AGP slots

[pgebhard]

I have been looking at mobos and I keep seeing two sizes of agp slots. Will my VT GF3 Ti 200 fit into the GA-7VTXE agp slot? And what is with the black thing on the slot. It is some sort of clip, but what does it do? I read on Toms hardware that it keeps the card from getting stuck in the slot...i dont see why you want that...

 

[metalac]

I think that the clip is for the PRO cards.

 

[Rand]

The clip is merely to prevent the card from coming loose from the AGP slot.
The different "sizes" of AGP are the typical AGP1/2/4X and AGP Pro50/110.
The vast majority of cards are AGP 1/2/4X and will fit in either slot, and merely not take any advantage of the remianing pins in the AGP Pro slots which are there simply to provide more power to the grapphics card if necessary.

Your GF3 will fit and work in the GA-7VTXE perfectly fine.

 

[Egrimm]

Yup, the larger AGP-slot is an AGP-pro slot and functions like a normal agp-slot when you use a normal agp-card (the GF3s for example) but allows cards with the extra connectors to get more power.

 

[pgebhard]

Ah, thanks. So is the AGP Pro slot older? And how would the card come loose anyways?

 

[dbal]

I ve been wondering about the same issue regarding my upgrade to the ASUS P4T-E. Great info about the slot and the extra pins guys but what about the 1,5 volt limitation that the new mobos refer to? Is my ATi Radeon VE a 1,5 volt card since I didn't find any info about the subject in their site? I know that if u install a 3,3 volt card in a new AGP slot of 1,5 volt u burn the mobo, that's why I care about it..... Does the fact that it's a relatively new card assure that it is 1,5 volt manufactured? Thanx to all for one more time....U are great!

 

[AA0]

The 1.5 volt thing is only with intel chipsets, as far as I know. The 3.3V cards are older ones, I think the voodoo 5500 is 3.3, or some voodoos are anyways.

 

[Rand]

<< Ah, thanks. So is the AGP Pro slot older? And how would the card come loose anyways? >>



It's a newer specification, primarily used for professional level cards such as the FireGL 3/4, 3DLabs Wildcat 5110 etc etc. It is of absolutely no concern to the average home user/enthusiast/gamer.

The tab/clip was put there initially due to complaints from OEM's that AGP cards would often come loose during shipping to the customer etc.
It's not very beneficial to ahome user unless your going to be travelling with your case to LAN parties etc regularly.




<< but what about the 1,5 volt limitation that the new mobos refer to? Is my ATi Radeon VE a 1,5 volt card since I didn't find any info about the subject in their site? I know that if u install a 3,3 volt card in a new AGP slot of 1,5 volt u burn the mobo, that's why I care about it..... Does the fact that it's a relatively new card assure that it is 1,5 volt manufactured? Thanx to all for one more time....U are great! >>



The Radeon VE is a 1.5V AGP 4X card. It will operate in any 1.5V only or 1.5/3.3 mixed AGP slot in AGP 1X/2X/4X.
A 1.5V card will only harm the motherboard if it has a 1.5V ONLY AGP Slot. Which are only seen on boards based upon the I850 chipset so far as I'm aware.
The overwhelming majority of AGP slots on motherboards are of the universal AGP 1/2/4X 1.5V/3.3V variety and can accept either a 1.5V or 3.3V AGP card.

The last 3.3V only AGP card was the 3dfx V5 5500.

 

[BFG10K]

Just to be cautous I'd keep the clip in place unless you're using an AGP Pro card, even if you don't move your computer around a lot.

 

[GEShields]

I am receiving my P4T-E this week and I was wondering if my Leadtek WinFast GeForce2 GTS card is 1.5V/3.3 V????

are they compatible essentially??

Greg

 

[Rand]

<< I am receiving my P4T-E this week and I was wondering if my Leadtek WinFast GeForce2 GTS card is 1.5V/3.3 V????

are they compatible essentially??

Greg >>



1.5V. It will work in any AGP slot.
All cards made in the past year in a half or so are 1.5V.

 

[AndyHui]

Please read the FAQs:

What is the difference between AGP4X and AGP Pro?

AGP Card issues on i845 and i850 motherboards

In testing with the ASUS P4T-E, I have found that a non-compliant 3.3 volt AGP4X card simply causes the system to not boot as opposed to actually frying the board and card.

The ASUS P4B266 family of boards now has an LED that indicates incompatible AGP cards as well.

 

[Shalmanese]

Sigh, after 11 posts nobody has mentioned that AGP stands for Advanced Graphics Port. It is a port not a slot.

 

[pgebhard]

<< An AGP Pro slot is simply an AGP4X slot with additional power pins. There are 2 AGP Pro specifications. AGP Pro 50 means it is an AGP4X slot with 2 additional pin bays for up to 50 watts of power, while AGP Pro 150 supplies up to 150 watts of power. AGP Pro is for professional level video cards, such as the Intergraph/3Dlabs Wildcat 4220. There are currently no consumer level AGP Pro video cards. >>

From the FAQ MAN's link

This clarifies the other posts and also shows that Shalmanese is wrong (in a sense)

 

[GEShields]

Spoke with Leadtek today and they said the WinFast GeForce2 GTS/Pro is a 1.5V AND 3.3V card. It will autosense it and configure accordingly..at least that is what the tech says without going into tech jargon(to me)..

 

[rbV5]

<< It is a port not a slot. >>



it MAY be a port, but it is most definately a slot,

Take a closer look...it sure looks like a slot to me, as in.."firmly install your new video card into the AGP slot.."

That board does not an AGP Pro "slot" either, its simply the AGP retainer for your video card, handy for instance for a LAN party rig.

 

[dbal]

By the way, will a new card like the GeForce2 MX work with an old motherboard that has a 3,3volt AGP slot???

 

[Insidious]

LOL

You have to put your card into the slot to access the port

LOL