Ahh.. checks and balances

cKGunslinger

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WASHINGTON (AP) -- Advocates of rewriting the USA Patriot Act are claiming momentum after the House, despite a White House veto threat, voted to restrict investigators from using the anti-terrorism law to peek at library records and bookstore sales slips.

Wednesday's 238-187 vote came as lawmakers ramped up efforts to extend the Patriot Act, which was passed quickly in the emotional aftermath of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. When Congress passed the law, it included a sunset provision under which 15 of its provisions are to expire at the end of this year.

Since the Patriot Act passed, liberals and libertarian-oriented conservatives have pressed for changes, citing privacy and civil liberties concerns. The administration has said weakening of the act would draw a veto from President Bush.

"No question, this is a real shot in the arm for those of us who want to make changes to the USA Patriot Act," said Rep. Bernard Sanders, I-Vermont, sponsor of the provision that would curtail the government's ability to investigate the reading habits of terror suspects. He said the vote would help "rein in an administration intent on chipping away at the very civil liberties that define us as a nation."

Despite Bush's threat of a veto, the House decided that in favor of "less" power for terrorism "investigations." :thumbsup:

Also of note, this provision to limit the Patriot Act was sponsored by Bernard Sanders, one of the few Independent representatives we have in Congress.


edit: Hmm.. looks as if part of this might be discussed in this thread.
 

EatSpam

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Guess some of the Republicans in Congress are feeling the approach of 2006 and noticing Bush's and their own dismal approval ratings...
 

Tommunist

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Originally posted by: EatSpam
Guess some of the Republicans in Congress are feeling the approach of 2006 and noticing Bush's and their own dismal approval ratings...

i'd like to think it's their consciences that is causing them to do this but it's hard to tell in politics.
 

Queasy

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Note that the FBI still has the ability to subpoena these records for non-terrorism related investigations. Also worth noting that these provisions have yet to be used in terrorism investigations since the Patriot Act began.
 

Starbuck1975

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This kind of throws out the window all concerns of America becoming an increasingly fascist state.

Once again, the system works.
 

Genx87

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Originally posted by: Queasy
Note that the FBI still has the ability to subpoena these records for non-terrorism related investigations. Also worth noting that these provisions have yet to be used in terrorism investigations since the Patriot Act began.

The FBI could suponea before the patriot act was passed.

Ever heard of the FISA court? Been around for nearly 40 years now.