AGP running in PCI mode?

Deadtrees

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I just found out that the AGP version of my Geforce4 MX 440 has been running in PCI mode(BTW, the motherboard is Asus P4PE).
I've tried various CMOS setting thinking it has something to do it, however it doesn't fix the problem.
Does anyone know anything about this?
 

hjo3

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Er, PCI mode? That doesn't make sense.

You know the AGP slot is part of the PCI bus, right? Your card is probably running like it's supposed to.
 

AgaBoogaBoo

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benchmark it in a few programs and compare the performance. Also, is it in an AGP slot or PCI slot?
 

Deadtrees

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I realized it after installing Serious Sam. It showed me that my Geforce4MX is a PCI version. However, knowing for sure that it's an AGP version, I checked the setting of the display under Control option. It says "AGP (PCI mode).
 

hjo3

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Originally posted by: AgaBooga
benchmark it in a few programs and compare the performance. Also, is it in an AGP slot or PCI slot?
You can't fit an AGP card into a PCI slot... it's got to be in the right slot.

 

Deadtrees

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Originally posted by: hjo3
Okay, in your BIOS, what's your AGP aperature size set to?

It's set to 64mb. I have tried changing its size, but it doesn't help.
 

Deadtrees

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It seems like I'm not the only one with this problem. Upon searching it on Google, I have found more than dozens of people talking about this issue. However, nobody seems to have a solution.

BTW, could you let me know where's that "Enable Accelerated Graphics Port" option is at?
 

Deadtrees

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On RivaTuner, under "Enable Accelerated Graphics" option, it says that

AGP transfer rate : Determined by driver(this part is grayed out) : PCI
AGP side band addressing : Determined by driver(this part is grayed out) : OFF
AGP FastWrites : Determined by driver(this part is grayed out) : OFF


On the other hand,

Graphics subsystem diagnostic report says

"AGP status : disabled"



GRR!!!
 

hjo3

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Oh my. Have you tried using different drivers (perhaps an older version of Detonator)?
 

Jincuteguy

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what is agp aperture size? Mine was 64Mb but i set it to 128Mb, so the more the better? or what?
 

Lord Evermore

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AGP aperture size sets how much system memory the video card can use for texture memory if it runs out of onboard memory. This is pretty rare even with a 32MB card. However many systems run into problems if it's set too low, so the recommended setting is 128MB to 256MB (about half your total memory). There will hardly ever be any problem with this, and the memory remains fully usable by your system until the video card actually requests some of it to be used.

The AGP bus is not part of the PCI bus. The northbridge includes the AGP controller, and the AGP interface is a dedicated port, with dedicated higher bandwidth than the PCI bus, and dedicated access to system memory. The PCI bus is controlled by the southbridge.

An AGP card can be made to run in PCI mode. This pretty much means none of the capabilities of AGP are used other than the higher bus speed. AGP texturing, sideband addressing and fast writes are disabled. In many cases this wouldn't even be noticeable, the higher bus speed is really what makes AGP useful (AGP texturing was originally intended to make it possible to use video cards with less memory because it was very expensive at the time).

You may be able to fix this by installing the specific drivers for your chipset. Intel's Application Accelerator drivers should be installed since they improve hard drive performance, and the INF Update Utility is used for updating all the other chipset drivers, including the AGP controller.

The primary graphics option in the BIOS should not be causing this. That setting only tells the system whether an AGP card or a PCI card should be used as the "first" monitor, which one will display the POST screens and be designated in the OS as the primary, in case you have two cards installed or have onboard AGP video and install a PCI card.
 

Deadtrees

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I have uninstalled the driver under Safe mode, and reinstalled the OLD detonator driver. Nope, it doesn't solve the problem....Hmm.....
 

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PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!

The problem is that I trusted Windows XP more than I should have.
After applying Intel Chipset INF Update Program that came with Motherboard installation CD, it works fine!!
I thought that INF update program was for old Operating systems such as win2k, win98.
Anyway, thanks!!