMHO, until one actually contributes to society, though, you are NO better off than the guy who just thinks of sex all day long.

LIES! I think about sex all day long AND I'm a great man. :laugh:

 

Literati

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Originally posted by: jagec
yeah...more people think of those things than you realize. I'm that way to. IMHO, until one actually contributes to society, though, you are NO better off than the guy who just thinks of sex all day long.

I hear you, I'm glad I'm not the only one out there who maintains this type of mentality.

Originally posted by: Wahsapa
you have to remember tho... entertainment back then SUCKED ASS. like major ass. i mean... if there was no tv, no internet... who know what you would do. people had a lot more free time on there hands, did a lot more things, got a lot more accomplished.

This put a smile on my face. You're right, they did not have Family Guy, or Paris Hilton. :p

But it's still no excuse for the population to stop intellectual and philosophical development. Just because we can build robots to pick sh!t up for us doesn't mean we should cut off our arms you know?

Originally posted by: Wahsapa
also society has greatly changed in the past hundred years and so has the life of the average man. the average man however(physically) has changed very little. so you can see how the scale kind of tips for men to be far greater then the great men of yester-year.

Yea I hear you too. It seems like it's acceptable to mentally depreceate our intellectual selfs on the strength of our current level of development. We just lack the insight and thought that drove humanity to where it is.

Why try to figure something out and risk a headache when we can type it into a computer and get the answer right? Everyone will tell you computers will never replace humans, but they'll also turn around and replace humans with computers. Either to save them a dollar or to save them the work.

I don't know, it just seems there's been a lot lost through development. Passion for discovery amongst the masses is dead now, and everyday around my neighborhood, in my life, is the same fvckin day.

It seems as if our advancements went from technological tools, to mental handicaps.

I suppose I'll just sit and be idle now, watch TV instead of start a book, this way it'll be easier on me to watch someone else live as opposed to actually having to do it myself.
 

Wahsapa

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for a very long time techonolgical advancements were about survival. not any more. in certain parts of the world man kind has come to a point where we dont need to hunt. we dont need to fear nature, we dont need a lot of things that used to effect our behavior. things that were genetically bred into us. we are truely in a new age of man but with the old age body and mind. except only a handful of men realize this because well, we live very short lives in the grand scheme of things. this both helps and hurts. we are too young to remember the mistakes of the past and to old to let go of our ways when technology exponentially advances the world we live in today.

the thing is... man lives both in a physical and mental world. machines and computers are only in the physical. we cant have a computer think for us. we have to think for computers. there is no reason all physical man-power required jobs cannot be replaced by robots, this fact we are going to have to accept. the only problem is mans nature must change fast or you see the results of a society to comfortable for its own good. the people get fat lazy and stupid. advancment stagnates, higher thinking for survival is no longer required, basic instinct re-births itself.

how americans cry of the horrors of an evil society, that evil must be stopped, as if it could be, as if it ever has been, as if it ever will be...
 

meltdown75

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very interesting thread gentlemen. allow me this - through posting what you already have, just those few posts - you have perhaps opened up the mind of a member who is sitting back and soaking this all in. so we can make the conclusion that although we may not be as 'great' per se as our predecessors (the hard work has already been done enabling us to live out such FREE lives), through the webs, infrastructure and mediums of communication that are available to us, we ARE powerful. we take for granted how much power we have. the new strength of man is in cohesiveness and sheer numbers which are in turn made powerful through the ways we communicate with each other. to ourselves we may seem like ordinary people. to our ancestors, we might be viewed as gods. to those that replace us in the future, we must be viewed as having INCREDIBLE potential. all that's left is to tap into it. part of it will be our doing (the will to be great!) and part of it will be as a result of the environment we create for ourselves.

so i guess what my message to the OP was: this post may just a drop of water in an ocean. but it's your drop, and if you didn't click post, no one else would have and we would never have the chance to banter the night away. it might be small, but it's the essence of greatness. collectively, the common citizens of the world really could get off their asses, but like you said, it's pretty damn comfy isn't it? :beer: