AGPx8 to PCIe x16 bridge

daveybrat

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What is the point of this??? Looks like a failed idea from the start. There's NO way anyone would buy this to use with a cheap low-profile only AGP video card.

And you can't use a full size gaming card on it, so what crowd is albatron trying to cater to? :confused:
 

CP5670

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This would have been really useful if it could somehow accomodate a full size AGP card but is pointless without that.
 
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Originally posted by: CP5670
This would have been really useful if it could somehow accomodate a full size AGP card but is pointless without that.

I agree...if this would let me use my current AGP 6800GT in a PCI-E board, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.
 

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It would be a lot more interesting if they could make a full size PCI-e card fit into an AGP slot. That way you could buy a high end pci-e card, use it on your agp mobo, and then when you upgrade to pci-e, you can still keep the card. Not to mention that some cards are cheaper on pci-e. But that's just wishful thinking, not likely to ever happen.
 
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Originally posted by: munky
It would be a lot more interesting if they could make a full size PCI-e card fit into an AGP slot. That way you could buy a high end pci-e card, use it on your agp mobo, and then when you upgrade to pci-e, you can still keep the card. Not to mention that some cards are cheaper on pci-e. But that's just wishful thinking, not likely to ever happen.

Meh...I would think that the one they're already making (or have announced anyway) is much more useful, assuming it would actually work. Lots of people have AGP cards, especially high-end AGP cards that are usually quite a bit cheaper than their PCI-E counterparts (at least in the Nvidia world). I have an nForce2 board and 6800GT - if I want to upgrade to an A64/NF4/PCI-E system, I either have to upgrade my card at the same time, or hopefully use something like this. Edit: And it would be pointless to "upgrade" from an AGP 6800GT to a PCI-E 6800GT, especially for the money it would cost.
 
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Hmm....I wonder if there's a way to ghetto-rig this with a full size AGP card....my case is probably large enough...

Edit: And I wonder if this would cause any sort of performance degradation. Needless to say, I'm quite interested. :)
 
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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Just buy the right graphics card, or get a new mobo.

Well, in my case, I would be getting a new motherboard anyway, but the problem is that if I want to upgrade to an Athlon 64/NF4 system now or soon (which I do), I have to waste more money buying a PCI-E clone of the same video card I've had since last summer. Alternately, I could get a NF3 board to be able to use my AGP 6800GT, but then I'd likely want to swap motherboards in a few months anyway when the new video cards come out, and I'd want to get a PCI-E one (admittedly no one knows what AGP vs. PCI-E availability is going to be like for the new high-end cards, but I'm not too hopeful that the AGP ones will be too plentiful or inexpensive, comparatively)...
 

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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Just buy the right graphics card, or get a new mobo.

Well, in my case, I would be getting a new motherboard anyway, but the problem is that if I want to upgrade to an Athlon 64/NF4 system now or soon (which I do), I have to waste more money buying a PCI-E clone of the same video card I've had since last summer. Alternately, I could get a NF3 board to be able to use my AGP 6800GT, but then I'd likely want to swap motherboards in a few months anyway when the new video cards come out, and I'd want to get a PCI-E one (admittedly no one knows what AGP vs. PCI-E availability is going to be like for the new high-end cards, but I'm not too hopeful that the AGP ones will be too plentiful or inexpensive, comparatively)...


Sorry, but IT tech is still young. Growing pains and whatnot.

Suck it up, in other words.
 
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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
Originally posted by: Insomniak
Just buy the right graphics card, or get a new mobo.

Well, in my case, I would be getting a new motherboard anyway, but the problem is that if I want to upgrade to an Athlon 64/NF4 system now or soon (which I do), I have to waste more money buying a PCI-E clone of the same video card I've had since last summer. Alternately, I could get a NF3 board to be able to use my AGP 6800GT, but then I'd likely want to swap motherboards in a few months anyway when the new video cards come out, and I'd want to get a PCI-E one (admittedly no one knows what AGP vs. PCI-E availability is going to be like for the new high-end cards, but I'm not too hopeful that the AGP ones will be too plentiful or inexpensive, comparatively)...


Sorry, but IT tech is still young. Growing pains and whatnot.

Suck it up, in other words.

"Suck it up"? :confused:

I'm just saying that I'm one of the people who would be interested in a device/bridge such as this. Is there something wrong with that?
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
"Suck it up"? :confused:

I'm just saying that I'm one of the people who would be interested in a device/bridge such as this. Is there something wrong with that?


Not at all. But this design obviously doesn't work - it's only feasible for low profile cards. If they had something that didn't take up a ton of socket space, then we might be talking.

Aside from that, my formula is simple: When new standards are coming, plan to be firmly on one side or the other. I built my new rig this January even thoug I was ready to do it last June. I wasn't going to shell good money for an AGP Mobo/VidCard when they were about to taken out to the barn to die quietly. That's just not good planning.

So I put it off until January, to get on the new standard, and have a socket ready for dual core. Now my mobo is ready for several generations of Video cards to come, as well as new processors. I bought a fairly low end processor and video card because I knew with the next-gen stuff right around the corner, I wouldn't be keeping them longer than a year, so why sink a load of $$ into them? They're just placeholders.

It's just taking a look at the technology landscape and where it's going and planning accordingly.

Come Christmas, this board will probably be loaded up with an A64x2 processor and G70 SLI, and the net cost for me to navigate past the standard change will come to about $350, or the cost of a new mid-high end video card. As collateral damage goes in purchasing PC parts, that's pretty minor, especially for two major advances like PCI Express and Dual Core.
 
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Originally posted by: Insomniak
Originally posted by: SynthDude2001
"Suck it up"? :confused:

I'm just saying that I'm one of the people who would be interested in a device/bridge such as this. Is there something wrong with that?


Not at all. But this design obviously doesn't work - it's only feasible for low profile cards. If they had something that didn't take up a ton of socket space, then we might be talking.

Aside from that, my formula is simple: When new standards are coming, plan to be firmly on one side or the other. I built my new rig this January even thoug I was ready to do it last June. I wasn't going to shell good money for an AGP Mobo/VidCard when they were about to taken out to the barn to die quietly. That's just not good planning.

So I put it off until January, to get on the new standard, and have a socket ready for dual core. Now my mobo is ready for several generations of Video cards to come, as well as new processors. I bought a fairly low end processor and video card because I knew with the next-gen stuff right around the corner, I wouldn't be keeping them longer than a year, so why sink a load of $$ into them? They're just placeholders.

It's just taking a look at the technology landscape and where it's going and planning accordingly.

Come Christmas, this board will probably be loaded up with an A64x2 processor and G70 SLI, and the net cost for me to navigate past the standard change will come to about $350, or the cost of a new mid-high end video card. As collateral damage goes in purchasing PC parts, that's pretty minor, especially for two major advances like PCI Express and Dual Core.

You have a point, but I've had my 6800GT for almost a year now, and it will likely be several more months until the G70's and R520's are available (and don't cost $1000), so I think I'll have mostly gotten my money's worth out of it.

I fully intend to do an X2/G70(or R520) system later this year too. :)
 

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man, I was excited for a second. I don't have very much money, yet I splurged and got a 6800GT in November. I want to move to an AMD system, but I don't want to, nor can I spend another $350+ on a video card