Originally posted by: NokiaDude
That's just stupid. There are plenty of low budget PCI-E cards out there.
Originally posted by: CP5670
This would have been really useful if it could somehow accomodate a full size AGP card but is pointless without that.
Originally posted by: munky
It would be a lot more interesting if they could make a full size PCI-e card fit into an AGP slot. That way you could buy a high end pci-e card, use it on your agp mobo, and then when you upgrade to pci-e, you can still keep the card. Not to mention that some cards are cheaper on pci-e. But that's just wishful thinking, not likely to ever happen.
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Just buy the right graphics card, or get a new mobo.
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Just buy the right graphics card, or get a new mobo.
Well, in my case, I would be getting a new motherboard anyway, but the problem is that if I want to upgrade to an Athlon 64/NF4 system now or soon (which I do), I have to waste more money buying a PCI-E clone of the same video card I've had since last summer. Alternately, I could get a NF3 board to be able to use my AGP 6800GT, but then I'd likely want to swap motherboards in a few months anyway when the new video cards come out, and I'd want to get a PCI-E one (admittedly no one knows what AGP vs. PCI-E availability is going to be like for the new high-end cards, but I'm not too hopeful that the AGP ones will be too plentiful or inexpensive, comparatively)...
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Just buy the right graphics card, or get a new mobo.
Well, in my case, I would be getting a new motherboard anyway, but the problem is that if I want to upgrade to an Athlon 64/NF4 system now or soon (which I do), I have to waste more money buying a PCI-E clone of the same video card I've had since last summer. Alternately, I could get a NF3 board to be able to use my AGP 6800GT, but then I'd likely want to swap motherboards in a few months anyway when the new video cards come out, and I'd want to get a PCI-E one (admittedly no one knows what AGP vs. PCI-E availability is going to be like for the new high-end cards, but I'm not too hopeful that the AGP ones will be too plentiful or inexpensive, comparatively)...
Sorry, but IT tech is still young. Growing pains and whatnot.
Suck it up, in other words.
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
"Suck it up"?
I'm just saying that I'm one of the people who would be interested in a device/bridge such as this. Is there something wrong with that?
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
"Suck it up"?
I'm just saying that I'm one of the people who would be interested in a device/bridge such as this. Is there something wrong with that?
Not at all. But this design obviously doesn't work - it's only feasible for low profile cards. If they had something that didn't take up a ton of socket space, then we might be talking.
Aside from that, my formula is simple: When new standards are coming, plan to be firmly on one side or the other. I built my new rig this January even thoug I was ready to do it last June. I wasn't going to shell good money for an AGP Mobo/VidCard when they were about to taken out to the barn to die quietly. That's just not good planning.
So I put it off until January, to get on the new standard, and have a socket ready for dual core. Now my mobo is ready for several generations of Video cards to come, as well as new processors. I bought a fairly low end processor and video card because I knew with the next-gen stuff right around the corner, I wouldn't be keeping them longer than a year, so why sink a load of $$ into them? They're just placeholders.
It's just taking a look at the technology landscape and where it's going and planning accordingly.
Come Christmas, this board will probably be loaded up with an A64x2 processor and G70 SLI, and the net cost for me to navigate past the standard change will come to about $350, or the cost of a new mid-high end video card. As collateral damage goes in purchasing PC parts, that's pretty minor, especially for two major advances like PCI Express and Dual Core.
